On 11/27/2023 at 1:04 AM, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I'm genuinely curious how they come up with the 20.9%. It sounds so authoritative yet to me it seems like it's plucked out of thin air. Quick research leads me to the following. Over the past ten years (all NFL games since 2013 prior to Sunday), a 59 yard field goal has been attempted 26 times. It's been made 12 times. Nearly half of the time. Granted they're being attempted by guys who presumably have better than average skill or else they wouldn't be giving them the opportunity in the first place. So that may skew things slightly.

Okay, so I guess they're factoring in the grass surface, maybe the temperature, the wet field, and the fact that it is also raining. But to me it just seems like it's made up.

Incidentally I have a 59 yarder as being about a 38% chance. Normal conditions etcetera.

44 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm genuinely curious how they come up with the 20.9%. It sounds so authoritative yet to me it seems like it's plucked out of thin air. Quick research leads me to the following. Over the past ten years (all NFL games since 2013 prior to Sunday), a 59 yard field goal has been attempted 26 times. It's been made 12 times. Nearly half of the time. Granted they're being attempted by guys who presumably have better than average skill or else they wouldn't be giving them the opportunity in the first place. So that may skew things slightly.

Okay, so I guess they're factoring in the grass surface, maybe the temperature, the wet field, and the fact that it is also raining. But to me it just seems like it's made up.

Incidentally I have a 59 yarder as being about a 38% chance. Normal conditions etcetera.

All things considered, 20.9% seemed high to me.  I think if you lined up all 32 kickers in the NFL to attempt that exact kick, I believe no more than 4 would have made it.  

14 hours ago, vsptroops said:

I understand that. My point is, I wonder if Reich directly asked them which qb they were taking. If they danced around the question or straight up said they were taking Young, then that's on him for taking the job. 

Not sure if this has been addressed, but the Panthers didn't have the first pick of the draft when Reich was hired. They actually had the ninth overall pick, the one the Eagles ultimately ended up with to take Jalen Carter. They made the trade with the Bears for the first pick on March 10th. So when Reich was being hired, they were in no position to know they were going to have a choice of which quarterback to select.

7 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

Goddamn, this man is clutch

Best part of that photo is the kid waiving to the crowd.  

I just realized something, the Eagles are basically the Harlem Globetrotters lol going into halftime losing only to come out in the second half and mount a comeback to win 

6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I remember coming home from the Dolphins all happy about the win, only to find out after I got home that the Eagles only won the game because of atrocious officiating. I had had no idea during the game that the officials were awful and were blatantly favoring the Eagles the entire time.

So on my way home last night, I joked to my nephew that I'm sure when I get home I'm going to find out how awful the officiating was and how the Bills were screwed throughout. And sure enough, that's what I discovered. I found a Bills message board that pointed this out very clearly to me.

Sheesh...we've won ten games so far but have we actually won any on our own accord or have they all been because of the officials intentionally favoring us? I'm so confused.

A Cowboys message board has been saying the same thing.  
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/these-cheating-refs-are-out-of-control-i’m-sick-of-it.517478/page-2#post-13153351

My theory on Eqgles being such big home underdogs is that the 49ers have put together the perfect gameplan/defense to stop the brotherly shove and the odds makers are aware of this.

13 hours ago, NCiggles said:

People seem to say the passing concepts are simple but it's not like football is rocket science.  They are using the multiple route concepts to beat coverage looks. The offense isn't a fits and starts offense.  They are 3rd in the league in 3rd down conversions.  They are not as dominant as last season but they are a top 5 offense in the League.  

I disagree.   In the first half the offense gives the fans fits... and then it starts in the 2nd half.

13 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I think the same could be said for the World Series. I don't think by any stretch of the imagination that the 1980 Phillies was their best team of that era. But they got hot in September and carried it through the rest of the way.

Same with the 2008 Phillies.  They weren't the best of that era either.

11 hours ago, BirdGang45 said:

yea not a good look for both Josh or Duce. yikes very ugly. 

I think those guys were the ones banging the table for Stroud... and got stuck with Young, and now they are struggling and they are likely even more frustrated and so, the company men stay behind and those that rock the boat get shown the door.

 

Carolina is likely going to stay on the bottom of the league for quite a while now...  they might rise all the way up to mediocrity but over the next 5 years, they will be lucky to win double digits in any season.   More than they likely they will bounce around a max of 5-6 wins more often than not.

6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm genuinely curious how they come up with the 20.9%. It sounds so authoritative yet to me it seems like it's plucked out of thin air. Quick research leads me to the following. Over the past ten years (all NFL games since 2013 prior to Sunday), a 59 yard field goal has been attempted 26 times. It's been made 12 times. Nearly half of the time. Granted they're being attempted by guys who presumably have better than average skill or else they wouldn't be giving them the opportunity in the first place. So that may skew things slightly.

Okay, so I guess they're factoring in the grass surface, maybe the temperature, the wet field, and the fact that it is also raining. But to me it just seems like it's made up.

Incidentally I have a 59 yarder as being about a 38% chance. Normal conditions etcetera.

you also have to factor in the pressure. The fact that if he misses we lose will add significant stress and bring the chances down.

6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm genuinely curious how they come up with the 20.9%. It sounds so authoritative yet to me it seems like it's plucked out of thin air. Quick research leads me to the following. Over the past ten years (all NFL games since 2013 prior to Sunday), a 59 yard field goal has been attempted 26 times. It's been made 12 times. Nearly half of the time. Granted they're being attempted by guys who presumably have better than average skill or else they wouldn't be giving them the opportunity in the first place. So that may skew things slightly.

Okay, so I guess they're factoring in the grass surface, maybe the temperature, the wet field, and the fact that it is also raining. But to me it just seems like it's made up.

Incidentally I have a 59 yarder as being about a 38% chance. Normal conditions etcetera.

Probably need to add wind & the direction of the wind, etc. 

22 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Frank Reich is now available...........

 

(I know it won't happen)

Advisor signing in 1, 2, 3……..

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Howie do it.  

Good to see MNF was another exciting game for the customers. Yikes.  A hard watch is being polite

Still.  It's whiners week now and I can't wait for the whining to start from California

 

7 hours ago, devpool said:

No way he continues coaching after this season. He's like 75 and every year he looks like he's hated every second of coaching. It's like it was bearable when he was winning every year, and now that the team sucks its really setting in how much he hates it.

He's 100% for sure going to continue coaching. He wants to take Shula's record.

6 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

All things considered, 20.9% seemed high to me.  I think if you lined up all 32 kickers in the NFL to attempt that exact kick, I believe no more than 4 would have made it.  

To me the % should be isolated to that kicers chances vs the current conditions. 

 

Elliot w 2- 61 Yard FG's in his career, and a high percentage of over 50....  his chances would be higher than the bottom half of all kickers. 

So my take on the upcoming whiners rematch:

This is a game where it again is begging us to come out with a dominant run game in the first half- I would want to control the clock, wear the defense down by running straight at them. I would be creative, and would not be afraid of spreading them out on 3rd down and running the ball even if it's over 5 yards.... because if we get within a yard on 4th- it's 95% chance of 1st down. the idea is to keep their offense off the field and keep our defense fresh.

I would take one deep shot early- just to make sure they know they have to cover deep.  From there I would make sure my passing game was quick hits, get the ball out quickly type of plays, taking small chunks, again eating the clock. WIth balanced run/pass. 

 

However, this is not what we will do. We again will have a 70-80% pass play calling, with slow developing plays, hoping our line can hold up while Hurts plays the HERO. 

 

Meanwhile Our defense will give up several TD's, while our offense struggles. 

8 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

So my take on the upcoming whiners rematch:

This is a game where it again is begging us to come out with a dominant run game in the first half- I would want to control the clock, wear the defense down by running straight at them. I would be creative, and would not be afraid of spreading them out on 3rd down and running the ball even if it's over 5 yards.... because if we get within a yard on 4th- it's 95% chance of 1st down. the idea is to keep their offense off the field and keep our defense fresh.

I would take one deep shot early- just to make sure they know they have to cover deep.  From there I would make sure my passing game was quick hits, get the ball out quickly type of plays, taking small chunks, again eating the clock. WIth balanced run/pass. 

 

However, this is not what we will do. We again will have a 70-80% pass play calling, with slow developing plays, hoping our line can hold up while Hurts plays the HERO. 

 

Meanwhile Our defense will give up several TD's, while our offense struggles. 

I would try a WR screen to Julio. Maybe see if that will work for us and get the offense going. 

 

 

Honestly this sounds to me like Howie got intel from Shane that Leonard doesn't have much left and is just pushing Dallas to sign him.

 

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

 

 

Honestly this sounds to me like Howie got intel from Shane that Leonard doesn't have much left and is just pushing Dallas to sign him.

For sure... if he really wanted him he would have pounced. It's not like we have world beaters at LB.

31 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He's 100% for sure going to continue coaching. He wants to take Shula's record.

There's no way he's coaching into his 80s

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m dying it would be funnier if he actually believed they could win the division 

 

Sometimes I REALLY hate the internet.