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5 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Man, he really is the Travis Kelce of coaches. If he wasn't the Eagles coach, he'd be very high up on punchable faces. With that being said, glad he's on our side!

 

What a d bag. His team won because the other team can’t catch 

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Still only 5 snaps for nolan smith

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Julio obviously getting more snaps due to dallas being out

7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And there were so many more to choose from.    Remember opening day, 1999... Dougie P drops a beautiful pass over the shoulder to Villanova stud Brian Finneran to seal the first game of the Andy Reid era and hold on to win a close game and run out the clock... only for Finneran to not catch the ball, knock it up in the air, and have it intercepted and returned about 30-40 yards setting up a game winning FG for the Cardinals.  Yeah, I was there at that game... with my wife.  First game she ever went to.     (Also, last game she ever went to.)

I was at that game too. If you remember seeing someone wearing an Eagles jersey, that was me. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Luck and being incredibly fortunate are two very different and independent things.  It was a calculated risk … pure and simple. 

Anyone replying to me about "calculated risks” is missing the point completely.

And not to mention it appeared to be a coverage bust. I seriously doubt we intended to triple cover Kelce on a 7-yard route on 2nd and 10 at midfield. 

59 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I was at that game too. If you remember seeing someone wearing an Eagles jersey, that was me. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I thought I recognized you.

9 hours ago, judunno said:

Some people on this board can't comprehend that the plan was to limit Kelce at all costs and force the other guys to make plays. KC failed.

That wasn't his original point. His original point was that we were lucky they had easy drops which is true.  

The coverage schemes Desai chose were the correct strategy, but we were still lucky they had huge drops on uncontested catches.  It's ok to be lucky, we were also unlucky at times.  Acknowledge reality.

51 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Anyone replying to me about "calculated risks” is missing the point completely.

And not to mention it appeared to be a coverage bust. I seriously doubt we intended to triple cover Kelce on a 7-yard route on 2nd and 10 at midfield. 

What is your point exactly to still be going with a drop from a JAG WR after a massive awesome Eagles victory? The Eagles were living with low % down field targets to the KC WRs in the rain. Further they had 3 safeties in with their big dime package to close out the game. They had Byard in man on Kelce, Reed had eyes on the QB and bracketing (looked like he was responsible for taking away the scramble and help with Byard), question is what was Browns assignment. On the previously plays he was just as aggressive as he was on the play where Roby got caught flat footed. Could the rookie have busted the coverage... not out of the question. However, if you're to bust a coverage in THIS particular game, extra attention to Kelce isn't a horrible thing given the state of the KC Wrs.

2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

What a d bag. His team won because the other team can’t catch 

Chiefs won the Super Bowl because the field was garbage. Our excuses don't count, neither do theirs.

9 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

It was a one-score game.  There were dozens of plays the shifted the balance in the game.  The MVS drop was one that is easy to identify.

There is a randomness to football.  It may look like luck to some. In many ways it resembles poker.  The better players won't win every hand.  But over time, the randomness favors them if they continue make wise bets.

Betting against the KC WRs was a wise one.

There's another word for "randomness" and it's "luck"

The strategy was good but the execution was piss-poor and therefore we had to rely on luck.

18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

That wasn't his original point. His original point was that we were lucky they had easy drops which is true.  

The coverage schemes Desai chose were the correct strategy, but we were still lucky they had huge drops on uncontested catches.  It's ok to be lucky, we were also unlucky at times.  Acknowledge reality.

I don't subscribe to luck in these scenarios on low % plays many of you do. KC receivers can't catch. Well known across the league. That would be like me saying that an opposing team was lucky that Agholor didn't drop those passes... we'll get em next time champ ha.

21 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

That wasn't his original point. His original point was that we were lucky they had easy drops which is true.  

The coverage schemes Desai chose were the correct strategy, but we were still lucky they had huge drops on uncontested catches.  It's ok to be lucky, we were also unlucky at times.  Acknowledge reality.

I can acknowledge that, the Chiefs were lucky that our speed and bend oriented rush was nullified by the field in the Super Bowl by the worst dome field in Super Bowl history. I think we can all agree that they were the most fortunate, they got the Lombardi. They'll live.

2 minutes ago, judunno said:

I don't subscribe to luck in these scenarios on low % plays many of you do. KC receivers can't catch. Well known across the league. That would be like me saying that an opposing team was lucky that Agholor didn't drop those passes... we'll get em next time champ ha.

This is an interesting take, I don't really disagree. I do think there was some luck involved, but I do think that yes, if you wanted any player to be trying to catch the game winning TD, that one was probably a good choice statistically.

28 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

That wasn't his original point. His original point was that we were lucky they had easy drops which is true.  

The coverage schemes Desai chose were the correct strategy, but we were still lucky they had huge drops on uncontested catches.  It's ok to be lucky, we were also unlucky at times.  Acknowledge reality.

I mean the Chiefs lead the league in drops so at some point it also has to move beyond just luck and move to the Chiefs WR corps just being trash. You know?

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

This is an interesting take, I don't really disagree. I do think there was some luck involved, but I do think that yes, if you wanted any player to be trying to catch the game winning TD, that one was probably a good choice statistically.

Fortune and luck just seems magical to me. All about ones interpretation of luck which varies from person to person. To that point I'll stop projecting my interpretation. What's silly to me is probably fact and indisputable to someone else :)

Final score:   Eagles 21 - Chiefs 17.   

Eagles won.
Chiefs lost. 

 

That's all the matters in the standings.   On to Buffalo!

 

 

 

Josh Allen sux.  Stefon Diggs is jealous of his brother.  And Sean McDermott cries into his pillow every night about living in Buffalo.

8 minutes ago, judunno said:

I don't subscribe to luck in these scenarios on low % plays many of you do. KC receivers can't catch. Well known across the league. That would be like me saying that an opposing team was lucky that Agholor didn't drop those passes... we'll get em next time champ ha.

The idea is to allow their lesser players to work against single coverage.  The idea isn't to bust your coverage and give them 5 yards of separation for a go-ahead score with under 2 min to go.

You're making an asinine argument that is not related to Manus original point.  It's juvenile and not nuanced.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Final score:   Eagles 21 - Chiefs 17.   

Eagles won.
Chiefs lost. 

 

That's all the matters in the standings.   On to Buffalo!

 

 

 

Josh Allen sux.  Stefon Diggs is jealous of his brother.  And Sean McDermott cries into his pillow every night about living in Buffalo.

Buttt butttt if they play like this 3 months from now they're going to lose Clevus. We should continue to beat the dead horse of what might happen in the Superbowl if they don't tighten up. Profound I know.

6 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I mean the Chiefs lead the league in drops so at some point it also has to move beyond just luck and move to the Chiefs WR corps just being trash. You know?

How many of those drops are wide open passes?

Again, Desai himself would say they were lucky that their obvious coverage bust didnt cost them a TD.

He's not going to be like "there is no luck,

I knew hed drop that pass so I told our DBs to just let him get 5 yards behind them"

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

Fortune and luck just seems magical to me. All about ones interpretation of luck which varies from person to person. To that point I'll stop projecting my interpretation. What's silly to me is probably fact and indisputable to someone else 🙂

Now he's a philosophizer

Just now, Mike31mt said:

The idea is to allow their lesser players to work against single coverage.  The idea isn't to bust your coverage and give them 5 yards of separation for a go-ahead score with under 2 min to go.

You're making an asinine argument that is not related to Manus original point.  It's juvenile and not nuanced.

We don't know what the coverage was. Do you? If so what was the call, who was supposed to do what? Roby is our best slot guy hes not a lesser player to the amazing MVC. He was clearly in man. He just got burned sometimes other players win their one on ones. They were paying Kelce extra attention all game and for good reason.

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Now he's a philosophizer

I don't think you know what that word means.

We get it. 

This was a lucky play and the Chiefs only won the Super Bowl because of luck last year. Would they be so lucky again this year? Apparently, we shouldn't count on it ...

 

I'm still enjoying this Chiefs comeback win but looking ahead to Buffalo.  The Eagles lead the All Time Series 8-6.  The Bills also haven't won in Philadelphia since 1996.  The Eagles have  won the last 4 of 5 Matchups.   Should be an interesting battle.   I don't think the Bills are a bad team just a little more up and down this year.  

2 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

I'm still enjoying this Chiefs comeback win but looking ahead to Buffalo.  The Eagles lead the All Time Series 8-6.  The Bills also haven't won in Philadelphia since 1996.  The Eagles have  won the last 4 of 5 Matchups.   Should be an interesting battle.   I don't think the Bills are a bad team just a little more up and down this year.  

Kelly Green week ohhh yeahhh. 

3 hours ago, rrfierce said:

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Still only 5 snaps for nolan smith

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Julio obviously getting more snaps due to dallas being out

Didn’t notice the Albert O snaps (10) despite the Calcaterra injury… I thought that BJ responded with more 10 personnel.

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