3 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

I’m sure it is too soon to try to be rational, but I’m not in the "fire Nick” camp. 
 

the other coordinators? Absolutely  especially on offense because they had the horses to be far better than they were  and coaching clearly has to make Hurts better  

That defense though - they clearly didn’t have the horses - and probably also the coaching. Howie owns the abomination of the middle of the D.  He gambled on the O carrying this team this season as they transitioned and they didn’t. 
 

yeah, Nick owns his share and has a very short leash but I don’t think he should be gone. 

What does Nick bring? If he lost the team the last 3rd of the season and this is how they showed up in playoffs, how can you bring him back? He’s not an Xs & Os guy. Can’t call plays. Only value is rah rah BS when things are going well. He’s getting canned along with the others.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Hurts needs to take blame. Stop using bulletin board material for motivation. Last year it was the phone screen, the year before that he took offense to people saying he couldn’t pass.

Put your head down and get to work and be better. But stop with the Daggone metaphors and quotes, get rid of that BS and go to work. 

Just now, purplefiggy said:

I’m sure it is too soon to try to be rational, but I’m not in the "fire Nick” camp. 
 

the other coordinators? Absolutely  especially on offense because they had the horses to be far better than they were  and coaching clearly has to make Hurts better  

That defense though - they clearly didn’t have the horses - and probably also the coaching. Howie owns the abomination of the middle of the D.  He gambled on the O carrying this team this season as they transitioned and they didn’t. 
 

yeah, Nick owns his share and has a very short leash but I don’t think he should be gone. 

Agreed with all of this.

Where Howie hit on his FA signings in 2022, he missed badly this year.  They saw too late what a disaster LB was and signed both Cunningham and **** the street right before the season.  Bad, bad omen.  Cunningham was a partial hit, Jack and Morrow were both terrible and we were stuck with Morrow.  
 

Losing CJGJ and keeping Bradberry absolutely blew up in Howie’s face.  Anyone with an inkling of how Bradberry would play would have paid CJGJ.  Safeties and LB were both void of talent, and Bradberry really let the entire D down.

10 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Here we go:

Ravens win Super Bowl.

Eagles poach OC Todd Monken.

Thoughts?

Monken is the guy I want. He will run the ball and he did a great job with Lamar when he was sliding south. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He was at the time, the highest paid QB in the league. That brings expectations and raises the bar. 

No doubt.

This team has a lot of problems, and it starts with coaching.  Tonight you saw Jurgens make the same exact penalty twice, Mailata with false starts.  This season a lot of players regressed and made dumb mistakes.

Hurts takes blame and has to play better.  He made bad decisions and bad plays at times, other times he made great plays and accurate throws (despite people not wanting to admit that).

He needs to do better.  I want to see him with better coaching like he had from Steichen last year.  Josh Allen was struggling and the Bills were looking bad then they fired their OC in season and now they're on a roll.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

F’ING YIKES. 

3 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

I’m sure it is too soon to try to be rational, but I’m not in the "fire Nick” camp. 
 

the other coordinators? Absolutely  especially on offense because they had the horses to be far better than they were  and coaching clearly has to make Hurts better  

That defense though - they clearly didn’t have the horses - and probably also the coaching. Howie owns the abomination of the middle of the D.  He gambled on the O carrying this team this season as they transitioned and they didn’t. 
 

yeah, Nick owns his share and has a very short leash but I don’t think he should be gone. 

Obviously the DC will change. The million dollar question is how much of the offense’s failings is because this is Sirianni’s offense? Lurie wants a cutting edge offense, and we’re a spiraling offense without any real answers to the test. We’re dead last in motion, which is turned into a cheat code for teams. We have no clue how to attack the blitz unless it’s Smith or Brown making a play downfield. 

Watching Hurts talk reminds me of one of the biggest reasons this city fell in love with a Center. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and shows emotion just as much as we do as fans. Jalen’s tone came off as IDGAF, we’ll learn from it, turn a negative into a positive, etc. I know he’s not gonna have a meltdown at the podium but F man, don’t be such a robot. 

Ever since the "it’s like 1st and 9” quote I feel like we’ve down everything by try to get to short yardage lol 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles are going to fire Sirianni, but no one else, because they need to see if Brian Johnson gets hired first so they can get the draft picks.

I can't see a one year OC getting hired as a HC after what analyst/commentators said all night and knowing what transpired over the last 7 -8 weeks. You are right though that is absolutely the right play in case someone does hire him. IF he doesn't get hired and PHI decides to fire Siri, that puts them behind in the search for the new HC though doesn't it?. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I hope that we get a report sometime this week Mariota was spotted in the parking lot after the game crushing Coors Lights and throwing the football to himself because he was convinced the Eagles would have won had they put him in. 

sounds like Jalen is uncoachable and to stubborn to do what is right, hes a moron and there is a reason he was benched in college but our coaches/GM are to stubborn to do it so it looks like we are stuck with him

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

What does Nick bring? If he lost the team the last 3rd of the season and this is how they showed up in playoffs, how can you bring him back? He’s not an Xs & Os guy. Can’t call plays. Only value is rah rah BS when things are going well. He’s getting canned along with the others.

the rah rah doesnt only work when things are going well.

Eagles have been in this position before. He talked about a flower, and they set the world on fire.

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Obviously the DC will change. The million dollar question is how much of the offense’s failings is because this is Sirianni’s offense? Lurie wants a cutting edge offense, and we’re a spiraling offense without any real answers to the test. We’re dead last in motion, which is turned into a cheat code for teams. We have no clue how to attack the blitz unless it’s Smith or Brown making a play downfield. 

Getting blown out by the Giants and 1st round exit should tell him everything we need to know about this offense. It’s not preparing them for success. They have a bunch of empty stats but terrible situationally and against pressure. Va-Nil-A offense. 

2 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

F’ING YIKES. 

They all gots to go

23 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

 

Players get frustrated in losses and argue all the time.  It shows maturity and good team culture that they keep that stuff in house and in their interviews they don't point fingers and blame each other.  Receivers and QBs argue at times when there's a miscommunication, when there's frustration and things.  People want to take 5 seconds of screen time during the broadcast and make a big deal of it, but as long as the players shake it off and move on then all is good.

They're all frustrated by the coaching.  I want to see what this group does with a new coach next year - at minimum a quality OC.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

the rah rah doesnt only work when things are going well.

Eagles have been in this position before. He talked about a flower, and they set the world on fire.

 

Having zero answer for the blitz the last 7 games. That right there is a fireable offense in and of itself as a HC. It’s his team. He needs to step in and fix things if his coordinators aren’t. 

1 minute ago, Birdman said:

Why do you think Nick shouldn't be fired and what do you think he does well?

First, I think he did well the past 2 years. They looked well coached, they were together, and they improved. 
 

I don’t need my HC to be the great tactician. I need him to be a great leader and let the people under him do that. I’ve never liked a HC that calls plays on either side of the ball. 
 

I think he is a strong leader. I’d love to know if these coordinators were his picks or not. If they were, then he has to own those choices. I think they were a group hire, but we’ll see. 

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Watching Hurts talk reminds me of one of the biggest reasons this team fell in love with a Center. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and shows emotion just as much as we do as fans. Jalen’s tone came off as IDGAF, we’ll learn from it, turn a negative into a positive, etc. I know he’s not gonna have a meltdown at the podium but F man, don’t be such a robot. 

I think he was created in a lab.

A meth lab

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Having zero answer for the blitz the last 7 games. That right there is a fireable offense in and of itself as a HC. It’s his team. He needs to step in and fix things if his coordinators aren’t. 

he didnt have 0 answer.... Hurts blew it on a lot of those plays. 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They are not going to fire Sirianni. Hopefully they can hire an OC with the understanding he gets the title later afrer Johnson is hopefully hired elsewhere. I give that about 1 week and when he doesnt land a job he can go too. 

Maybe the move is to give Johnson more of a say on offense. You defended Howie having to pick players off Joe Douglas’ board. Maybe Sirianni isn’t giving Johnson a good menu to choose from…

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Watching Hurts talk reminds me of one of the biggest reasons this team fell in love with a Center. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and shows emotion just as much as we do as fans. Jalen’s tone came off as IDGAF, we’ll learn from it, turn a negative into a positive, etc. I know he’s not gonna have a meltdown at the podium but F man, don’t be such a robot. 

A co worker who is a niners fan, said "hurts looks like it's everyone elses problem that the team sucks" lol

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Watching Hurts talk reminds me of one of the biggest reasons this city fell in love with a Center. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and shows emotion just as much as we do as fans. Jalen’s tone came off as IDGAF, we’ll learn from it, turn a negative into a positive, etc. I know he’s not gonna have a meltdown at the podium but F man, don’t be such a robot. 

When they were winning, people praised Hurts for being all business and stoic.

There are lots of clips of him getting very passionate in the locker room, in pre-game, screaming and hyping guys up.  He goes in front of the media the same way Andy Reid did.  All business, don't give them anything.  He's pissed about the loss, he's not running for political office and has to put on some show.  Reid was the same, he would be screaming and excited with the players in the locker room then a snooze fest in press conferences.

I don't care if Hurts or any player is stoic or boring in press conferences, I care what they do on the field.  They all probably hate that they are force to talk to the media and answer questions, especially immediately after a loss.  

1 minute ago, purplefiggy said:

First, I think he did well the past 2 years. They looked well coached, they were together, and they improved. 
 

I don’t need my HC to be the great tactician. I need him to be a great leader and let the people under him do that. I’ve never liked a HC that calls plays on either side of the ball. 
 

I think he is a strong leader. I’d love to know if these coordinators were his picks or not. If they were, then he has to own those choices. I think they were a group hire, but we’ll see. 

Such a "strong leader" that the team quit on him the last third of the season and flamed out in spectacular fashion.  

Make it make sense.

Just now, ManuManu said:

Maybe the move is to give Johnson more of a say on offense. You defended Howie having to pick players off Joe Douglas’ board. Maybe Sirianni isn’t giving Johnson a good menu to choose from…

Siri's menu was fine last year with a different OC.