19 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Regardless what our seeding ends up being, it’d be great if we’re locked in before the final game so no one important has to play on the MetLife Stadium turf for a second time this year. 

If that week 18 game doesn’t matter I hope the offense is solely just WR screens every play. I just want to see what the result would be running like 40+ WR screens consistently 

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

 

 

That defense had their way with our offensive line like I haven't seen in years.

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a tough comparison.   There were some greats to be used to pull.   Back in the day, Guy McIntyre was absolutely a stud pulling... (not great at all the other things though, so not in the HOF).   Dermonti Dawson was great from the center position as well.  Jerry Kramer gets a shout out, because without him, the Packers' sweep isn't what it was.  And you can't have this conversation without mentioning John Hannah.   If you want to have fun.  Just watch some Hannah highlights.   He didn't just pull... he pulled and punished people.

 

No doubt that Kelce is a central figure in the conversation though.

Feel like they weren't quite as nimble and consistent in space as Kelce though. Maybe Kramer was, not sure, but Kelce is just a clinician and a joy to watch play the position. Like JR mentioned last night, he is like a FB but even better because of how versatile he is. 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Revisionist History on Reid.   He NEEDED to go, it was the best thing for him and for the Eagles. He was burned out here. I mean it's like you forget all the stupid stuff he did the last 3 years he was here. He would have never won a SB here. 

I couldn't disagree with this more.

THE MOTHERFING HAY IS IN THE BARN!

We’ve done everything except win the SB over the last two years but one new thing from last night was getting a huge away W against a really good team. You could say the Lions from last year but it was week 1 and the Lions weren’t there at that point. We get one or two more in this current stretch and it would be nice to win at least one of those. 

We saw this clutch gene show up in almost all of the losses his first season as starter in 2021.  Defense just wasn't holding up their end at that time.  But the blog yelled at me, called me names and said this was nothing more than garbage time and Hurts was Tim Tebow and Eagles needed to move on from him for anyone.

 

 

 

 

I still can’t believe Reid punted from their own 39. It’s baffling to see how so many teams coach so gutless against this team. 

3 hours ago, Eagles_ftw said:

Speaking of the Commanders games, a lot of people ragging on Howell and saying the Eagles made him look like an MVP, but tbh the guy is still leading the NFL in passing yards and is 8th in passing TDs. The guy is surprisingly a lot better than people are giving him credit for.  

He looked mediocre at best in his one start last year.  I wonder how much the improvement is having a full preseason as the starter vs how much it is EB the OC.

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Feel like they weren't quite as nimble and consistent in space as Kelce though. Maybe Kramer was, not sure, but Kelce is just a clinician and a joy to watch play the position. Like JR mentioned last night, he is like a FB but even better because of how versatile he is. 

I don't disagree, but the average player wasn't as nimble back then either, so those guys were blocking less nimble defenders and so were just as effective...   just so hard to compare different eras even amongst OL, which you would think would be easier than others, but its still very different.

Jerry Kramer was only 245lbs...  meanwhile, the RBs he was blocking for were both 215lb (Taylor and Hornung).   So, only 30 lbs different.  
Kelce is listed at 295lbs... but blocking for RBs that are smaller than those from the Packers hey-day.  (Scott and Gainwell are 200 lbs.  Swift is listed at 215.)

Hannah falls in the middle... he was listed at 265.

 

I think its safe to say that Kelce is easily the most athletic, lb for lb, given that he's so much bigger than these other guys (which is crazy to say, because he's always been considered 'small' for today's game).  But, when it comes to comparing eras, you have to compare their effectiveness against their contemporaries, and guys who had access to the same training, nutrition, etc.  Kelce easily gets the nod for this generation... which automatically puts him in the conversation with the all-time greats... but I just don't see a way to do a fair comparison across eras.

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

We’ve done everything except win the SB over the last two years but one new thing from last night was getting a huge away W against a really good team. You could say the Lions from last year but it was week 1 and the Lions weren’t there at that point. We get one or two more in this current stretch and it would be nice to win at least one of those. 

The Lions were not a 'really good team' last year.  They were an ascending team, but even as so, didn't even get into the playoff tournament.  Hard to define them as really good while 7 other teams make the playoffs over them, including a 9-8 team.

11 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

THE MOTHERFING HAY IS IN THE BARN!

Me if I were in that huddle after he said that:

3 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

He’s right 

Assuming he is speaking in general, I guess it depends if the QB was down or not.  I don't like the idea of IG counting as a sack if the QB is not down prior to the pass, which is 95% of grounding calls

3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I still can't believe we won that game

Not going to lie, I gave up and accepted our fate at halftime.  When schmoopie said early in the 3rd the rally was on I did NOT believe her  

1 hour ago, paco said:

I'm guess @Joe Ball is actually from Dallas.  Their fans down there are more in line with him than the ones up here.

Yeh, I am 30 minutes east of downtown Dallas, grew up here, used to be farm country but we are getting covered up with developments. I've been through Philadelphia for work a few times, used to spend a lot of time in New Cumberland/Mechanicsburg. I love the country side between Virginia and Harrisburg along 83.

As far as fans here go, it's hit or miss. I bleed blue, just like you guys bleed green, always been that way. At the same time I consider myself to be an objectionable fan of the game and there a lot of folks down here like that because football is just everything down here from the time you can walk/run...Some fans are over the top, most of those types never played organized ball and just don't get it...they are the talkers.

I follow all levels from HS through Pros, and if there is a stud RB, QB, WR in a local junior high I will check them out given the opportunity.

I coached ages 8 - 12 for several years when my boys were younger. I don't do it anymore, but it was fun teaching 3rd &4th graders the spread and throwing the ball 50% of the time...our kids could run and catch, the kids we were playing were lucky to get lined up properly...lol.

Do I hate the Eagles? Nah, I dislike them when they play the Cowboys though...😂. I have a way I follow teams of any sport.

1. Teams I am a fan of, if they are out of the playoffs then
2. Teams in the same district/conference as "my" teams, if they are out of the playoffs then 
3. a) Teams in Texas OR b) Underdogs & Teams that have never won a title, I typically lean to the underdogs, I love a good David beats Goliath game.

OK, having said all that I cannot stand the 49'ers, and if they are in the SB I will root for the AFC...if it's the Eagles? I will pull for you guys. Weird huh?

Sorry for the long post, really I could have just said I appreciate good football...but now you guys have something to give me a hard time about.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I'm going to take Harris in ALL my dailys this weekend. He's about to get fed  

25 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I couldn't disagree with this more.

When the whole reid firing went down, I was one of the few people that said, I actually think it’s not crazy to keep reid as he didn’t forget how to coach and there were other issues internally with this organization. also if you believed that Nick Foles could be your franchise quarterback, reid was the best guy to help him get there. Might not be a better guy to help get him them (not saying foles was just that if you believed he could be). But I also understood with everything that was going on off the field with his family, how the last two seasons had played out, and then the whole power struggle that got leaked out that they were going to make the move.

two thoughts on if they did keep reid: first if you kept Andy Reid, would Howie Roseman still be here? I don’t think you would have both of them. Howie wants to be the architect and don’t think andy would’ve just conceded that based on some of the stuff that leaked and how some situations played out. I think I think it would’ve come to ahead that you probably would’ve lost Howie Roseman or Andy Reid at some point. Second not sure we get mahomes in Philly if reid stays. Love andy unless he is playing us, but i think (before this year) mahomes is so great and so good that he can mask some of the issues reid couldn’t overcome when mcnabb was here. Imo Reid is a top 5 coach of all time and best coach in eagles history, but he has his flaws. Prior to this year, i think mahomes’ greatness could cover a lot of those up. 

off topic a little, but this 2023 chiefs team reminds me a lot of the 2002 eagles team. Mcnabb (was good) in his prime so is mahomes (is definitely better). Both had really good defenses. I’d argue that was Reid’s best defense of his tenure. It was statistically. KC has a better TE but eagles had Lewis who was good and pro bowler that year.  Olines are both really good. running game with Pacheco that reminds me somewhat of Duce. The issue was the WRs caught up to the eagles when they got to the best of the best. Those KC WRs last night felt like i was watching thrash, pinkston and Mitchell. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I still can’t believe Reid punted from their own 39. It’s baffling to see how so many teams coach so gutless against this team. 

It was from OUR 39, for a net of 20 yards. Soooooo F'ing dumb.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I still can’t believe Reid punted from their own 39. It’s baffling to see how so many teams coach so gutless against this team. 

Yup. I said during the game thankfully we are playing reid and not doug. Cause if we are playing doug then he goes for it and it could’ve really changed the game. 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Revisionist History on Reid.   He NEEDED to go, it was the best thing for him and for the Eagles. He was burned out here. I mean it's like you forget all the stupid stuff he did the last 3 years he was here. He would have never won a SB here. 

More checked out, Reid at the end or Peterson here

 

3 minutes ago, paco said:

I'm going to take Harris in ALL my dailys this weekend. He's about to get fed  

Idk kind of feeling like Warren is beginning to emerge. Frankly they might have wanted to give Warren more touches earlier this year. He was about the only useful part of that offense sunday. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It was from OUR 39, for a net of 20 yards. Soooooo F'ing dumb.

Good catch. Coffee hasn’t kicked in yet

8 minutes ago, paco said:

Assuming he is speaking in general, I guess it depends if the QB was down or not.  I don't like the idea of IG counting as a sack if the QB is not down prior to the pass, which is 95% of grounding calls

lolwut?

If he's down prior to the pass, then it's not grounding at all, it's a sack.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who has been saying that?  Johnson has been under scrutiny since week 1 and the poor RZ performances.  It has gotten better, ironically as Hurts got more banged up and they couldn't rely on him to run as much.   We need to go back to that and use Hurts' legs by design far less frequently.

Who? Come on now, you're in here enough to see the bj apologists.

A couple weeks ago there were a bunch of  tweets by various media  showing eagles being top 5 in yards and points in an effort to justify BJ.

It was talked about on here, and i remember some agreeing with the premise.

I remember thinking maybe im just getting caught up in the negaldelphia mentality and hes not as bad as everyone and I think ???

Last nights playcalling quelled any of that for me 

Two runs then a qb draw on the first drive, then repeated that sequence later in the game. Thats bad 

3 straight pass plays after a turnover. Bad

The 2 WR screens in a row to opposite sides of the field. Horrid

A  failed weird delay handoff from shotgun on 3rd and 1. Stupid

Running a TE dumpoff on 2nd and 17. Dumb

Cant remember exactly the wasted play on  3rd and 22 want to say it was another qb draw, either way i remember it being a horrible call.

Bad

The continual insertion of gainwell when swift is playing well,  idiotiot

The lack of pre snap motion or any creativity or anything that confuses a D. Uninspiring

Having a 4 play tecmo bowl running game...

😒

Watching Kelce shake his head multiple times a game...☹️

Given the eagles talent on O it looks way harder than it should be every week.

Sure some is on the players execution, and its the o coordinators job to put those guys in position to execute and be successful and far too often in my opinion BJ sets them up to fail with his idiotic play calling and alot of times out of shear talent the eagles O overcome a bad play call.

BJ needs to be better 

 

 

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Good catch. Coffee hasn’t kicked in yet

I think it's got to be the dumbest NFL coaching decision I still see made fairly regularly. Kicking FGs from 4th and goal from the 2 or 3 yd line used to be it, but teams finally caught on there after years of settling for FGs. I still see that on occasion, but punting from midfield still happens like every week it seems. I honestly don't get it.