3 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

The most important part is that he's not a young guy. Just look at the resume.

Now THAT'S the kind of resume you want in a head coach, F the hiring young nonsense. Way too risky.

Let's start the Monken for Head Coach energy channel. Dude is an offensive guru.

They took our Steichen.

We'll rob their Monken.

So is the NFL.

Go Ravens!

Just now, ManuManu said:

You can’t blame Hurts for bland route concepts. You can run some cool concepts that are easy reads. Blaming Hurts for that is lame, but predictable.

Again, the offense took a step backward with Johnson at OC. It was fine with Siri and a competent OC the year before. You can try to move goalposts but each time you do it uncovers the real problem which is either Hurts, or Johnson. Or both. Not Nick.

Look at from Luries perspective.  Who is to blame?  His pop warner coaching staff or the players that carried them to a 10-1 start.  Coaching cost them the Lombardi last year and cost them a wasted season this year.  Fire the clown show and get competent coaches in place please.  

 

I tried to be positive and hopeful earlier in the year.  The roster on offense was too good and we saw how they played last year.  Despite issues on the defensive roster, there were still pieces and they were 10-1.

I didn't want to believe they could collapse that bad.  I once thought Siri must be doing something right since he made the SB last year.  I can't believe the collapse we saw to end the season.  Last year we said the defense had talent and they were winning despite Gannon's scheme, which put them in bad positions.

I look back to Siri calling plays last year and the offense not performing and fans wanted change.  Steichen took over play calling and the offense took off.  I think this year they were riding on talent and scraping by to win games despite the coaching.

Eventually other teams saw they were predictable and easy to scheme against.  The younger players - in particular those that came from good college coaching - were frustrated by the poor coaching and they weren't performing as well.  The veterans can play under any coach because they've been through several regimes and are winners but even some of them regressed.

This is all coaching.  The team regressed, became frustrated, mental mistakes and lack of effort followed.  They swapped Desai for Patricia out of desperation and the defense got worse.  The offense was demoralized by awful play calling, guys getting hurt because of their dumb decisions.

It starts with Siri and he must be fired. If they don't, then they must replace both coordinators with experienced, quality guys not someone learning on the job. The window is too short given the talent on offense, and some pieces on defense.  Focus the offseason on upgrading the defensive roster and roll with experienced coordinators who can right the ship. Then, judge the players' performance once they have competent coaching again.  

Just now, Arsenal79 said:

It has everything to do with the coach's intelligence.  His "menu" was figured out and he's not intelligent enough to adjust it into a new "menu".

Not his menu. Hurts' kids menu. QB not good enough to order off the more sophisticated menu.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Sounds like he wants Nick gone. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Again, the offense took a step backward with Johnson at OC. It was fine with Siri and a competent OC the year before. You can try to move goalposts but each time you do it uncovers the real problem which is either Hurts, or Johnson. Or both. Not Nick.

Moving the goal posts? You’re simply ignoring the point that teams have two full seasons and an offseason to prepare for this offense. Sirianni himself says this is his offense. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Again, the offense took a step backward with Johnson at OC. It was fine with Siri and a competent OC the year before. You can try to move goalposts but each time you do it uncovers the real problem which is either Hurts, or Johnson. Or both. Not Nick.

It's not possible for Johnson to be the problem under an offensive head coach.  If Johnson is the problem, that means Siri is the problem for not taking away offensive playcalling and/or gameplanning from him.  Otherwise you're saying Siri has no clue about offense and brings nothing of value to the table.

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

Deflecting as he should but it’s obvious he doesn’t want him here because if he did the answer would be a resounding YES

Said it a couple of weeks ago and I’ll say it again:

The $255M QB playing subpar football is the biggest detriment to this organization right now.  I don’t know why you guys think there should be a magical treasure trove of hot read plays that need to be brought in by some genius OC or head coach.  The QB has to make pre-snap reads and distribute the football to keep everyone involved.  That’s what beats the blitz — recognize where the blitz is coming from and throw to the open man.

As long as the QB is incapable of doing that, you’ll all be looking a long time for an OC.

Just now, ManuManu said:

Moving the goal posts? You’re simply ignoring the point that teams have two full seasons and an offseason to prepare for this offense. Sirianni himself says this is his offense. 

Its really tough to get through to you guys.

Siri was willing to say anything stupid to not throw his guys under the bus. I know he said it was his offense but you have to be an idiot to ignore all the obvious facts and believe that to be the truth.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Siri's menu was fine last year with a different OC. 

That’s IF that’s his menu. Remember he had to give up playcalling during the season. 

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

It's not possible for Johnson to be the problem under an offensive head coach.  If Johnson is the problem, that means Siri is the problem for not taking away offensive playcalling and/or gameplanning from him.  Otherwise you're saying Siri has no clue about offense and brings nothing of value to the table.

this is becoming a circular conversation. Maybe youre not willing to admit that Hurts limited everyone on this team this year. 

5 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Are you Nick Sirianni's wife or something?  Or his agent? 

Nah. Just someone who is willing to go beyond first level thinking

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not his menu. Hurts' kids menu. QB not good enough to order off the more sophisticated menu.

This is a dumb narrative. There are plays Hurts stands in the pocket and delivers accurate passes.  Everyone has called out the bad play calling.  They ran an "adult menu" last year and Hurts played great.

Hurts had issues, bad decisions, turnovers, etc.  He takes blame.  But the coaching is horrible. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

OK. Maybe we should question his IQ

Just now, Diehardfan said:

OK. Maybe we should question his IQ

Maybe, but not on this.

He's right. Siri must go.

Just now, GoEagles614 said:

That’s IF that’s his menu. Remember he had to give up playcalling during the season. 

his plays were likely too sophisticated for Hurts. He had to turn it over to the RPO experts. Hurts required a simplified offense. And you guys are all killing Siri for not making adjustments. Hurts literally can not handle the adjustments that needed to be made.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

That’s AJ and Smitty 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Said it a couple of weeks ago and I’ll say it again:

The $255M QB playing subpar football is the biggest detriment to this organization right now.  I don’t know why you guys think there should be a magical treasure trove of hot read plays that need to be brought in by some genius OC or head coach.  The QB has to make pre-snap reads and distribute the football to keep everyone involved.  That’s what beats the blitz — recognize where the blitz is coming from and throw to the open man.

As long as the QB is incapable of doing that, you’ll all be looking a long time for an OC.

thank you.

between people who dont get it, and people who arent willing to accept reality with hurts this is going to be an exhausting offseason. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah.

Clearly Johnson sucked.

What no one knows is what Siri's NFL style offense would look like with his college QB running it. We can do trial by fire and see if Hurts has developed enough to run a real offense since his RPO crap has been figured out. The guy with no answers was Hurts. Its blatantly obvious. 

The thing is, the league has trends. Some trends stay around and get blended into offenses. Some trends don't and get figured out with additional tape. When a young coach is trained on these trends, and don't have enough other experience, they can struggle without help to figure it out.

And Sirianni had absolutely no help - not from anyone on the roster. No one. Was ANYONE an experienced offensive coach?

This is the PRICE paid with young coaches. With young coaches you ALWAYS run the risk of this problem.

This is why I'm saying young coaches in Philadelphia is a bad idea. After winning a SB, our patience as a fanbase evaporated. So if you don't have versatility and experience, either as a coach, or as a former player + coach, you're too risky for Philadelphia.

ESPECIALLY after what happened to Doug, and then what would happen to Sirianni if we get a new coach. If we fire a third coach soon, literally no one worth their salt is going to want to trust us.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

You can’t blame Hurts for bland route concepts. You can run some cool concepts that are easy reads. Blaming Hurts for that is lame, but predictable.

That slant to Smitty and deep ball was a thing of beauty. Well thrown balls and perfect timing for that play. It’s a shame those plays only happened here and there for the last half of the season. 

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

Maybe, but not on this.

He's right. Siri must go.

He didn't say he must go. He said he had confidence in everyone in the building