43 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not sure how comfortable Hurts is passing from under center. We could at least add more pistol so the defense has to honor the RB’s two-way go a little bit more. 

Let’s tie together pistol, 12 personnel (Zertz) and Penny into one story:

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

Let’s tie together pistol, 12 personnel (Zertz) and Penny into one story:

That would be something. 

Some of the reaction to the loss has overall, been a bit dramatic and still is.

The team are 4 games into a 5 game slate where they are playing oppositions who will likely be in the playoffs and win a game in the playoffs.  They played an OT game after a short week last week, with the D playing a record number of snaps - both games were played in not ideal weather, especially the OT one.

The team then play a team coming off of 10 days rest, a team who have spent the entire offseason stewing about the ass whooping they took in the playoffs last year.

The Birds now travel to Dallas, who are also coming off of 10 days rest and then go to Seattle the week after with a late change of date.  In an 8 game stretch right now, they will have played 1 team with a losing record and 1 team at .500.  No beating up on bad teams at home or a chance for players to have a reduced snap count. It's relentless.

The players and coaches need to be a lot better and that goes without saying, but they were never ever winning all 5 games in that slate. Never. The Eagles are very much entitled to look at the NFL head office and feel aggrieved about the schedule they were given.  It maybe good for ratings, but the players are feeling that right now.

10 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Some of the reaction to the loss has overall, been a bit dramatic and still is.

The team are 4 games into a 5 game slate where they are playing oppositions who will likely be in the playoffs and win a game in the playoffs.  They played an OT game after a short week last week, with the D playing a record number of snaps - both games were played in not ideal weather, especially the OT one.

The team then play a team coming off of 10 days rest, a team who have spent the entire offseason stewing about the ass whooping they took in the playoffs last year.

The Birds now travel to Dallas, who are also coming off of 10 days rest and then go to Seattle the week after with a late change of date.  In an 8 game stretch right now, they will have played 1 team with a losing record and 1 team at .500.  No beating up on bad teams at home or a chance for players to have a reduced snap count. It's relentless.

The players and coaches need to be a lot better and that goes without saying, but they were never ever winning all 5 games in that slate. Never. The Eagles are very much entitled to look at the NFL head office and feel aggrieved about the schedule they were given.  It maybe good for ratings, but the players are feeling that right now.

The reason for the reaction, was because the players were physically overmatched in their own house.  No one wanted to tackle...THey ran over our D..... They strong armed our WR's honestly felt a lot like when the Panthers manhandled Pinkston etc in the NFCCG.....   

Hard to feel excited about a team you just watched get man handled, bullied and ran over. 

if we see that team again in the playoffs, which we likely will, it's not an over reaction to think it will be a similar result. 

If the Eagles had lost a close game? Yeah there would stillbe hope. Thats not what happened. 

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

The reason for the reaction, was because the players were physically overmatched in their own house.  No one wanted to tackle...THey ran over our D..... They strong armed our WR's honestly felt a lot like when the Panthers manhandled Pinkston etc in the NFCCG.....   

Hard to feel excited about a team you just watched get man handled, bullied and ran over. 

if we see that team again in the playoffs, which we likely will, it's not an over reaction to think it will be a similar result. 

If the Eagles had lost a close game? Yeah there would stillbe hope. Thats not what happened. 

The NFL is a week to week league, sometimes match ups are just bad.  I remember when the Eagles won the Super Bowl, once the Vikings got lucky on that walk off TD by Diggs vs. the Saints, I knew we were going.  Wanted no part of the Saints.  We don't know what's going to happen.  What if Purdy gets hurt?  What if we get the 2 seed, Dallas goes into SF in the Divisional Round and beats SF.  There are still waaaaaaay too many games left and too much to happen to worry about playing SF again.  

4 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

The NFL is a week to week league, sometimes match ups are just bad.  I remember when the Eagles won the Super Bowl, once the Vikings got lucky on that walk off TD by Diggs vs. the Saints, I knew we were going.  Wanted no part of the Saints.  We don't know what's going to happen.  What if Purdy gets hurt?  What if we get the 2 seed, Dallas goes into SF in the Divisional Round and beats SF.  There are still waaaaaaay too many games left and too much to happen to worry about playing SF again.  

SO we need them to get injured for the Eagles to be able to play with them?  

Yeah anything can happen, but both teams full strength- we aren't beating them .... not with this defense, and our Coordinators

8 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Some of the reaction to the loss has overall, been a bit dramatic and still is.

The team are 4 games into a 5 game slate where they are playing oppositions who will likely be in the playoffs and win a game in the playoffs.  They played an OT game after a short week last week, with the D playing a record number of snaps - both games were played in not ideal weather, especially the OT one.

The team then play a team coming off of 10 days rest, a team who have spent the entire offseason stewing about the ass whooping they took in the playoffs last year.

The Birds now travel to Dallas, who are also coming off of 10 days rest and then go to Seattle the week after with a late change of date.  In an 8 game stretch right now, they will have played 1 team with a losing record and 1 team at .500.  No beating up on bad teams at home or a chance for players to have a reduced snap count. It's relentless.

The players and coaches need to be a lot better and that goes without saying, but they were never ever winning all 5 games in that slate. Never. The Eagles are very much entitled to look at the NFL head office and feel aggrieved about the schedule they were given.  It maybe good for ratings, but the players are feeling that right now.

It’s fans watching the games and judging their team honestly, yea they’re 10-2, and if Pontoon Boat Ron goes for 2 before the OT, plus Scantling doesn’t drop the TD pass, the Eagles are 8-4, then add in Buffalo and Dallas.

  It’s a brutal part of the schedule but the pass defense is now ranked 28th?  30th?   They gave up 6 straight TD drives and the Eagles, at 10-1 were home underdogs, first time that’s happened to any 10-1 team since the early 70’s.    Let’s not even mention how Sam Howell is a HOF’er against the defense, Howell btw is part of reason they were home underdogs, oddsmakers aren’t giving them respect because even they know this team smoke and mirrored itself to 10-1.  

 

38 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

SO we need them to get injured for the Eagles to be able to play with them?  

Yeah anything can happen, but both teams full strength- we aren't beating them .... not with this defense, and our Coordinators

I’m not sure about that.  The Eagles got a good look at what they were doing on offense.  I highly doubt they would have the same success after adjustments, etc. 

Another thing to note is that although time of possession was almost the same this game - it was mostly due to us going 3 and out often and then the 49ers going right down the field and scoring.  And we gained some of that TOP back in garbage time to make it look more even.  In order to beat the 49ers we need to keep their offense off the field and wear down their defense by keeping our offense on the field.  (Which would keep our defense fresh - which is key for this type of defense to work optimally) 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I’m not sure about that.  The Eagles got a good look at what they were doing on offense.  I highly doubt they would have the same success after adjustments, etc. 

Another thing to note is that although time of possession was almost the same this game - it was mostly due to us going 3 and out often and then the 49ers going right down the field and scoring.  And we gained some of that TOP back in garbage time to make it look more even.  In order to beat the 49ers we need to keep their offense off the field and wear down their defense by keeping our offense on the field.  

That and the Eagles had the ball for about 12 minutes of the 1st quarter... but only 6 points to show for it.

 

The Eagles owned the first quarter, but the Eagles only won that quarter 6-0.   The 49ers owned the last 3 quarters, and took those 42-13.  Statistically though, everything was in the Eagles' favor at the end of the first quarter.  At that point the 49ers had a TOTAL of -6 yards of offense, and had only run 6 plays.  After that... well, that's all I have to say about that.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not sure how comfortable Hurts is passing from under center. We could at least add more pistol so the defense has to honor the RB’s two-way go a little bit more. 

There are just so many more types of runs under pistol. Under-center also doesn't tell us which way it's going.

Hurts IMO is also a better scrambler than designed runner too. 

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

If he wins that wpupd incentives him to play another year so he can rock that patch.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I know, but it seems like empty yards sometimes. In these games they struggle, it just feels like they have no plan on how to get these guys the ball. They are still getting the ball but IMO, they could be worlds better.

Look at AJ Brown and the slant. The play looks unstoppable but the only thing stopping it is the Eagles because they stop calling it. We know the RB screen can work but the Eagles don't call it. They rely on dump offs that might get 4 yards. 

I just feel like despite their great stats, the Eagles stars are being misused. 

The San Fran game was literally the only stat padding game they've had all season, and no WR that's ever played the game has ever been World's better than 1700 yards in a year which is more or less what AJ is pacing for.

We won 10 games including a lot against play off level opponents, then we got a smack in the mouth off a deep run playoff level opponent coming off a 10 day break.

I mean damn, Dallas fans walking round like they King Turd on the crap heap because they've gone 9-3 off the easiest schedule in 10 years and we're wanting to tear the whole thing down off the back of one bad game.

I've moved on.  If we see the 49ers again, that will be the rubber match.   They need to sweep Dallas and end their home winning streak.   

1 minute ago, KINGnabb said:

I've moved on.  If we see the 49ers again, that will be the rubber match.   They need to sweep Dallas and end their home winning streak.   

Crazy that Dallas has won so many games at home. Gotta be some home cooking going on to be that dominant. Going to have to blow Dallas out to leave no margin of error for the refs to do something silly.

Just now, KINGnabb said:

I've moved on.  If we see the 49ers again, that will be the rubber match.   They need to sweep Dallas and end their home winning streak.   

That's where I am. Just a terrible game and horrible matchup all the way around. Eagles coming off back to back games of heavy snaps for the defense, 2 emotional wins, SF having extra rest and revenge factor. You could see after a strong start the Eagles simply hit the wall and SF ran away with it. The tackling issues were awful and something we haven't seen this year. 

Have to get it together to play another team with a rest advantage this week. If we can get it done, 4-1 in this 5 game stretch would be a homerun.

People are afraid of their own shadows when they look at San Francisco.  There just aren't any teams that are demonstrably better than everyone else this season.  The Niners lost Deebo and Trent Williams for a three-game stretch and went L-L-L, against CLE (without Watson), MIN, and CIN -- not exactly a murderer's row of teams.  

Any rematch could easily go in the Eagles' favor.  Goedert will be in the lineup, my assumption is a rematch wouldn't be our 3rd game in 14 days while they've had a 10-day break, and maybe -- just maybe -- the officiating crew would decide to call the obvious holds on their OL and illegal contact on their secondary.  A lot to ask, I know.  SF is obviously coached towards infraction on every play, knowing that the officials will not call everything.

I'd still be quite surprised if the NFC title game isn't a rematch between these two teams.  DAL is still essentially two games behind the Eagles for the division right now.  The SEA game is huge; if the Eagles don't get a win in DAL then they cannot afford to lose any of their last 4 games against teams they should beat.  I can't see the Giants or Cards pulling an upset, so SEA is the big game.  

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

That's where I am. Just a terrible game and horrible matchup all the way around. Eagles coming off back to back games of heavy snaps for the defense, 2 emotional wins, SF having extra rest and revenge factor. You could see after a strong start the Eagles simply hit the wall and SF ran away with it. The tackling issues were awful and something we haven't seen this year. 

Have to get it together to play another team with a rest advantage this week. If we can get it done, 4-1 in this 5 game stretch would be a homerun.

 

I'll admit that the Gauntlet finally took it's toll.  But I'm still proud of the guys.   Before the Season many off us thought either the KC or Bills was going to be a loss.  But they got through that.  Also some earlier thought we were going to lose to Miami for sure.  But they passed every test.   The Birds were living on the edge in all these Thrillers and i guess this just wasn't their night.   They came out flat and had an off night.  San Fran was obsessed with getting us back.  They can have this one.   But this wasn't the playoffs.  We didn't get a ring back for beating KC.   

23 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The San Fran game was literally the only stat padding game they've had all season, and no WR that's ever played the game has ever been World's better than 1700 yards in a year which is more or less what AJ is pacing for.

We won 10 games including a lot against play off level opponents, then we got a smack in the mouth off a deep run playoff level opponent coming off a 10 day break.

I mean damn, Dallas fans walking round like they King Turd on the crap heap because they've gone 9-3 off the easiest schedule in 10 years and we're wanting to tear the whole thing down off the back of one bad game.

It isn't that they lost it's how. The 49ers dominated them. Absolutely dominated the defense and there is no way to fix it this year.  They have the formula and no adjustments will overcome the lack of talent in the back 7. We have to root for injuries to have a shot...and that Dallas won't exploit it Sunday because losing the BYE and 1 seed seals their fate.

So being realistic we need injuries to the 49ers or the season is over. That's why the loss is different. 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

That's where I am. Just a terrible game and horrible matchup all the way around. Eagles coming off back to back games of heavy snaps for the defense, 2 emotional wins, SF having extra rest and revenge factor. You could see after a strong start the Eagles simply hit the wall and SF ran away with it. The tackling issues were awful and something we haven't seen this year. 

Have to get it together to play another team with a rest advantage this week. If we can get it done, 4-1 in this 5 game stretch would be a homerun.

I think we hope that's why but realistically they made adjustments the Eagles can't match 

12 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

I've moved on.  If we see the 49ers again, that will be the rubber match.   They need to sweep Dallas and end their home winning streak.   

It will say alot if they can go into Dallas and win.  It's something they haven't done in awhile. 

I'm not expecting them to win if they are just going to let Dak sit back there and let Lamb run free all game.  I'd like to see them be aggressive and pressure Dak more.

12 minutes ago, judunno said:

Crazy that Dallas has won so many games at home. Gotta be some home cooking going on to be that dominant. Going to have to blow Dallas out to leave no margin of error for the refs to do something silly.

Alot of wins probably came from NFC East opposition as the division hasn't been very good outside of Dallas and Philly. 

I can't remember the last time they beat a really good team in Dallas.

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

We have a catch 22 situation on our hands with this defense. Because we have seen them make incredible adjustments to completely shot down Puca and Kupp after initially being gashed. And followed that up by dismantling the Miami offensive passing attack. And really kept Mahommes at bay. 

As bad as coverage looks, they can deal with dynamic WRs well enough to win a shootout. Josh Allen had a big time game and the D made enough plays to let the offense come from behind. 

 

While theyve figured out how to deal with the passing attacks in the AFC (super bowl opponents) well enough (not good, but well enough), theyve gotten worse at matching up with SF, so now its questionable if they even get back the the super bowl at all. 

 

This team just got beat at the point of attack.  They could not tackle for crap.  It wasn't about scheme or a lack of adjustments.  It was just a shitting of the bed.  

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Alot of wins probably came from NFC East opposition as the division hasn't been very good outside of Dallas and Philly. 

I can't remember the last time they beat a really good team in Dallas.

Last time we beat a good Dallas team down there would be 2007. The Westbrook sitting down at the 1 yard line game. Dallas was the 1 seed that year. The year before would be the last time we swept them when they were a playoff team.