20 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What sort of magnification do you use?

I'm a fan of the very hard to find 7x32 model with extra wide viewing angle. I discovered this specific model about twenty years ago and immediately loved it. It is ideal for football, especially from an endzone view where you don't need to move side to side and can pretty much keep your vision stationary. Bought several "used" ones over the years. But that specific Bushnell model was discontinued. I luckily found a Japanese company that makes a model with the same specification and purchased one two years ago. Kept it in storage for the entirety of the '22 season and broke it out for this year. But my plan is to only bring it to good weather games. Exposing binoculars to bad weather leads to deterioration in quality.

Generally speaking, the stronger the magnification the narrower your field of view. So anything above a 7 would be bad for football. Probably good for bird watching, I guess.

44 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

very good analogy. Allen who is a great QB- is put into positions, by his defense etc where he feels like has to be the Hero, he HAS to make the play. 

 

That in effect is what became of Wentz, when our Oline and Receiving Talent went down hill.  When HE HAD to be the hero. 

 

 

Wentz was mentally done after his injury and Foles won the Super Bowl. Never recovered.

57 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Best football team... best social media team. They're awesome lmao.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

Best football team... best social media team. They're awesome lmao.

We all said WTF when BG was drafted but he's going to be missed. He deserves to go out holding the trophy.

13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

As the college spygate stuff was unfolding, I had far too many conversations with Michigan fans who tried to claim the advantage gained by knowing the other team's signals is minimal. These types of breakdowns prove exactly how laughably false that assertion is. Even knowing the other team's formation ahead of time can be a huge tell and significantly influence the type of play that utlimately gets called in. There's no chance on earth Buffalo calls the same blitz if they knew the play has Swift pre-snap motion to the right, let alone having full knowldege that it's a screen / draw option.

Really?  It's an RPO.  The problem wasn't the zero blitz.  The problem was how their secondary handled the motion.  Too many players flowed with Swift.  One player needed to stay at home.  Hurts saw this and ran it in.  If they defense doesn't flow, Hurts would throw the screen. 

Second, that play doesn't work with linemen not named Kelce and Mailata.

Third....Go Blue!

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Really?  It's an RPO.  The problem wasn't the zero blitz.  The problem was how their secondary handled the motion.  Too many players flowed with Swift.  One player needed to stay at home.  Hurts saw this and ran it in.  If they defense doesn't flow, Hurts would throw the screen. 

Second, that play doesn't work with linemen not named Kelce and Mailata.

Third....Go Blue!

That was the part of the play that really caught my attention.  Mailata ignoring the blitzing player off the edge because he knows his center will get out and pick up that block.  Outstanding stuff.

14 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Really?  It's an RPO.  The problem wasn't the zero blitz.  The problem was how their secondary handled the motion.  Too many players flowed with Swift.  One player needed to stay at home.  Hurts saw this and ran it in.  If they defense doesn't flow, Hurts would throw the screen. 

Second, that play doesn't work with linemen not named Kelce and Mailata.

Third....Go Blue!

If you think zero blitzing right into a screen / draw option is a good defensive play call, not sure there's any point in going further here.

37 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

True.  But if you look at the replay, the motion displaced BOTH safeties, leaving the second level on the left side wide open.

 

Looked more like a blown coverage to me.   Which is good.  Swift had just gotten a big gain, so there were eyeballs on him, and they over-reacted to him, leaving a massive hole to run through for Hurts.

 

 

42 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

As the college spygate stuff was unfolding, I had far too many conversations with Michigan fans who tried to claim the advantage gained by knowing the other team's signals is minimal. These types of breakdowns prove exactly how laughably false that assertion is. Even knowing the other team's formation ahead of time can be a huge tell and significantly influence the type of play that utlimately gets called in. There's no chance on earth Buffalo calls the same blitz if they knew the play has Swift pre-snap motion to the right, let alone having full knowldege that it's a screen / draw option.

Yup.  Same with the Patriots and their cheating scandal.  Knowing what the defense is running is a massive advantage to the offense.   You still need to execute, but it takes out the guessing and you know where the holes are going to be... and where to go with the ball pre-snap.  

52 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Please understand that many of the screens you see are part of an RPO.  Jalen is deciding whether to hand off or throw wide based on what he sees pre- and/or post-snap.

Further, much of the play calling you see in the first quarter is scripted.  These are the plays they want to run in order to learn about how the defense will react to them.  It helps them set up successful plays later in the game, such as the TD to Smith and the game-winner by Hurts.

There's no way you can't pick out when they're going screen to Smith, it's obvious every time, what can Hurts possibly see in the defense that he doesn't keep it, he doesn't hand it off to the tailback, he throws it in the flat, what is it in the other options that is worse than all the guys coming to swallow Smith up for a one yard loss?  Not hitting Smith should be the easiest RPO choice there is, do literally anything else.

15 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

That's great and all but the last few games, we've only been ahead for like 5 minutes of the second half.

30 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We all said WTF when BG was drafted but he's going to be missed. He deserves to go out holding the trophy.

I'm trying to think of another player across Philadelphia teams who was in the fans doghouse early in their career only to become as beloved as BG.  For 5 solid years it was "WE COULD HAVE HAD EARL THOMASES!" from the majority of the fans.  Nobody makes that trade now.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  Same with the Patriots and their cheating scandal.  Knowing what the defense is running is a massive advantage to the offense.   You still need to execute, but it takes out the guessing and you know where the holes are going to be... and where to go with the ball pre-snap.  

Exactly. But try explaining this sort of stuff to neighbors who are casual footbal fans and don't know the first thing about the intricacies of the game. I just nod my head, smile, and say "yeah maybe it didn't really matter that they stole the signals" before changing the subject to less complex topics like lawn maintenance and the weather.

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

wont argue that the problem lies with them.  But will state that when you force young QB's into that position, it's awfully hard to get them out of it. 

 

That is true.

35 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We all said WTF when BG was drafted but he's going to be missed. He deserves to go out holding the trophy.

Nope.  We 'all' didn't.  He was my guy that year.   I would have been happy with him or Earl Thomas.  Graham started slow, but unlike JPP whom a ton of people went gaga over due to his gymnastics routine.   BG proved at UM that he could be a run stuffer as well as a pass rusher.  And that was more valuable to me than a straight pass rusher (aka, JPP).

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nope.  We 'all' didn't.  He was my guy that year.   I would have been happy with him or Earl Thomas.  Graham started slow, but unlike JPP whom a ton of people went gaga over due to his gymnastics routine.   BG proved at UM that he could be a run stuffer as well as a pass rusher.  And that was more valuable to me than a straight pass rusher (aka, JPP).

Well, per usual you know more football than I do. 

BG "Jalen Hurts is coming” as he is hitting people 

 

That’s legend 

54 minutes ago, just relax said:

OR, plays are called to set up other plays. Buffalo is not going to react to allow Swift to get wide open for a TD or Jalen to have a walk-in TD if we don't run those screens. They saved the counters to the WR screens for critical moments. They invested in those moments by calling all those screens. This is not a difficult concept.

Sorry thats blatently false about Hurts 12 yard TD. They didn't call ZERO blitz coverage because of the 5 failed WR screen plays. They called that because they were trying to get to Hurts, the same reason we did Zero Blitz on the Bills last play. And ZERO is why the lane was open for him to run, they went man across the board with zero safeties. That had ZERO to do with the 5 prior failed WR screens. 

 

I get taking a deep shot once or twice to set up plays underneath, I get using a play once and a while to set up another play. BUt YOU DONT CALL THE SAME failed play 5 times to set up one good play. That a losing propositiion. It defies logic. 

 

SO we agree to disagree. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nope.  We 'all' didn't.  He was my guy that year.   I would have been happy with him or Earl Thomas.  Graham started slow, but unlike JPP whom a ton of people went gaga over due to his gymnastics routine.   BG proved at UM that he could be a run stuffer as well as a pass rusher.  And that was more valuable to me than a straight pass rusher (aka, JPP).

I remember protecting that selection a bit as well. Graham was awesome at Michigan and I was a fan leading into that draft. However, the way the team was constructed at the time, I would've preferred Thomas if I had to choose one guy as the S spot was a glaring hole. Would've been really interesting to see how things would've turned out if we went that route instead. Thomas was a great player as a rookie and then pro bowler for the next five years straight.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

True.  But if you look at the replay, the motion displaced BOTH safeties, leaving the second level on the left side wide open.

 

Yes- the went man across the board because of ZERO coverage and we sent 4 WRs to one side and one to the other... that has ZERO to do with any of the WR screens where it is usually only 2 or 3 WR 's over there. 

Now that the All-22 is out, I'm revisiting our first offensive snap.

Kelce takes a step to his right. Note that he started on the hash marks and both feet are now to the right of the hash. This is the slide right. Jurgens, however, is looking inside. You can see that a large gap has opened between him and Driscoll, which Floyd attacks.

Jurgens tries to get back, but he's late. This is what I characterized earlier as Oops.

And Floyd gets through. Hurts will scramble and throw it away.

Just to reiterate, Driscoll is not entirely at fault here. This is a lapse in communication. This is the first time Jurgens and Driscoll have worked together this year, I believe. Stuff happens. FWIW, it never happened again in this game.

34 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Looked more like a blown coverage to me.   Which is good.  Swift had just gotten a big gain, so there were eyeballs on him, and they over-reacted to him, leaving a massive hole to run through for Hurts.

It was zero ceoverage, they went man across the board, because they were blitzing, with our 4 wide (2 WR and Swift) to the right , it drew most of the coverage to that side, leaving the gaping hole for Hurts. 

4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Sorry thats blatently false about Hurts 12 yard TD. They didn't call ZERO blitz coverage because of the 5 failed WR screen plays. They called that because they were trying to get to Hurts, the same reason we did Zero Blitz on the Bills last play. And ZERO is why the lane was open for him to run, they went man across the board with zero safeties. That had ZERO to do with the 5 prior failed WR screens. 

 

I get taking a deep shot once or twice to set up plays underneath, I get using a play once and a while to set up another play. BUt YOU DONT CALL THE SAME failed play 5 times to set up one good play. That a losing propositiion. It defies logic. 

 

SO we agree to disagree. 

Take another look at the play and look at how the safeties reacted to the motion.

17 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

That's great and all but the last few games, we've only been ahead for like 5 minutes of the second half.

That…and every QB seems to have a great statistical game against us anyway.