2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What’s the plan for Steen then - he seems to have some OT ability but not the length.

I’m not sure if there’s a 1st round type center in this draft, there are some good guards but again that blocks Steen’s ascension.

Tend to think steen is their future right guard. I still think if we use our 1st and 2 second rounders we go some sort of mixture of OT, Pass rusher and corner. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tend to think steen is their future right guard. I still think if we use our 1st and 2 second rounders we go some sort of mixture of OT, Pass rusher and corner. 

Could definitely see that combination.

Thinking something like RD1 Jordan Morgan, RD2 J. T. Tuimoloau, and RD2 Kamari Lassiter is very possible.

10 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What’s the plan for Steen then - he seems to have some OT ability but not the length.

I’m not sure if there’s a 1st round type center in this draft, there are some good guards but again that blocks Steen’s ascension.

Yeah that's my bad. I didn't factor Steen into the equation. Makes sense he would be the hopeful successor at RG.

Still a big fan of Van Pran.

 

1 hour ago, pisceschica said:

So why was Ertz traded again?

From what little I remember he was unhappy here.

He wanted out. He was the closest thing to a disgruntled player we had in house in a long time. 

13 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What’s the plan for Steen then - he seems to have some OT ability but not the length.

I’m not sure if there’s a 1st round type center in this draft, there are some good guards but again that blocks Steen’s ascension.

More quality Tackles than other O line positions available in the early rounds this year. 5 projected Tackles off the board in the first round alone depending on which mocks you look at.

14 minutes ago, Godfather said:

They drafted him to play RG. I'm assuming he'll start there next season

That's a good assumption.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tend to think steen is their future right guard. I still think if we use our 1st and 2 second rounders we go some sort of mixture of OT, Pass rusher and corner. 

Yup.

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Yeah that's my bad. I didn't factor Steen into the equation. Makes sense he would be the hopeful successor at RG.

Still a big fan of Van Pran.

 

Van Pran is nice, ton of experience and a good mauler, just not a super athlete or massive for the position.

10 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Could definitely see that combination.

Thinking something like RD1 Jordan Morgan, RD2 J. T. Tuimoloau, and RD2 Kamari Lassiter is very possible.

I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if the eagles took a WR or TE in the second round. Goedert is going to be 30 at the end of 2024 and really nothing in the pipeline is very exciting. I also think with brown and smith, they really don’t have anything behind them that could give them another dynamic. We hoped Quez could but he’s not. I could see if a really good WR fell in the second round they make that move. Their 3 WR sets with goedert and a solid pass catching back would be ridiculous to cover. 

3 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

More quality Tackles than other O line positions available in the early rounds this year. 5 projected Tackles off the board in the first round alone depending on which mocks you look at.

A lot of them are juniors iirc, so the pool might take a hit by January 15th.

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if the eagles took a WR or TE in the second round. Goedert is going to be 30 at the end of 2024 and really nothing in the pipeline is very exciting. I also think with brown and smith, they really don’t have anything behind them. I could see if a really good WR fell in the second round they make that move. Their 3 WR sets with goedert and a solid pass catching back would be ridiculous to cover. 

WR certainly, all shapes sizes and skill sets will be availble - just can't grab the JJAW/Reagor of the bunch.

8 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

WR certainly, all shapes sizes and skill sets will be availble - just can't grab the JJAW/Reagor of the bunch.

I’d prefer a guy who has versatility to play in the slot and outside but has some deep threat speed. Someone like Xavier worthy but i don’t know if I’d trust to take him in the second round when he’s 6’1 and is only 165 pounds. But he has great speed and i think he can play inside and out 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d prefer a guy who has versatility to play in the slot and outside but has some deep threat speed. Someone like Xavier worthy but i don’t know if I’d trust to take him in the second round when he’s 6’1 and is only 165 pounds. But he has great speed and i think he can play inside and out 

Mitchell is the guy and a seasoned receiver also a longhorn. The number two receiver for Ohio State looks solid also. Egbuka something like that.

I don't know if anyone could have expected Jason Kelce to continue improving at his age. At the very least, maybe a plateau and followed by a decline. He's defying all odds and playing at such a high level that it's easy to forget how good Cam Jurgens was at center and how high this team was on him being Kelce's replacement. I honestly can't tell you how he is at RG at this point in his career. Just as he was getting settled, he got hurt. Now he comes back and one of his first games is with Driscoll so you can't judge that performance on the same level as if LJ was out there.

There's going to be a day when Jason Kelce retires. I was almost certain that this would be his last year but he's not slowing down and he seems to be having the time of his life out there. The only thing that makes me think Jason Kelce would retire after this year is that he's got so much more going for him in his post-playing career that he might walk away despite still playing at a HOF level. 

Tyler Steen has T and G experience and it would be wise for the Eagles to test him across the line. If he shows that he can be a tackle in this league, you make sure you keep him there. My best case scenario with Steen is that he shows he can be a LT and Mailata moves over to RT in a few years. Until then, Steen can be OL6 playing across the line. 

Historically, the Eagles tend to like bigger guards. I can't see Jurgens being the long term solution at RG. He had to bulk up to get to 303, and that's after he bulked up from 250 to 290 while at Nebraska. I just don't think there's any more room for him to grow, nor do I think it's healthy and good for his body. He's not meant to be a 300 pounder. Cam Jurgens will be his best as a 290 pound center. 

So after all that rambling. Ideal situation, post Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson is:

LT-Tyler Steen, LG- Landon Dickerson, C- Cam Jurgens, RG not here yet, RT- Jordan Mailata

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d prefer a guy who has versatility to play in the slot and outside but has some deep threat speed. Someone like Xavier worthy but i don’t know if I’d trust to take him in the second round when he’s 6’1 and is only 165 pounds. But he has great speed and i think he can play inside and out 

I'm trying to get over this weight bias for WRs as Smitty is doing AOK and Tank Dell/Zay Flowers are doing well early.  

26 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if the eagles took a WR or TE in the second round. Goedert is going to be 30 at the end of 2024 and really nothing in the pipeline is very exciting. I also think with brown and smith, they really don’t have anything behind them that could give them another dynamic. We hoped Quez could but he’s not. I could see if a really good WR fell in the second round they make that move. Their 3 WR sets with goedert and a solid pass catching back would be ridiculous to cover. 

Malachi Corley and Johnny Wilson are intriguing with that second RD2 pick.

Jacob Cowling as a pure slot speedster at WR maybe in RD3-RD4.

38 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What’s the plan for Steen then - he seems to have some OT ability but not the length.

I’m not sure if there’s a 1st round type center in this draft, there are some good guards but again that blocks Steen’s ascension.

2024 same OL as 2023.  Steen as the primary OG backup.  Newly drafted OT in development

2025 Kelce retires.  Jurgens transitions to OC and Steen to RG.  Developmental IOL from Day 3 Second year of the drafted OT either behind Lan or replacing him

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't know if anyone could have expected Jason Kelce to continue improving at his age. At the very least, maybe a plateau and followed by a decline. He's defying all odds and playing at such a high level that it's easy to forget how good Cam Jurgens was at center and how high this team was on him being Kelce's replacement. I honestly can't tell you how he is at RG at this point in his career. Just as he was getting settled, he got hurt. Now he comes back and one of his first games is with Driscoll so you can't judge that performance on the same level as if LJ was out there.

There's going to be a day when Jason Kelce retires. I was almost certain that this would be his last year but he's not slowing down and he seems to be having the time of his life out there. The only thing that makes me think Jason Kelce would retire after this year is that he's got so much more going for him in his post-playing career that he might walk away despite still playing at a HOF level. 

Tyler Steen has T and G experience and it would be wise for the Eagles to test him across the line. If he shows that he can be a tackle in this league, you make sure you keep him there. My best case scenario with Steen is that he shows he can be a LT and Mailata moves over to RT in a few years. Until then, Steen can be OL6 playing across the line. 

Historically, the Eagles tend to like bigger guards. I can't see Jurgens being the long term solution at RG. He had to bulk up to get to 303, and that's after he bulked up from 250 to 290 while at Nebraska. I just don't think there's any more room for him to grow, nor do I think it's healthy and good for his body. He's not meant to be a 300 pounder. Cam Jurgens will be his best as a 290 pound center. 

So after all that rambling. Ideal situation, post Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson is:

LT-Tyler Steen, LG- Landon Dickerson, C- Cam Jurgens, RG not here yet, RT- Jordan Mailata

 

I think with the longevity of careers of great athletes that we have seen as of late (Brady, LeBron, Rodgers coming back a few months after tearing his achilles at 40 years old), it's pretty clear there is some wide spread HGH style substance use in professional sports. It's all about staying ahead of the testing.  Wouldn't shock me if the Kelce brothers were taking part in this all too.  

 

On your Jurgens staying at guard like Dickerson if Kelce returns then I could see the Eagles maybe using a late round pick on Zach Zinter and maybe groom him to be the future center as he recovers from his injury.  

Let's warmly welcome our newest member to the EMB

🖕

Deon Sanders at the Cowboys game on the sidelines with his favorite son, both looking like total clowns.  I wonder how Mike McCarthy feels having his eventual replacement there on the sidelines tonight.  

9 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Malachi Corley and Johnny Wilson are intriguing with that second RD2 pick.

Jacob Cowling as a pure slot speedster at WR maybe in RD3-RD4.

I love Jacob cowing. He goes to my alma mater. I’ve got to meet him. Awesome kid. Like you said he’s a slot. Arizona will use him all over the place, but I think at the next level where you’re gonna get the most effectiveness out of him is in the slot. Speed and shiftiness type guy. He’s really good. Reminds me of Dennis northcutt who went to Arizona years ago. amazing t-mac is so much better than him. He’s not eligible for this draft but that kid reminds me so much of Mike Evans. It’s unbelievable.
 

I don't have a lot of confidence the Seahawks can pull this one off but it would be huge if they did.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d prefer a guy who has versatility to play in the slot and outside but has some deep threat speed. Someone like Xavier worthy but i don’t know if I’d trust to take him in the second round when he’s 6’1 and is only 165 pounds. But he has great speed and i think he can play inside and out 

This draft is lining up to be LOADED with WR talent which makes me nervous. It's the kind of deep class that makes me think Howie will draft a WR in round 6 who he claims was round 4 talent but got pushed down due to the depth, rather than getting the top of the line talent.

If the draft was today, the Eagles have:

Round 1- pick 32

Round 2- pick 44 and 64

Round 6- pick 193

Their draft ammo is limited this year and they have needs across the board. However, there's then the comp pick formula and the Brian Johnson puzzle piece. There's wind swirling that he's a hot candidate for a HC job and there will be jobs a plenty so there's a very good chance the Eagles get a 2024 and 2025 3rd round pick. If the comp picks are awarded at the current projections AND BJ gets a HC job, the Eagles draft picks are as follows.

Round 1- Pick 32

Round 2- pick 44 and pick 64

Round 3- pick 108 (projected comp pick) pick 102 (BJ)

Round 5- pick 170, 171 and 178 (all projected comp picks)

Round 6- pick 193

If the comp picks and BJ all actually happen, the Eagles go from 4 to 9 draft picks which you don't need me to tell you is a substantial difference. Those extra picks would give Howie all the ammo he needs to move up and down the draft as he pleases. He could easily package the Eagles 1st and a 3rd to jump up 6-8 spots in the 1st if a player falls. Or he could potentially turn the Eagles 1st in to a future 1st and maybe a 2024 2nd or 3rd. 

With all that being said, they can't wait for a WR. They might even need to add more than 1. The only Eagles WR under contract after this year are AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith. They need young talent that can step in and not just take up snaps but actually be good if heaven for bid there's an injury. 

They are going to have to sign a WR or two as well. While I'd love to see them go for a guy like Gabriel Davis, Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman Jr., I just don't see that happening. Would OZ come back knowing he might catch 12-17 balls? What about Mack Hollins? He's going to be 31 but offers a big body and a ST guy. Donovan Peoples-Jones, KJ Osbourn and Devon Duvernay are all guys who might make sense too.

Then there's TE, but this post is already too long.

2 hours ago, Joe Ball said:

Hopefully the stream is solid tonight.

Prostate issues?