Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Give me a rundown for the Las Vegas Raiders. Curious about something.

 

Thanks 

They suck.

Done.

17 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The first, and primary, goal is to bring in a very experienced DC. Leslie Frazier and Wink Martindale top the list for me (assuming Eberflus keeps his job). If Mayo is cut loose in New England, he's another guy to add to the list. I think you have to follow the Schwartz/Pederson model and have basically a head coach for the defense. 

On offense, I'd prefer we move on from Johnson as a play caller, but I'm not sure they'll want to dump both coordinators in a single offseason. If they go the "senior adviser" route, Reich is the obvious name if he wants to keep coaching. Gruden is an interesting name, but he seems ticketed to New Orleans. If we were going to get a new OC, Kellen Moore, Eric Bienemy, Tee Martin are all names to consider.

Bieniemy rubbed a lot of DC players the wrong way. Why Riverboat Ron was never fired and him giving a shot, players didn't like him. I think he is done getting jobs and back to Reid

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a good question.   The answer is to not be a complete and total embarrassment over a 6 week span of time.   This team has looked completely rutterless for the better part of 2 months.   That's a pretty bad indictment on the 'leader' of the team.   

 

BTW... I'd be fine with Howie being relegated back to the closet.   He doesn't get to hide from his missteps either.  His roster construction, especially defensively, is criminally incompetent.  

I’m with this too. The fact we’ve had basically sweat, maddox and mills who were drafted out produce their draft position since 2016 is really bad (love Carter but he’s year one so it looks promising but who knows how his career off the field goes). I hate when people say he identified guys like poyer. Great but he didn’t identify him as a safety. He left and browns and Buffalo did that and developed him. He thought he’d be a corner. He wasn’t. Douglas failed here cause of the system and style we had him play in. Packers and now Buffalo figured out how to use him better and refine him. 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

I really don't think there's anything Nick can do to get fired after this season. Even if they are blown out in Tampa, I think Howie and Lurie will be loathe to fire him -- 3 of 3 years in the playoffs, a Super Bowl trip...to outside candidates, you start to look like an unstable organization that has no patience. A top flight candidate (Vrabel, Belichick, Ben Johnson, etc.) isn't going to sign up for a job where Nick's resume gets you canned after 3 years.

I'm not so sure.  The one thing Nick couldn't do (outside of publicly criticizing Lurie) is to completely lose control of the team and locker room to the point where they don't even show up over several critical games at the end of the season when it really mattered.  I think if we see a game in TB like the Arizona and NYG games then he's gone.

Siri gets clapped if we take an L

Has to be done 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Give me a rundown for the Las Vegas Raiders. Curious about something.

 

Thanks 

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

LOL - all good. I find the value allocation of salary cap dollars to be fascinating. It's all basically value investing.

Yup.  I don't know an X from an O but I enjoy the game and love the FO aspect.  Hell, I made the analogy how borrowing from future space is like getting a mortgage with a low interest rate for "cheap money" long before Howie did (and how you DON'T want to mortgage yourself up to the absolute hilt) 

 

But like the govt, the league keeps changing the rules every few years  

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a good point.   The answer is to not be a complete and total embarrassment over a 6+ week span of time.   This team has looked completely rudderless for the better part of 2 months.   That's a pretty bad indictment on the 'leader' of the team.   

 

BTW... I'd be fine with Howie being relegated back to the closet.   He doesn't get to hide from his missteps either.  His roster construction, especially defensively, is criminally incompetent.  

Why does Howie survive? Because he finally brought in talent on offense even though the coaches he hired are incompetent? Is it because of the lightening in a bottle that was 7 years ago that won the SB? How long can he hold onto the Lombardi and keep his job?

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Give me a rundown for the Las Vegas Raiders. Curious about something.

 

Thanks 

Like you don't know all the cap rules  

 

(yes, I know that was a joke, nerds)

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd be in favor of it.   I'd love to have a defense on the field again that actually has the ability to stop opponents.  Funny thing about defenses... they seem to be rather impervious to massive fluctuations in performance, they are, by and large, consistent.  At home, on the road, good weather, bad weather, dome, outside... if you have a great defense, none of that matters.   AND, if you have a great defense, your margin for error on the offensive side of the ball goes WAY up.   Just look at the Browns this year with Schwartz.  That defense carried them to 11 wins.  They had FOUR starting QBs, and it frankly mattered very little.  They soldiered on despite that and just kept winning.  They could have gotten to 12 wins had that last game mattered to them at all.  But, their playoff seeding was locked in, so taking the "bye" week early made a ton of sense for them.   

 

I miss the days where the defense was feared by opponents coming in to play the Eagles.  Now it is a laughingstock, and the defense scares the fans more than the opponent.  

Absolutely agree with this, especially the last part. To me, it was always the defense that put that hard nosed Philly mentality on the field. Sure, offense was fun to watch, but I just loved seeing the other team’s offense doing nothing and getting popped in the mouth. Even if they ended up losing, I still would feel ok because they didn’t let the other team just walz all over them.

 

The team desperately needs change. Howie got us a SB, but he also needs to be held accountable for this crapshow of a defense. 
 

I think Sirianni‘s fate will be determined on how they perform in the playoffs. If we get smoked and embarrassed at TB, then he is most likely gone IMO. That would be a good time to pull the trigger and I don’t think other coaches would be afraid to come here in that scenario. 
If they happen to beat TB or lose closely, then he probably stays.

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a good point.   The answer is to not be a complete and total embarrassment over a 6+ week span of time.   This team has looked completely rudderless for the better part of 2 months.   That's a pretty bad indictment on the 'leader' of the team.   

 

BTW... I'd be fine with Howie being relegated back to the closet.   He doesn't get to hide from his missteps either.  His roster construction, especially defensively, is criminally incompetent.  

Same with managing the roster during the season. 

3 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

Absolutely agree with this, especially the last part. To me, it was always the defense that put that hard nosed Philly mentality on the field. Sure, offense was fun to watch, but I just loved seeing the other team’s offense doing nothing and getting popped in the mouth. Even if they ended up losing, I still would feel ok because they didn’t let the other team just walz all over them.

 

The team desperately needs change. Howie got us a SB, but he also needs to be held accountable for this crapshow of a defense. 
 

I think Sirianni‘s fate will be determined on how they perform in the playoffs. If we get smoked and embarrassed at TB, then he is most likely gone IMO. That would be a good time to pull the trigger and I don’t think other coaches would be afraid to come here in that scenario. 
If they happen to beat TB or lose closely, then he probably stays.

The only thing that'll scare new coaches off will be how involved the suits are in offensive and defensive philosophy, hopefully Lowie can let the chefs cook

2 minutes ago, paco said:

Here is what you are looking at with Dak

2024 breakdown
Base	$29,000,000
Prorated Bonus	$25,455,000
Roster Bonus	$5,000,000
Total Cap	$59,455,000
2025 Dead Cap hit	$36,460,000

 

First, the 2025 dead cap hit is if nothing happens and he walks in 2025.  It's a roll up of two years of prorated bonuses

2025	$25,455,000
2026	$11,005,000

 

Second, without me fully understanding his contract, I would GUESS that there is nothing that can be done about the 2024 bonuses.  They might be able to turn the $5 million roster bonus into a signing bonus and prorate that, but you are likely stuck with the 25.455 million prorated bonus. 

 

I would also assume that if you extend and push out the contract to lower his 2024 cap hit, I would guess the 59 mil can get down to around 30 mil for 2024.  But again, I put no thought\research into this so I may be way off.  Will be interested to see what happens.

 

Also, if you do an extension, 2025 will be whatever the Base is + existing prorated Bonus + new prorated bonus from 2024.  2026 is hard to say because it would depend if it is a 1 year or multi year extension.

Typically multi-year is what Jerry would do, he has already said he realizes the extension will cost a truckload and he has positioned himself to have no reservation making it happen...at least they started adding voidable years to contracts. DAL in years past didn't manage the cap nearly as well as PHI, probably still doesn't. They have improved to a degree though. 

Problem is Cee Dee has already said he wants to be paid top dollar at receiver and that has to happen this offseason, Micah has to be paid next year. Micah might likely get tagged unless they work out some really long term deal, which might be smart. My only issue really is it seems as players get these high dollar contracts they end up producing less or getting hurt, Zeke & D-Law come to mind, D-Law is playing well this year but after he got his big contract initially he got hurt and it took him a while to get back to form.

With the way Dak has produced this year he deserves to be paid with some of the high dollar top QBs, but can he win a big game...so far, NO. I would like to see him play this contract out and void if he does not start winning in January...this January, like now.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Why does Howie survive? Because he finally brought in talent on offense even though the coaches he hired are incompetent? Is it because of the lightening in a bottle that was 7 years ago that won the SB? How long can he hold onto the Lombardi and keep his job?

Getting to a second Super Bowl and finding hurts is going to give him more time. The reason behind getting hurts was they needed a backup Qb to wentz cause he got hurt every year who was a cheap and yet still paid him the contract they did. I said the day they drafted him, i believe they knew they could get out of wentz’s contract with less damage after 2021 and wanted to have a plan in place in case they made that decision. I don’t think they thought it would erode as fast as it did

1 hour ago, rrfierce said:

lol, anyone could see that just simply wasn’t going to happen 

They won the division though, so well done cheering them on 

 

Hey nitwit, they would have won the division eventful they lost to the Lions with how it all played out.  Ho sniff some more glue you low life.

1 hour ago, Joe Ball said:

As an outsider, I think he is...more experience as a player and a coach

He may have more experience as a player but Nick has 20 years of experience coaching with 14 years in the NFL. Vrabel doesn't have that level of coaching experience.    He's not an offensive minded coach and has played too conservative.  

I wouldn’t have Carson in the top 5 of this list. Al horford and James harden accomplished way less and way more hated in my eyes 

 

The gate played better defense then jaguars did on Sunday 

37 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Bieniemy rubbed a lot of DC players the wrong way. Why Riverboat Ron was never fired and him giving a shot, players didn't like him. I think he is done getting jobs and back to Reid

He allegedly rubbed them the wrong way because of his intensity.  I don't think we heard other complaints.  I don't think we want him here as the Commanders led the League in passing attempts and were last in rushing attempts.  

39 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Siri gets clapped if we take an L

Has to be done 

Ugh.  I wouldn’t wish the clap on anyone.  Yuck. 
 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The gate played better defense then jaguars did on Sunday 

Well, I guess we’re not the craziest fanbase after all. 😳

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t have Carson in the top 5 of this list. Al horford and James harden accomplished way less and way more hated in my eyes 

 

That list is terrible.  No one cares about Byron Maxwell.  Where is JD Drew? 

25 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Away from Prescott, Dallas has some interesting decisions to make. 

Zach Martin -- $28.5mmm cap hit in 2024, which is the last year of his deal. He basically has to get extended or at least restructured. Cutting him would be ~$41mm dead cap (pre-6/1), so no way he is cut (post 6/1 there is 0 cap savings). But how do you extend a guy who is 34 with that many miles on his tires? He's still all-pro caliber and would get big money as a FA -- gotta think they give him a big extension, but Jerry was reluctant this past offseason. Kinda fascinating.

DeMarcus Lawrence -- over $20mm cap hit in the last year of his deal. Save $10mm if post 6/1 release, no savings otherwise. I could see them making him play out this last year, TBH. Not sure I'd give him big money at 32.

Tyron Smith -- have to think they let him walk

CeeDee Lamb -- $18mm cap hit on the 5th year option. Really messed up not doing a long term deal before the season, now he has balled out. Have to do a big money extension.

Micah Parsons -- going to be the highest paid defensive player of all time

Trevon Diggs -- big cap number, but given the injury, you can't restructure

Michael Gallup -- $13mm cap hit, small savings pre June 1. Maybe a post June 1 cut. 

Gallup will be gone...4.5 mil dead money to save 9m as a post June 1 cut

Smith, will likely resign on a games/snaps played contract since he has been hurt a lot through the years if they can agree on a price. That's what they did this year with him and it's actually worked out so far.

D-Law will not get another large contract from DAL I wouldn't think, I don't think they can afford him.

Martin is the key, very interesting to see what happens there.

At the end of the day as long as long they sign Cee Dee and Micah, and possibly Dak depending on how he plays this postseason I'll be happy. As far as the 2024 cap goes they're 20 million over but have 48 players under contract already...they aren't in cap hell but if they aren't careful they could make it very difficult on themselves moving forward. The only saving grace really is they don't have a lot of dead money. 

Priority FA's imo are: Biadasz, Tyron, Hankins, J Lewis, and Dowdle...

Last years draft was not great imo. Schoonmaker was an unneccessary pick at #2, Mazi Smith @ #1 was a reach to help the run defense, Deuce Vaughn, cool story but a wasted pick...the one thing DAL is usually very good at is finding undrafted rookies that can contribute.

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

The biggest issues with a new coach are:

1. Is he willing to be a puppet for Lowie?

2. Does he believe in Howie's ability to bring in talent?

3. Does he believe in Jalen Hurts?

3. Will Lurie hand him a long/lucrative contract to mitigate the risk of getting fired quickly?

Based on that I wouldn't expect us to land any of the "hot" candidates, just like the last 2 coaching searches.

Any new candidates might also look at the last few coaches........

Chip Kelly.....not quite 3 seasons.

Doug.........5 years, multiple playoff appearances and a SB.

Sirianni..........3 years (assuming they can him, which i don't think they do) playoffs every year and a SB appearance.

Any candidate would have to think unless we're absolutely perfect and dominant I probably won't last more than 3, 4 years.

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Just look at the Browns this year with Schwartz.  That defense carried them to 11 wins.  They had FOUR starting QBs, and it frankly mattered very little.

Very good defense, but "carried" might be a bit of a stretch given that their offense finished top-10 in pts scored while their defense finished just 13th in pts allowed. Flacco has been on a tear while their defense has seemed to have regressed a bit. A better example of a defense carrying their team into the playoffs would be the Steelers or maybe the Bucs.