Saw it mentioned they ran a cheat front with wide 9s and had their dbs down to help In run support. Wonder if that was messing up our combo blocks

2 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Occam's Razor - The OL and Swift really aren't as good as they're made out to be.

I've said it before. Just go get a fullback. That is ALL you need to do. This is largely a byproduct of not having enough bodies in certain scenarios. Did you not notice how on some critical runs, McCaffrey was blocking for Deebo Samuel? This is a VERY important observation to notice and to understand. It allowed them to get certain favorable matchups near the edge and that's why they were getting good runs out there. With Kelce AND a fullback AND Goedert we can do similar.

NFL defenses are no longer designed in ways that allow them to handle these combinations consistently. That's why the 49ers do that so well.

We're used to our OL being able to handle multiple people, especially Kelce. But in reality, most other teams never had that to begin with. Us having to scheme up things doesn't mean we're bad, it just means we're normal. That's what the 49ers were doing all game and do every game. Scheming things up.

Shanahan pretty much makes Brock Purdy play NFL Quarterback as little as possible. He wants him not making mistakes on reads and to let the system do the work for him. I'm NOT saying he's a system QB, I'm saying Shanahan MAKES QBs be system QBs while playing in his system.

We need to scheme players up more. Shanahan and Reid in particular are kind of silly good at it.

1 hour ago, bitbased said:

Bradley and Hicks were solid additions when they played but didn't stick because of injury issues. Seems like Dean is already trending that direction.

Yup.  But, both were sort of known quantities to be injury risks, which is why they lasted as long as they did.  

I'm not blaming the refs for the L, but how do they not call this? Geeez

 

4 minutes ago, RunItBAck said:

stop trying to make it seem like it was a "bad" game... they got destroyed in every facet of the game. 

It is not unreasonable to take into account 3 games in 13 days against top teams. The team looked exhausted. Like they had about 1 quarter of gas in the tank and then couldn't tackle. I'm not sure how they beat SF but I would say part of the reason for the blowout could be attributed to the recent grind of the schedule. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  But, both were sort of known quantities to be injury risks, which is why they lasted as long as they did.  

100%. Still sucks. 

Even Nigel Bradham lost his mind. Kendricks became an insider trader.

There's bad luck there too

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Be bad. 

Ah... I thought you were saying he stood out in a good way.   My mistake.   Yes, he hasn't impressed me at all.  And I find it funny that people point to him and Jobe/Ringo as pieces that allow us to not go for a CB early in the draft.   Nothing I've seen would indicate that any of them are anything more than a JAG, and that's at their best so far.  They are young, but youth by itself doesn't mean anything.  Joey Porter Jr is also young, and he might be a top 5 CB in the NFL right now.   Seems that CBs don't need as much time to acclimate to the league as other positions, at least not the top guys.   And that's what this team desperately lacks right now.   We have bodies at CB, not talent.  Even our expensive CBs are more bodies than they are talented.  

1 minute ago, Captain F said:

I'm not blaming the refs for the L, but how do they not call this? Geeez

 

Ref's ate their whistles most of the game except of course when SF needed another down and called a phantom offsides. That was a sketchy call. 

3 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I've said it before. Just go get a fullback. That is ALL you need to do. This is largely a byproduct of not having enough bodies in certain scenarios. Did you not notice how on some critical runs, McCaffrey was blocking for Deebo Samuel? This is a VERY important observation to notice and to understand. It allowed them to get certain favorable matchups near the edge and that's why they were getting good runs out there. With Kelce AND a fullback AND Goedert we can do similar.

NFL defenses are no longer designed in ways that allow them to handle these combinations consistently. That's why the 49ers do that so well.

We're used to our OL being able to handle multiple people, especially Kelce. But in reality, most other teams never had that to begin with. Us having to scheme up things doesn't mean we're bad, it just means we're normal. That's what the 49ers were doing all game and do every game. Scheming things up.

Shanahan pretty much makes Brock Purdy play NFL Quarterback as little as possible. He wants him not making mistakes on reads and to let the system do the work for him. I'm NOT saying he's a system QB, I'm saying Shanahan MAKES QBs be system QBs while playing in his system.

We need to scheme players up more. Shanahan and Reid in particular are kind of silly good at it.

I don’t entirely agree, but at least the 11th player on offense would do something in that scenario.

2 minutes ago, Captain F said:

I'm not blaming the refs for the L, but how do they not call this? Geeez

 

There was a blatant hold on Morrow by their OG on the McCaffrey TD run as well.  Unfortunately, part of being a winning team is not get into a position where the officials can screw you.  I didn't really think Sweat was in the neutral zone on the 3rd down play that turned their first drive from a FG into a TD, but the official is right on the LOS so I'll have to trust he wasn't blind.  

Just now, Captain F said:

I'm not blaming the refs for the L, but how do they not call this? Geeez

 

The refs let the players play - and the 9ers were the more physical football team yesterday.  

Brock Purdy just might have the inside track on NFL MVP.

1 hour ago, NYEagle said:

Honestly, take emotion out of it....the Dallas game doesn't really matter in regards to our playoff seeding.  Stay with me, Dallas wins and we are both 10-3....we have Seattle, Giants, Cardinals, Giants.  Dallas has Bills, Dolphins, Lions, Commanders.  If we don't have a better record after those 4 games each, then the Eagles don't deserve anything.  And I've made the argument that it is almost and I'd say almost better to have the #2 seed.  If it plays out the way I think, if you get the #2 seed, you'd still have two games at home (at least) and Dallas and the 49'ers would have to play in the Divisional Round.  

Panic was something I used to feel with this team BEFORE they finally won a Super Bowl.  Now, I'm able to be a lot more level-headed about things, relax and just enjoy this for what it is, entertainment.

Win out after Dallas, and we have the tiebreaker over them.  It really comes down to the 49ers losing a game if the Eagles lose this week.   (I think it's basically a foregone conclusion that Detroit will drop at least one more game.) 

Eagles have tiebreaker on Dallas in that scenario due to conference record.  They lost to AZ, whereas the Eagles lost to NYJ.

Detroit probably won't beat Dallas, so there's their one loss.  But, they also have some tougher matchups against the Vikings (twice) and Broncos (who have turned their season around).   I think its very likely the Lions end up with 5 losses, minimum.

I need some serious schadenfreude to get over that abomination 

 

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The Patriots are the first team in the Super Bowl era to lose three straight games all while allowing 10 or fewer points. To find the last time this occurred, you have to go all the way back to the 1938 season when the Chicago Cardinals lost three straight in the same fashion. 

The Patriots fell to the Colts 10-6 in Germany back in Week 10, had a bye in Week 11 and then lost 10-7 to the Giants in Week 12 before this latest defeat against Los Angeles. 

 

Ahhh.... that's better.

18 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t entirely agree, but at least the 11th player on offense would do something in that scenario.

Most spread teams motion their TE to or at a minimum line them up near the gap they want to run to. A true FB is nearly non existent in the spread. Unless you are going to line up under center. I haven't looked for that specifically but I don't recall seeing a lot of motion or a TE lined up in the backfield as even an H back.

2 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Ref's ate their whistles most of the game except of course when SF needed another down and called a phantom offsides. That was a sketchy call. 

I think I saw a screenshot where Sweat was lined up even with the rest of the DL and on the rotten replay angle provided he didn't jump - so I'm thinking a bad call there that cost the team 4 points (but not the game).

On the positive side, Lane put the clamps on Bosa again and Mailata shut down Chase Young. It felt like the both of them were pretty much non-factors in the pass rush. Hurts was well protected. 

Just now, BDawk_ASamuel said:

On the positive side, Lane put the clamps on Bosa again and Mailata shut down Chase Young. It felt like the both of them were pretty much non-factors in the pass rush. Hurts was well protected. 

I mean that is a plus point but then the offense still had struggles. So shutting down their pass rush but still struggling doesn’t bode well.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

There was a blatant hold on Morrow by their OG on the McCaffrey TD run as well.  Unfortunately, part of being a winning team is not get into a position where the officials can screw you.  I didn't really think Sweat was in the neutral zone on the 3rd down play that turned their first drive from a FG into a TD, but the official is right on the LOS so I'll have to trust he wasn't blind.  

He was blind or wanted to give the niners another down.  There was screenshot posted last night that's showed that Sweat was not offsides.

Every damn long run they had there was a hold in the hole.  Followed by Olsen saying what a great block it was 🤦‍♂️

41 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

The eagles have two losses the next closest teams have 3 (off top of my head niners/lions). If the eagles win out including Dallas they keep #1 seed. 

Yes.   I was responding to the fear of losing to Dallas and that impact.   Losing to Dallas means NOTHING in terms of the division or the 2 seed if the Eagles handle their business elsewhere.  I've said it for weeks, the most important game on the schedule was the 49ers game.   That was the one in the gauntlet that they really needed to have, more than any other single game.    They won against the Chiefs AND Bills, where I had them splitting before the season, so that helps with the overall record... but tiebreaker wise... the 49ers was the big one.  The Eagles have no margin for error now to retain the 1 seed, unless the 49ers falter.  (I am assuming at least 1, likely 2 more losses from Detroit.). BUT, they do still have that margin for error as it pertains to Dallas.  They are the lesser concern.   If the Eagles lose Sunday, Dallas will flip flop the tiebreaker, for the time being... but it will flip back by the end of the season if both win out from there.

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Win out after Dallas, and we have the tiebreaker over them.  It really comes down to the 49ers losing a game if the Eagles lose this week.   (I think it's basically a foregone conclusion that Detroit will drop at least one more game.) 

Eagles have tiebreaker on Dallas in that scenario due to conference record.  They lost to AZ, whereas the Eagles lost to NYJ.

Detroit probably won't beat Dallas, so there's their one loss.  But, they also have some tougher matchups against the Vikings (twice) and Broncos (who have turned their season around).   I think its very likely the Lions end up with 5 losses, minimum.

While I think a bye week is crucial a number 2 seed wouldn’t be so bad. IF the eagles were somehow (not holding my breath) to become a competent team they would avoid playing both SF and Dallas (I don’t see DALL losing to ATL) in playoffs. 

14 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Saw it mentioned they ran a cheat front with wide 9s and had their dbs down to help In run support. Wonder if that was messing up our combo blocks

Makes me nostalgic for the Blount days.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Win out after Dallas, and we have the tiebreaker over them.  It really comes down to the 49ers losing a game if the Eagles lose this week.   (I think it's basically a foregone conclusion that Detroit will drop at least one more game.) 

Eagles have tiebreaker on Dallas in that scenario due to conference record.  They lost to AZ, whereas the Eagles lost to NYJ.

Detroit probably won't beat Dallas, so there's their one loss.  But, they also have some tougher matchups against the Vikings (twice) and Broncos (who have turned their season around).   I think its very likely the Lions end up with 5 losses, minimum.

Eagels definitely still control their own destiny. It was one game. The league overall this year seems to have much more parity than the past few years and anything is possible but my prediction for the NFCE and NFCW hasnot changed and will not change...It will be the Eagels and the Niners...which one gets the #1 seed is the only unknown, the other will get the #2 seed, Detroit gets #3 likely, and then of course the NFCS #4.

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Brock Purdy just might have the inside track on NFL MVP.

Looks that way as of now. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

It’s amazing to me that Ricks only played 5 snaps. He really stood out in those limited reps. 

Yes because they were either big plays or TDs to Jennings