4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

In fairness to Hurts, it seems like the coaches don't give him any easy solutions for pressure.  

and if they do they aren't coaching it well...how many times do you see Hurts changing the play at the LOS? I don't think he does it nearly as much as most other QBs with 3-4 years experience, idk ,maybe I just haven't watched enough of him. Most QBs are identifying the Mike, calling protection (or at least changing the play based on the OL changing/calling protection), flipping formation/plays etc...and they do it pretty regularly...

I still believe he is the right guy, just needs to right scheme, OC, QB coach...focus on the weaknesses and he is a completely different QB, especially when he plays with confidence.

5 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I like him, seems to be around the ball a lot and brings a load.

I think it's kind of hard to make a lot of informed decisions/opinions about what you have in the younger guys in the back 7 because this year PHI didn't have a typical PHI front 4 getting a lot of pressure. I mean if you have some of these younger guys in last years back seven isn't the discussion a lot different? Hard to judge young secondary talent(or lack thereof) when you aren't getting to the opposing QB quick enough IMO, it's hard to cover these new route schemes and smaller quicker receivers and backs out of the backfield beyond the initial route option.

And I get that I really do but the DL has been badly hampered by the back 7. Soft schemes and poor coverage have led to quick easy passes to wide open guys where the DL has no time to get to the QB. Whilst the DL has absolutely under performed this year I think some of that is on the secondary, in fact a lot of it (not all of it) is on the secondary.

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

We should trade Sirianni to them for their first round pick.  

 

Throw in Mariota to sweeten the deal.

52 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Time to lift the bans damn it 

Why?

3 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

They could beat the blitz sometimes if they would throw a RB screen once a century.  The middle screen against KC was very successful and we haven't seen once since.  

Yeah I don't get why they don't throw that more and throw those screens to Goedert more. They always seem to produce positive yardage so why not lean in to it a little more? Eventually a defense will need to change to stop it and then you go with something else to catch them out. But that all goes in to rhythm etc and the offensive play calling hasn't allowed for any of that.

Even if we get smoked in Tampa (maybe I should say when we get smoked), I don't see Howie and Lurie firing Nick. Firing a guy who has been to the playoffs 3 years in a row, with a Super Bowl trip, is the kind of thing that makes you start looking like David Tepper. Even if Nick deserves to be fired, I just don't see the Eagles doing it. The only way it could happen is if he resists change at the coordinator positions, but I don't see Nick standing up to Howie on that. 

Offensive Coordinator: It pains me to say this, but...I'm not convinced that they will fire Brian Johnson. If they can convince someone like Reich to come in as a senior offensive assistant, then I could see Johnson staying on with some BS about how he can grow into the job. The truth is you are married to Hurts for at least 2-3 more seasons given the contract, so if he defends Johnson, you may be stuck. If they do move off Johnson, the list of names is rather intriguing. Eric Bienemy could make sense since AR will recommend him to Lurie, and he'd bring a fresh perspective. Arthur Smith...I'd pass, but sometimes good coordinators just make bad head coaches. If you want to go younger, Tee Martin (Ravens QB coach) could make a lot of sense. Others: Brian Griese (49ers QB coach), Jerrod Johnson (Texans QB Coach), Klint Kubiak (49ers passing game coordinator). I think you have to bring in someone with fresh ideas, and I'd lean towards someone with QB coaching experience since we are tied to Hurts.

Defensive Coordinator: Well, we are clearly making a change here. I really like the idea of someone like Leslie Frazier -- former head coach, respected, solid defensive coordinator. I don't know what Ron Rivera wants to do next. Jesse Minter I think goes with Harbuagh or gets the Michigan job. Dennard Wilson likely won't come back, but I'd interview Al Harris. But I want a more experienced guy here, and Frazier fits the bill.

6 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

The bombshell report about what went wrong this season is going to be something else

I can tell you what it will be -- the players didn't want Desai fired for Patricia. Everyone assumed the players must have wanted it, but you can see based on comments that they didn't. Nick made the move without having the players on board, and the defensive guys have quit.

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

It's like 10th down the list of problems, but the RB room never, ever made any sense this year. 3 active undersized backs with redundant skill sets, not one of them can pass protect. Scott's KOR ability has all but been nullified due to the rule change.

Gainwell is decent in pass protection.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Why?

Because there are still people running around race baiting and stirring the pot. 

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Even if we get smoked in Tampa (maybe I should say when we get smoked), I don't see Howie and Lurie firing Nick. Firing a guy who has been to the playoffs 3 years in a row, with a Super Bowl trip, is the kind of thing that makes you start looking like David Tepper. Even if Nick deserves to be fired, I just don't see the Eagles doing it. The only way it could happen is if he resists change at the coordinator positions, but I don't see Nick standing up to Howie on that. 

Offensive Coordinator: It pains me to say this, but...I'm not convinced that they will fire Brian Johnson. If they can convince someone like Reich to come in as a senior offensive assistant, then I could see Johnson staying on with some BS about how he can grow into the job. The truth is you are married to Hurts for at least 2-3 more seasons given the contract, so if he defends Johnson, you may be stuck. If they do move off Johnson, the list of names is rather intriguing. Eric Bienemy could make sense since AR will recommend him to Lurie, and he'd bring a fresh perspective. Arthur Smith...I'd pass, but sometimes good coordinators just make bad head coaches. If you want to go younger, Tee Martin (Ravens QB coach) could make a lot of sense. Others: Brian Griese (49ers QB coach), Jerrod Johnson (Texans QB Coach), Klint Kubiak (49ers passing game coordinator). I think you have to bring in someone with fresh ideas, and I'd lean towards someone with QB coaching experience since we are tied to Hurts.

Defensive Coordinator: Well, we are clearly making a change here. I really like the idea of someone like Leslie Frazier -- former head coach, respected, solid defensive coordinator. I don't know what Ron Rivera wants to do next. Jesse Minter I think goes with Harbuagh or gets the Michigan job. Dennard Wilson likely won't come back, but I'd interview Al Harris. But I want a more experienced guy here, and Frazier fits the bill.

I know it has to be said but this post is so depressing the week leading up to our first playoff game.  Delete this season from your memory.

38 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Is he black?

Just now, Khani1 said:

I know it has to be said but this post is so depressing the week leading up to our first playoff game.  Delete this season from your memory.

When we went to Tampa to get smoked in 2021, I was still happy with the season and the progress so getting blown out didn't really bother me.

Not so much this time.

If the Eagles play like they have for the last month, they’ll get blown out by the Bucs.  We are talking 45+ to less than 20.

They are playing the worst football of any team in the nfl right now.

However, this level of wretched play is also unsustainable.  They ARE bad, but they are not THIS bad.  Hurts will eventually have a good game.  The pass rush will eventually have a few reps when they get home.  Do I have any confidence in it reliably happening?  Or consistently happening?  No…but for one game against a bad team, it can.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And I get that I really do but the DL has been badly hampered by the back 7. Soft schemes and poor coverage have led to quick easy passes to wide open guys where the DL has no time to get to the QB. Whilst the DL has absolutely under performed this year I think some of that is on the secondary, in fact a lot of it (not all of it) is on the secondary.

I don't disagree but how much of that is the result of playing soft zone? I mean 3rd and two and the corners are 10 -12 yards off, who does that? A good QB eats that up everytime. Combine that with moving the safety around and allowing the QB to draw players to a spot only to throw behind them where they just vacated...

It's just bad scheme and coaching IMO. PHI has signed some really good players from the SEC, these guys are coachable not just freak athletes.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I can tell you what it will be -- the players didn't want Desai fired for Patricia. Everyone assumed the players must have wanted it, but you can see based on comments that they didn't. Nick made the move without having the players on board, and the defensive guys have quit.

I believe with every fiber in my body that Siri did not make that move unilaterally.  I think there is no way that Siri didn’t get approval from the real bosses before doing it…if Lurie/Howie weren’t then driving force behind it in the first place.  
 

2 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I don't disagree but how much of that is the result of playing soft zone? I mean 3rd and two and the corners are 10 -12 yards off, who does that? A good QB eats that up everytime. Combine that with moving the safety around and allowing the QB to draw players to a spot only to throw behind them where they just vacated...

It's just bad scheme and coaching IMO. PHI has signed some really good players from the SEC, these guys are coachable not just freak athletes.

Byard was on the decline when TEN traded him. We all hoped a change in scenery was what he needed but it doesn't look that way now. Slay is still a good CB but Bradberry has fallen off a cliff. That guy has been TERRIBLE all year and isn't going to get it back now. And the rest of their secondary is pretty "meh".

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Is he black?

I don't know if you could have a whiter name than Alec Halaby 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I can tell you what it will be -- the players didn't want Desai fired for Patricia. Everyone assumed the players must have wanted it, but you can see based on comments that they didn't. Nick made the move without having the players on board, and the defensive guys have quit.

Something that I think seems a bit strange regarding this train of thought...PHI is a veteran laiden team it seems like you would go to the team leaders and talk to them and find out what kind of imoact a change like that might have on the player group overall. Either that or you need to have a better read on your locker room if the players did indeed quit on the DC...

51 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That fall off is so shocking! I mean we knew the DL wouldn’t be quite as good but those numbers are just so far off what they were last year.

That's what happens when you play off coverage constantly, and leave wide open pitch and catch throws constantly.  QBs don't have to think, don't have to hold on to the ball and can just throw it almost immediately.  AND... there's also been some regression along the DL.   Aging players and lack of replacing the ones that left.

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t get why Boston scott got $2 mil and is on this roster. He’s 28 going on 29. Can find a younger back with potential and more upside that can also play special teams for way less money. Scott isn’t worth the money. Neither was quez. Both should’ve been let go. 

I am fine with keeping Scott.  He's a serviceable back.  I think he just wasn't utilized properly at all this year.  The coaches have no idea how to rotate personnel to keep defenses guessing.  If Scott was in, it was likely he was getting the ball.  We can blame BJ for this and he's certainly complicit but most of it seems to stem from Sirianni's philosophy.  

I don’t know if the players were loyal to Desai or opposed to Patricia so much as they resent being forced to make these adjustments mid season.  They basically acknowledged they don’t know what they are doing.

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I can tell you what it will be -- the players didn't want Desai fired for Patricia. Everyone assumed the players must have wanted it, but you can see based on comments that they didn't. Nick made the move without having the players on board, and the defensive guys have quit.

That's my read about the sacking of Desai too, my only question is whether it was Sirianni or someone reached down, because I don't believe Patricia would've been here in the first place if Sirianni had a free hand, I think he was the price for getting Desai over Wilson.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Is he black?

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Byard was on the decline when TEN traded him. We all hoped a change in scenery was what he needed but it doesn't look that way now. Slay is still a good CB but Bradberry has fallen off a cliff. That guy has been TERRIBLE all year and isn't going to get it back now. And the rest of their secondary is pretty "meh".

That cliff is coming for Slay next year.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

That cliff is coming for Slay next year.

It may do yeah. He may get through a little more and he may still be pretty good next year.  He may not fall off the same cliff but may just decline. I'd say he's declined this year from last so perhaps his fall away is more gradual.