49 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

How do 3 and outs usually end?

With tears and uncontrollable wailing. 

46 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The issue is really you cannot become one dimensional against that 49ers defense. You make it easier for them and harder on yourself. Once they don’t  have to respect the fact that you’re gonna run the football it’s an uphill battle and makes the eagles easier to defend. It’s why they’d mashed the cowboys, jags, eagles in those games. When you are missing goedert and become one dimensional it is even worse. You don’t have reliable pass catchers outside of smith and brown. So the niners after the first quarter adjusted and slowed down Aj and the eagles didn’t go to the plays Aj runs well til later in the game.

let me point out browns beat the niners. The first quarter of the game vs. 49ers they ran 8 times with their RBs for 23 yards (2.87 yards per carry). Stuck with the run game and rest of the game their rbs were 108 on 21 attempts for 5.14 yards per carry. They should’ve lost but they were able to keep that game within reach with pj walker at Qb by keeping themselves balanced and not one dimensional. Vikings didn’t exactly kill it in the run game vs. Niners but they ran it with Akers and Mattison 18 times for 3.8 yards per carry. The bengals game was an asswhopping for the niners. They couldn’t stop pass or run. 

If Hurts had a better game, I think they would have moved the ball easier passing it.  It was clear early on that he wasn't seeing the field well.  They needed to adjust to his performance as well.  

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The run the ball thing frustrates me.  The OL has not been reliably opening holes in the running game.  We have one good back who is presently injured.

This isn’t a particularly good running team.  

And back to your previous post, which I agree with...The DL, who they've invested in heavily isn't getting it done. The OL, who many tout as the best in the NFL, with God himself as the OL coach can't open holes for their RB?

Why are the two heaviest invested positions not getting it done? 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

With tears and uncontrollable wailing. 

Alcohol

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Honestly, Jimmy has one of the most condescending personalities in the media that he pushed off as humor for a long time. Calling someone a moron isn't a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but when you have to resort to calling someone a moron in a tweet, that tells me more about the person tweeting. His stick figure drawings always make me laugh but otherwise, his whole schtick wore off and I can't take anything he says seriously. 

I can see how he’d rub you the wrong way, but he does a pretty good job of having the pulse of the team. 

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We were down 21-6 before even touching the ball in the second half. And when we did touch the ball, we ran once and threw 10 straight times to cut the lead to 21-13. Then started the next drive with a run and a 3 and out. And then passed the whole next drive and scored a TD again.

Yup. 

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just one. 

No.  There were a total of 5 Eagles drives (including the two 3 and outs) that led to non-scores.  The final, meaningless drive, may have not been "short" but it was in garbage time and the 49ers were in prevent defense mode.

And If going 2nd and 8 and 2nd and 10 on the two drives they went 3 and out on (when they ran on 1st down), constitutes them completely giving up on the run, then there are indeed major scheme issues. 

How anyone can use that as some sort of "justification" to turn our offense into a one-dimensional, pass only offense, against a defense like the 49ers, is mind boggling, in my humble opinion.  

 

 

 

Just now, NCiggles said:

If Hurts had a better game, I think they would have moved the ball easier passing it.  It was clear early on that he wasn't seeing the field well.  They needed to adjust to his performance as well.  

That goes to another point I made an a post a couple post back. You’re not getting consistent 2022 Jalen hurts. You’re getting Jalen hurts who is that for a quarter, half or a couple series. And other times making a bad decision to throw or not seeing the entire field. You cannot be a one dimensional team if Jalen hurts isn’t gonna play like 2022 or SB Jalen hurts. Cause it’s too inconsistent to compete with a team like SF. That’s the elephant in the room. You could be a one dimensional offense if he plays like in the Super Bowl or most of 2022. But if he’s gonna be inconsistent with what we’ve seen since the fourth quarter against Dallas, then you’re going to have an offensive performance like you did vs. sf. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 pass offense inconsistent since 4th quarter vs. Dallas will do that. They look good for a series and then revert back eventually cause they are inconsistent. Before niners game was usually a big run by swift that would jumpstart the offense. When you have to solely rely on just passing the football against the no. 1 defense in the league you are only gonna wind up scoring 19 points (frankly 6 were basically garbage time points as down 35-13 with 6 mins left in the 4th quarter) and having more punts than successful scoring drives.

i’m gonna make this really simple. You are not beating the San Francisco 49ers being a one dimensional offense. Point blank. The 3 losses the niners had were teams having some sort run attack along with their passing attack. Steve Wilks might not be a great head coach but he’s a damn good defensive coordinator with great talent on that defense. Hard time seeing with their pass rush, talent and his experience just letting you pass the ball consistently to beat him.

This goes back to you have to fix your running game and get it going. Whether that’s better blocking, backs doing a better job or schematically changing it up. Because you are going to get to San Francisco again and with an inconsistent passing offense you aren’t beating them being one dimensional. 

They failed the game in the 1st half. Not running in the second half didn't lose them the game. 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Alcohol

 

 

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We should have ran on third and long just to prove a point. 

Who doesn't love a good cowards draw?

34 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Crap. Not only do they have extra rest but if he’s out they’ll have competent coaching too 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I can see how he’d rub you the wrong way, but he does a pretty good job of having the pulse of the team. 

He does. We need to do a full ranking list of the Philly beat. Who do we think the best is?

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They failed the game in the 1st half. Not running in the second half didn't lose them the game. 

The second quarter is where they failed. you know what failed them in the second quarter besides the defense? The passing game. They were 2-6 for 14 total yards. And they easily could’ve had an interception but lucky it fell to the ground otherwise would’ve been down more 

So are we gonna ignore that the passing game ineptitude in the second quarter that was as dreadful as the running game and helped them get into a 21-6 hole? The defense sucked but the passing game was bad that quarter that contributed to the hole they found themselves in. which goes back to what I’ve been saying that you cannot be one dimensional with an inconsistent passing game. This whole i rather just throw it to brown and smith, well that killed you for a half against KC. A half against Buffalo. And basically 3 quarters of the game against the niners (no offense they had a td in garbage time and 109 yards after the game was essentially decided) 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The second quarter is where they failed. you know what failed them in the second quarter besides the defense? The passing game. They were 2-6 for 14 yards. And they easily could’ve  had an interception but lucky it fell to the ground.

So are we gonna ignore that the passing game ineptitude in the second quarter that was as dreadful as the running game and helped them get into a 21-6 hole? The defense sucked but the passing game was bad that quarter that contributed to the hole they found themselves in. 

I don’t think anyone is ignoring that the passing offense sucked in the second quarter, but we don’t think the answer to helping the offense was more runs either. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

I don’t think anyone is ignoring that the passing offense sucked in the second quarter, but we don’t think the answer to helping the offense was more runs either. 

What would have helped the offense?  And what would have helped the defense?  

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t think anyone is ignoring that the passing offense sucked in the second quarter, but we don’t think the answer to helping the offense was more runs either. 

Well, it definitely wasn’t more passes in that quarter. Because that seemingly didn’t work.

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

No.  There were a total of 5 Eagles drives (including the two 3 and outs) that led to non-scores.  The final, meaningless drive, may have not been "short" but it was in garbage time and the 49ers were in prevent defense mode.

And If going 2nd and 8 and 2nd and 10 on the two drives they went 3 and out on (when they ran on 1st down), constitutes them completely giving up on the run, then there are indeed major scheme issues. 

How anyone can use that as some sort of "justification" to turn our offense into a one-dimensional, pass only offense, against a defense like the 49ers, is mind boggling, in my humble opinion.  

 

 

 

I'm not counting the final drive because they were down 42-19. They are obviously passing. And even still it was 10 plays and 55 yards, that's not "short". The other drive was when they gave up before halftime with 2 plays they clearly weren't trying to do anything. So, yea, it was just one drive, 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The second quarter is where they failed. you know what failed them in the second quarter besides the defense? The passing game. They were 2-6 for 14 total yards. And they easily could’ve had an interception but lucky it fell to the ground otherwise would’ve been down more 

So are we gonna ignore that the passing game ineptitude in the second quarter that was as dreadful as the running game and helped them get into a 21-6 hole? The defense sucked but the passing game was bad that quarter that contributed to the hole they found themselves in. which goes back to what I’ve been saying that you cannot be one dimensional with an inconsistent passing game. This whole i rather just throw it to brown and smith, well that killed you for a half against KC. A half against Buffalo. And basically 3 quarters of the game against the niners (no offense they had a td in garbage time and 109 yards after the game was essentially decided) 

2nd quarter would be the first half, which I already said. 

The bigger, not talked about issue is the failure in the redzone in the first quarter.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Well, it definitely wasn’t more passes in that quarter. Because that seemingly didn’t work.

If only we sprinkled magical 2 yard run dust onto those drives. That definitely would have worked. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

What would have helped the offense?  And what would have helped the defense?  

Scoring points. Finishing red zone drives with touchdowns. 

Or a couple of 2 yard runs, obviously. 

3 hours ago, Maga301 said:

Hurts needs to trust Smith more, the middle of the field is open, Smith has his guy beat and no one can break off to break up the play. We are lacking in all phases. Some plays break down because the O-Line gets beat, some plays Hurts is just doing too much, some plays Hurts throws to AJ in double coverage but someone else is open for an easy first down. These things should've been cleaned up weeks ago. Watch film and make adjustments. 

Don't get me wrong, Brown is a beast and comes down with some contested catches, but the same trust should be had in Smitty. His route running alone gets him open. 

Hurts has to do a better job - and so do others, but last year we were capitalizing on these plays and our offense was efficient. This year we're struggling. 

Hurts has been forcing the ball to AJ all year.

Maybe the passing game would work better if the QB didn't hold the ball so damn long or trip and lose 15 yards. The scheme could be better too, but until they fix the run game, the pass game is working better right now than the run.

We were 0/10 in rushing success on run plays that don’t include sneaks. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If only we sprinkled magical 2 yard run dust onto those drives. That definitely would have worked. 

Yes cause the inconsistent passing game for last 3 weeks was going to magically become more consistent by becoming one dimensional against the no. 1 defense in the league.