Just now, Diehardfan said:

He didn't say he must go. He said he had confidence in everyone in the building 

Read between the lines.

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Sounds like he wants Nick gone. 

Sounds like he said nothing, as usual

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

This is a dumb narrative. There are plays Hurts stands in the pocket and delivers accurate passes.  Everyone has called out the bad play calling.  They ran an "adult menu" last year and Hurts played great.

Hurts had issues, bad decisions, turnovers, etc.  He takes blame.  But the coaching is horrible. 

lol. lots wrong in this post. 

From Reddit:

This season has the single best collection of coaches available and teams available of all time:

If you want veterans you can go with

• Belichick the GOAT

• Carroll, won a CFB championship and Super Bowl.

• Harbaugh, has succeeded at every level like Carroll.

• Vrabel, he's like a junior version of Belichick and without the GM baggage

If you want up and coming stars you can go with

• Ben Johnson, the next offensive genius

• Bobby Slowik, transformed the Texans offense into a top 10 unit. Ran laps around Jim Schwartz last week

• Mike MacDonald, leading the #1 defense in the NFL right now

Other candidates who've performed really well

• Todd Monken, made Georgia an incredibly offense and created a well balanced Lamar MVP offense this year

• Dave Cannales turned around Byron Leftwich's horrible job last year and revitalized Baker's career

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its really tough to get through to you guys.

Siri was willing to say anything stupid to not throw his guys under the bus. I know he said it was his offense but you have to be an idiot to ignore all the obvious facts and believe that to be the truth.

Let’s say you’re right about all this. Sirianni has now fired himself as playcaller, hired a bad OC in Johnson and hired three DCs who took turns being historically bad in various circumstances/stats over the past two seasons.

Why keep him? Because he hired Steichen? 

8 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I get it. I do. But he will never be beloved in this city like Kelce is. 

Ok.  Probably no one will lol.

Hurts was the MVP runner up last year, and everyone was amazed at his progress from the previous season.  Steichen had him playing great, calling creative plays and the offense wasn't boring and predictable.

I want to see what he does with a new OC (and hopefully HC) next year.  I love Kelce, he's on my Mount Rushmore of Eagles in history.  He means a lot to fans and the city and community.  Hard to compare anyone to him.  DeVonta Smith is a great player but isn't loved like Kelce either.  He's not a "personality" he's just a great player.  It's great when a player is well loved like Kelce, but if that's the bar then most players will fall short of that.

I'm fine if my QB is stoic and doesn't say much and gives player-speak to the media in press conferences.  If the players think he's a good teammate, if he goes out and wins and performs that's his job.  The rest is extra.  Yes, Hurts regressed this year, so did a lot of players.  So I want to see him next year with new coaching and see how the offense looks.

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

From Reddit:

This season has the single best collection of coaches available and teams available of all time:

If you want veterans you can go with

• Belichick the GOAT

• Carroll, won a CFB championship and Super Bowl.

• Harbaugh, has succeeded at every level like Carroll.

• Vrabel, he's like a junior version of Belichick and without the GM baggage

If you want up and coming stars you can go with

• Ben Johnson, the next offensive genius

• Bobby Slowik, transformed the Texans offense into a top 10 unit. Ran laps around Jim Schwartz last week

• Mike MacDonald, leading the #1 defense in the NFL right now

Other candidates who've performed really well

• Todd Monken, made Georgia an incredibly offense and created a well balanced Lamar MVP offense this year

• Dave Cannales turned around Byron Leftwich's horrible job last year and revitalized Baker's career

Yeah, this isn't the time for Jeff to sit on the sidelines 

4 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Deflecting as he should but it’s obvious he doesn’t want him here because if he did the answer would be a resounding YES

Kinda sad when Nick was up there making an idiot out of himself saying he played for a DPI to protect Hurts…

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

The thing is, the league has trends. Some trends stay around and get blended into offenses. Some trends don't and get figured out with additional tape. When a young coach is trained on these trends, and don't have enough other experience, they can struggle without help to figure it out.

And Sirianni had absolutely no help - not from anyone on the roster. No one. Was ANYONE an experienced offensive coach?

This is the PRICE paid with young coaches. With young coaches you ALWAYS run the risk of this problem.

This is why I'm saying young coaches in Philadelphia is a bad idea. After winning a SB, our patience as a fanbase evaporated. So if you don't have versatility and experience, either as a coach, or as a former player + coach, you're too risky for Philadelphia.

ESPECIALLY after what happened to Doug, and then what would happen to Sirianni if we get a new coach. If we fire a third coach soon, literally no one worth their salt is going to want to trust us.

IF Sirianni had a staff full of excellent NFL offensive minds, the offense would be destined to fail because of the QB we have. Siri correctly had college RPO experts here to help Hurts. The NFL figured it out but we are stuck with Hurts at QB. So we cant just install an NFL offense and adjust. We are stuck.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

That’s AJ and Smitty 

Sure Hurts isn’t a part of that discussion as well? After each failed drive you go to the bench and wrap up in your coat with no tablet, no interaction with your receivers that you seem so out of sync with. 

2 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

That slant to Smitty and deep ball was a thing of beauty. Well thrown balls and perfect timing for that play. It’s a shame those plays only happened here and there for the last half of the season. 

Actually, if the slant to Smith was a better throw it might have been a TD.  Smith had to take the throw off of his back hip.

5 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

Nah. Just someone who is willing to go beyond first level thinking

Nick Sirianni is a "strong leader" = higher level thinking lolololol

6 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Need to rebuild the entire defense with youth and athleticism.  Enough burning assets on washed veterans who other teams can't wait to get rid of.

The Eagles were 1-0 with VanSumeren as a starter on defense.  They could have rolled with him earlier and he would have been good by the playoffs.  Did McCollum play?  He's top measurables,  good PFF.   Sydney Brown hurt.  Kelee Ringo.   

Slay was the only Cornerback that PFF had as above average.   There were 3 above average Safeties,  3 above average ILBs, but only 1 above average CB.  

Draft -
First round - Cornerback

And look for more fast DBs in the draft.

PFF had 4 DTs top 1/4.
Reddick and Graham were top.   So,  the need isn't clear.  If Graham goes,  maybe use a 2nd on a DE.  

And I'd get Allen, 245 pound rb from Wisconsin,  in the 2nd or 3rd.  Big backs to carry the ball, Fullbacks and Running backs,  used to be common.  It's hard to find any ball carrier as heavy as Jim Brown or a long list of others who were also big today.   Most of the rb choices in any draft year are 220 lbs or lighter.  Allen is big and fast.   You can use Michigan Wolverines Fullback Ben VanSumeren to be a big back, he's already on the roster and he isn't doing much.  Or you can draft Allen in the 2nd or 3rd round. 

Way too much empty set.  Min protect.  We have 2 WRs we like to throw to.  Our backups are small and not blockingmost. The top WR is hurt and out.  Let's put a lot of decoy WRs out there alongside the WR who everyone knows is going to get the targets.

I'd rather put an extra BIG player out there, in the backfield,  blocking,  giving more time to Hurts to find Smith.

Whichever,   if the Eagles could have just designated a "replacement target getter" for the 3 target getters the Eagles have,  Smith wouldn't just automatically get Browns targets,  because they're both on the "getting targets" list. 

 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Let’s say you’re right about all this. Sirianni has now fired himself as playcaller, hired a bad OC in Johnson and hired three DCs who took turns being historically bad in various circumstances/stats over the past two seasons.

Why keep him? Because he hired Steichen? 

DC hiring is an issue.

The offensive hires were out of necessity to give his QB the best chance of success. The problem is now its been figured out and they are stuck because they cant just install a more sophisticated offense. Hurts wont be able to run it effectively, and like it or not hes our QB for at least the next 2 years. 

Doesnt everyone say Lurie/Howie insist on this defensive scheme? Is it going to be Nicks fault when its convenient to support the fire nick narrative?

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thank you.

between people who dont get it, and people who arent willing to accept reality with hurts this is going to be an exhausting offseason. 

Even if you are right, it’s irrelevant as Hurts’ contract means he is here for the next 3-4 years minimum. So whatever he can run, that’s what we have to do. If Nick and Brian can’t maximize Hurts, they are gone because Hurts can’t be cut or traded. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

his plays were likely too sophisticated for Hurts. He had to turn it over to the RPO experts. Hurts required a simplified offense. And you guys are all killing Siri for not making adjustments. Hurts literally can not handle the adjustments that needed to be made.

Then why did  Lurie/Howie pay him earlier than they needed to? If he’s this mouth breathing simpleton who can only run an RPO?

By the way, if you’re facing a team that blitzes, call plays with a slant. It doesn’t even have to be a hot route. Too many times we saw four verts or four hitches. That’s not on the QB.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Even if you are right, it’s irrelevant as Hurts’ contract means he is here for the next 3-4 years minimum. So whatever he can run, that’s what we have to do. If Nick and Brian can’t maximize Hurts, they are gone because Hurts can’t be cut or traded. 

Exactly. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Let’s say you’re right about all this. Sirianni has now fired himself as playcaller, hired a bad OC in Johnson and hired three DCs who took turns being historically bad in various circumstances/stats over the past two seasons.

Why keep him? Because he hired Steichen? 

Relax.

He’s doing this for Frank Reich. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

IF Sirianni had a staff full of excellent NFL offensive minds, the offense would be destined to fail because of the QB we have. Siri correctly had college RPO experts here to help Hurts. The NFL figured it out but we are stuck with Hurts at QB. So we cant just install an NFL offense and adjust. We are stuck.

Nick Foles was struggling when he took over for Wentz.  They went to the tape when he had his successful season with Chip running RPO and adapted the offense to his strengths.

People around here move the goal post all the time.  They want coaches that call plays that suit the players strengths not force a square peg into a round hole.  But when they do and you don't like the QB, then the narrative is what you are posting.

 

Just now, Maga301 said:

Sure Hurts isn’t a part of that discussion as well? After each failed drive you go to the bench and wrap up in your coat with no tablet, no interaction with your receivers that you seem so out of sync with. 

There are things Hurts needs to clean up for sure, but AJ Brown and Smith being so demonstrably frustrated after failed 3rd downs has bugged me for quite awhile.  There’s a fine line between getting the ball to your best targets and force-feeding them.  Both Brown and Smith want the ball a lot, but need to temper their disdain when the ball doesn’t go their way.

6 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

From Reddit:

This season has the single best collection of coaches available and teams available of all time:

If you want veterans you can go with

• Belichick the GOAT

• Carroll, won a CFB championship and Super Bowl.

• Harbaugh, has succeeded at every level like Carroll.

• Vrabel, he's like a junior version of Belichick and without the GM baggage

If you want up and coming stars you can go with

• Ben Johnson, the next offensive genius

• Bobby Slowik, transformed the Texans offense into a top 10 unit. Ran laps around Jim Schwartz last week

• Mike MacDonald, leading the #1 defense in the NFL right now

Other candidates who've performed really well

• Todd Monken, made Georgia an incredibly offense and created a well balanced Lamar MVP offense this year

• Dave Cannales turned around Byron Leftwich's horrible job last year and revitalized Baker's career

How did that guy forget to include Brian Johnson???

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Even if you are right, it’s irrelevant as Hurts’ contract means he is here for the next 3-4 years minimum. So whatever he can run, that’s what we have to do. If Nick and Brian can’t maximize Hurts, they are gone because Hurts can’t be cut or traded. 

They have maximized him by doing what theyve done. The NFL figured him out. Now what else can they do? They are literally stuck with this system because they are stuck with him. 

What do you think happens when the next coach comes in here and runs this RPO offense with Hurts? Its still the same stuff thats been figured out. And what do you think happens if they force him to run an NFL style offense? He will flop and their team will suck. They have a huge problem. The QB is making 250million and hes not good enough and we are stuck.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Actually, if the slant to Smith was a better throw it might have been a TD.  Smith had to take the throw off of his back hip.

I’m with you but when this offense completes a 20+ yard pitch and catch, holy S you enjoy it and embrace it because we didn’t produce many of those 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Then why did  Lurie/Howie pay him earlier than they needed to? If he’s this mouth breathing simpleton who can only run an RPO?

By the way, if you’re facing a team that blitzes, call plays with a slant. It doesn’t even have to be a hot route. Too many times we saw four verts or four hitches. That’s not on the QB.

those hitches were open today with enough yardage for the 1st downs. QB didnt throw them. He faded away and threw to people at the line of scrimmage instead. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

DC hiring is an issue.

The offensive hires were out of necessity to give his QB the best chance of success. The problem is now its been figured out and they are stuck because they cant just install a more sophisticated offense. Hurts wont be able to run it effectively, and like it or not hes our QB for at least the next 2 years. 

It started game 1 with hurts, when the patriots were throwing zone looks at him and he looked lost all the way back then. Then every team the rest of the year threw different zone looks at him.