Some revisionist history about Doug going on in here lol

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Who is Doug's DC? 

 

Just now, Godfather said:

Doubtful

It’s really not that hard to get fellas.

 

Super Bowls are saved for Super Bowl caliber coaches.  Siri had his golden ticket stamped last season.  He didn’t get a 2nd one.

 

Time to get a real head coach in Philadelphia.  
 

My 2 cents. 

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Doug has 50% of the offensive line.  ZERO of the WR’s and 1/2 the TE.

 

The only thing Doug has close to our’s is QB.

 

Just stop with that nonsense right now/

 

Doug Pederson would be 15-2 with this team right now as it stands. Sad but true.

Wow you are full of crap. Doug has Ridley, kirk and zay jones at wr. one of the better units at WR in the league. And etiene is a good rb (more total yards then swift). and engram is not chop liver over there at Te. You pretend like doug has no weapons over there lol. Quit making BS excuses.

Maybe you should quit with your delusional takes

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Who is Doug's DC? 

Jesus Christ himself. Gonna turn water into wine and defense is gonna walk on water baby! 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wow you are full of crap. Doug has Ridley, kirk and zay jones at wr. one of the better units at WR in the league. And etiene is a good rb (more total yards then swift). and engram is not chop liver over there at Te. You pretend like doug has no weapons over there lol. Quit making BS excuses.

Maybe you should quit with your delusional takes

There is no comparison between AJ Brown, Devonta Smith and Dallas Goedert to the guys you mentioned.  Try again. Don’t get laughed at this time.  I’ll add Swift to the mix.

 

Mic drop. 

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

It’s really not that hard to get fellas.

 

Super Bowls are saved for Super Bowl caliber coaches.  Siri had his golden ticket stamped last season.  He didn’t get a 2nd one.

 

Time to get a real head coach in Philadelphia.  
 

My 2 cents. 

Doug caught lighting in a bottle

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

Doug caught lighting in a bottle

Seems Sirianni did too.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Seems Sirianni did too.

Both had qbs with really good seasons and then sucked d the following season

We're all handling the losing really well

13 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Beautiful 

He would

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

There is no comparison between AJ Brown, Devonta Smith and Dallas Goedert to the guys you mentioned.  Try again. Don’t get laughed at this time.  I’ll add Swift to the mix.

 

Mic drop. 

Etiene had 1008 yards rushing than swift 1049 meanwhile etiene had 476 yards receiving to swift’s 214 statically this year. 

Engram was better than goedert this year and last year statically. Engram had 114 receptions 963 yards and 4 tds.

again you pretend like the jaguars are poverty level talent at Wr, RB and TE. That’s furthest thing from the truth. 

Doug has been a slightly above average coach outside of 2017. outside of 2017 doug is 47-50-1 as a head coach. But hey 2017 is clearly not the outlier all 4 of his 9-7 or 9-8 seasons are the outlier. 

let me be you MiC dRoP (<—- dumb when you and other revert to using childish BS)

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Etiene had 1008 yards rushing than swift 1049 meanwhile etiene had 476 yards receiving to swift’s 214 statically this year. 

Engram was better than goedert this year and last year statically. Engram had 114 receptions 963 yards and 4 tds.

Doug has been a slightly above average coach outside of 2017. outside of 2017 doug is 47-50-1 as a head coach. But hey 2017 is clearly not the outlier all 4 of his 9-7 or 9-8 seasons are the outlier. 

He's a JAG just like QB1

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We're all handling the losing really well

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Criticism is not hate. Let me repeat that. Criticism is NOT hate. Wanting your $250 million QB to play better is not hate. Suggesting that Hurts might have regressed is not hate. 

You don't think 15 INTs and 9 fumbles is a bad thing? You realize that most of us who questioned Hurts in 2021, who never hated him, but questioned if he was the guy, ate crow and admitted he was the guy last year. Most, if not all of us gave Hurts all the credit where credit was due. 

Hurts was good this year, but he's also been a problem and it's OK to say it. He has flaws in his game that he needs to fix. 

 

This is hate, not criticism: "Everyone can slob all over Hurts but can't say one negative thing about him. He's a big reason why they are the worst team in football." 

 

The defense refuses to stop anyone at all.  They have completely lost the ability to play defense.  That is THE reason why they are the worst team in football right now.  Are there contributing factors to that reason (Roseman, the players, the hiring of Desai, Sirianni for the the panic move firing of Desai and promoting Patricia, and Patricia himself) but Hurts is not one of them for that reason as to why we are the worst team in football right now. 

 

Offense hasn't been what it was but it's still a top ranked offense in the league.  Hurts has done a whole lot more good than bad this season.  He was one of the major reasons this team started 10-1 again.  Does he have more turnovers?  Yes, and he gets some blame for that but the whole team is turning over the ball on offense.  Not just him.  The whole offense is committing stupid penalties.   The whole offense is making dumb bad plays at times.  Coaching is the issue above all else.  It's become predictable and the coaching staff hasn't adjusted.  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Etiene had 1008 yards rushing than swift 1049 meanwhile etiene had 476 yards receiving to swift’s 214 statically this year. 

Engram was better than goedert this year and last year statically. Engram had 114 receptions 963 yards and 4 tds.

Doug has been a slightly above average coach outside of 2017. outside of 2017 doug is 47-50-1 as a head coach. But hey 2017 is clearly not the outlier all 4 of his 9-7 or 9-8 seasons are the outlier. 

Be honest with yourself.

 

Who do you feel is a better offensive mind?

Who is a better head coach? 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Be honest with yourself.

 

Who do you feel is a better offensive mind?

Who is a better head coach? 

Bill Walsh.

Vince Lombardi.

 

 

Glad I could be honest.   I feel better.

Listening to Brandon Graham on his weekly show

"We don't make excuses. But we aren't going to let that (yesterday) happen again."

 

Very convincing 

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Seems Sirianni did too.

Don’t disagree. That’s what it looks like right now. but doug apparently can turn water into wine and walk on water. And all the convos we had his last two years never existed cause Doug’s is the most flawless coach of all time. 

8 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Both had qbs with really good seasons and then sucked d the following season

And both lost their offensive coordinator late in the off-season.

I think we are undervaluing how much it hurts a team to lose their coordinators after a SB and need to go dumpster diving to find a body.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I've been away on a vacation for a week. Saw the score and the injury list.

What else did I miss other than apparent doom😅

Quez was unstoppable!

25 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Be honest with yourself.

 

Who do you feel is a better offensive mind?

Who is a better head coach? 

Both are slightly above average coaches that likely hit lightning in a bottle in 2017 and 2022. Very likely never reach those heights again. I think both are outlier years. They are closer to what the other seasons around it are and so far proved that  

I don’t want either one of them. I don’t think either one is all that creative with their offense, don’t use motion and lack of understanding of using their personnel correctly (you and i discussed this multiples in 2019 and again as the eagles played poorly and eventually fired doug in 2020). I think both are going to prove out to be slightly above average coaches in the long run. Frankly i think sirianni is gonna get fired after 2024 (maybe this year depending on how they look in tampa) and Doug isn’t far behind him with how the jags season played out losing 5 of his last 6. They should’ve beaten cincy, titans and Bucs (favorites in every one of those games with the better Qb)

this is exact thing I told you when Doug got fired. I said he’s going to get a job somewhere else. He’s going to have a head coaching career similar to what he was in 2016, 2018 and 2019. I thought 2017 was an outlier for him and I thought 2020 was an outlier for him. So far he’s been exactly what I told you he was. 18-16 and 1-1 playoff. Doug in those 3 years i mentioned 25-23 and 1-2 in the playoffs.

 

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

This is hate, not criticism: "Everyone can slob all over Hurts but can't say one negative thing about him. He's a big reason why they are the worst team in football." 

 

The defense refuses to stop anyone at all.  They have completely lost the ability to play defense.  That is THE reason why they are the worst team in football right now.  Are there contributing factors to that reason (Roseman, the players, the hiring of Desai, Sirianni for the the panic move firing of Desai and promoting Patricia, and Patricia himself) but Hurts is not one of them for that reason as to why we are the worst team in football right now. 

 

Offense hasn't been what it was but it's still a top ranked offense in the league.  Hurts has done a whole lot more good than bad this season.  He was one of the major reasons this team started 10-1 again.  Does he have more turnovers?  Yes, and he gets some blame for that but the whole team is turning over the ball on offense.  Not just him.  The whole offense is committing stupid penalties.   The whole offense is making dumb bad plays at times.  Coaching is the issue above all else.  It's become predictable and the coaching staff hasn't adjusted.  

I don't disagree with anything else you said. That's a different discussion, one we have all had on here. There are issues all over this team. I'm simply stating that saying Hurts has been a problem, which he has been, is not hate. 

And my initial statement that you quoted is not hate either. Simply stating that it seems like you aren't allowed to say something negative about him. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t disagree. That’s what it looks like right now. but doug apparently can turn water into wine and walk on water. And all the convos we had his last two years never existed cause Doug’s is the most flawless coach of all time. 

There's a bit of a hyperbolic straw man being applied here.  Both have followed a weirdly symmetrical career HC path.   Doug's 2018 season was a better feeling season than 2023, though both were far from being storybook encores to a Super Bowl appearance.

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

This is hate, not criticism: "Everyone can slob all over Hurts but can't say one negative thing about him. He's a big reason why they are the worst team in football." 

 

The defense refuses to stop anyone at all.  They have completely lost the ability to play defense.  That is THE reason why they are the worst team in football right now.  Are there contributing factors to that reason (Roseman, the players, the hiring of Desai, Sirianni for the the panic move firing of Desai and promoting Patricia, and Patricia himself) but Hurts is not one of them for that reason as to why we are the worst team in football right now. 

 

Offense hasn't been what it was but it's still a top ranked offense in the league.  Hurts has done a whole lot more good than bad this season.  He was one of the major reasons this team started 10-1 again.  Does he have more turnovers?  Yes, and he gets some blame for that but the whole team is turning over the ball on offense.  Not just him.  The whole offense is committing stupid penalties.   The whole offense is making dumb bad plays at times.  Coaching is the issue above all else.  It's become predictable and the coaching staff hasn't adjusted.  

I didn't really want to jump in on this but I'm curious if you're able to admit that Hurts has regressed this year

7 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

And both lost their offensive coordinator late in the off-season.

I think we are undervaluing how much it hurts a team to lose their coordinators after a SB and need to go dumpster diving to find a body.

Especially when the HC can't stand on his own

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There's a bit of a hyperbolic straw man being applied here.  Both have followed a weirdly symmetrical career HC path.   Doug's 2018 season was a better feeling season than 2023, though both were far from being storybook encores to a Super Bowl appearance.

Oh the eagles in 2023 managed to take 2018-2020 eagles and put all into one year. Like the fast forwarded 3 years into one season.