55 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Gross. If you get 50 for the Eagles it means you're a veteran LB being depended on to save a season and it's the only number we have left. It's happened before. 

30 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Look, no one in here are arguing to run every play. But 9 RB runs in a game...

What number would you have been OK with at 2-3 yards a carry and when the defense clearly was getting boat races?

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Here's the video of AJ answering Eskin's question. Between this, the non-stop of analysts calling them frauds, and the insane take by Carr about Jalen...I think there's a chance these guys come out on fire. Hopefully they aren't too fired up.

 

 

Good thoughts, now go and and show it.

Play well and beat the Cowboys and things look great.  Lose to the Cowboys - or even win with another "ugly" win and people are still talking.  The rest of the season gets easier although the Seahawks are a good enough team.  The last 3 games *should* be easy but if they don't bounce back against Dallas people will think they're frauds, and that might get into their minds too much.

You want to go into the playoffs being the hot team and ready mentally.  It might hurt them in a sense to end with 3 weak teams. They need to step things up.

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

I think the defense isn’t very good but definitely was gassed as the 91 snaps the previous game caught up to them. Unless the eagles offense was going to sustain ball control offense of 12:57 to 2:03 like the first quarter, the dam was eventually breaking due to personnel and compounding that with the amount of snaps they played vs. bills. 

The offense I think just misses Dallas Goedert. Because it’s much harder to defend AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith when you have a pass catcher like Dallas Goedert in the middle of the field. Add on he is good in run blocking.

23 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

lol well that is where he is going. He has the CA connection and they are going to win a ring.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

What number would you have been OK with at 2-3 yards a carry and when the defense clearly was getting boat races?

20

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

What number would you have been OK with at 2-3 yards a carry and when the defense clearly was getting boat races?

You keep running, and try different runs.  2 RB sets with Gainwell and Swift.  Under center, handoffs not RPOs.  Toss and sweep plays with Swift in space.  Keep mixing it up.  Some designed runs for Hurts in the 1st quarter, don't wait until they're losing and need a spark.

BJ said in his PC that when you look at stats like that, all it takes is a run to break for 20+ yards and then the avg per carry goes up and he owned that he needs to commit to it (let's see if he actually does.)

44 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Don't we need to cut someone to add Leonard? Did I miss a transaction?

They haven't made it official yet

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

lol well that is where he is going. He has the CA connection and they are going to win a ring.

da F is wrong with you?🤣

30 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Are your really being this intentionally obtuse?   

But you'll see 45 pass attempts when that's not working either.

Just like passing would have worked the 46th time!

Oh really?  Is that because the clock stops after a run just like it does after an incomplete pass?

 

Man, the both of you need to take a breather today,  You are both well respected, long time members of this blog but just off today, sorry.  

What nonsense. Let’s run the ball 5 more times so you can feel better about the balance and let’s pretend that we went ahead and ran on plays where we had incompletions that stopped the clock so it can support your argument more. Wow, we just shortened the game 3 minutes and still lost 42-19 (and we only got 19 because of the passing game since the running game was inept). 

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

lol well that is where he is going. He has the CA connection and they are going to win a ring.

Cowboy Joe on here is more of an Eagles fan than you today.

34 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Are your really being this intentionally obtuse?   

What's obtuse? You yourself asked the question "how many drives that didn't end up in points were short because of passing?". You disagree with my answer of 1 but still haven't given YOUR answer. So lets do simple math. 5 drives didn't end in points. 2 of those drives were short runs on first down and 3 out. 5-2 = 3. One was at the end of the game, you yourself said didn't count. 3-1 = 2. So are you considering the drive that ended the 2nd half that was 1 pass and 1 run "pass heavy"? If not then your magical answer is 2-1 = 1. Which is what I said from the beginning. 

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You keep running, and try different runs.  2 RB sets with Gainwell and Swift.  Under center, handoffs not RPOs.  Toss and sweep plays with Swift in space.  Keep mixing it up.  Some designed runs for Hurts in the 1st quarter, don't wait until they're losing and need a spark.

BJ said in his PC that when you look at stats like that, all it takes is a run to break for 20+ yards and then the avg per carry goes up and he owned that he needs to commit to it (let's see if he actually does.)

I said our run scheme was not going to work and that’s why I was fine abandoning the run. We did not have a single successful run on 10 non-QB sneak run plays. Not a single friggin’ one.

I’ve been calling for more pistol. I like the pony package and jet sweeps. The run game is stale and needs to be revamped out of the shotgun.

38 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

But you'll see 45 pass attempts when that's not working either.

No kidding. Why's that?

37 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I think Evans going back to IR covers that - could be wrong though

No, he was never brought back to the 53

Looking forward to whatever nonsensical LB rotation they run out there Sunday night. If Cunningham plays, it should be Leonard and him starting given the game Morrow just came off of, but my guess it they will try to balance placating Leonard(want to give him playing time, but probably don't think he's good enough to start either) and we'll see guys being swapped in and out all game.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No kidding. Why's that?

Let’s not forget that once you start trailing in games you actually want more possessions and not less so you have to pass more. Now factor in our defense…

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

What nonsense. Let’s run the ball 5 more times so you can feel better about the balance and let’s pretend that we went ahead and ran on plays where we had incompletions that stopped the clock so it can support your argument more. Wow, we just shortened the game 3 minutes and still lost 42-19 (and we only got 19 because of the passing game since the running game was inept). 

And I'm going to act like I'm psychic, just like you like to act and say those additional 5 runs went for 50+ yards, multiple 1st downs and TD's.   See how that works?

 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

What's obtuse? You yourself asked the question "how many drives that didn't end up in points were short because of passing?". You disagree with my answer of 1 but still haven't given YOUR answer. So lets do simple math. 5 drives didn't end in points. 2 of those drives were short runs on first down and 3 out. 5-2 = 3. One was at the end of the game, you yourself said didn't count. 3-1 = 2. So are you considering the drive that ended the 2nd half that was 1 pass and 1 run "pass heavy"? If not then your magical answer is 2-1 = 1. Which is what I said from the beginning. 

It's about ball control and time of possession.  I've made my points clear.  Sorry you don't seem to understand.  Moving on. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

It's about ball control and time of possession.  I've made my points clear.  Sorry you don't seem to understand.  Moving on. 

The hell are you even talking about? You asked me a question, I answered it, and you said it was wrong. So what's the right answer to the question you asked? Stop moving goalposts. 

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You keep running, and try different runs.  2 RB sets with Gainwell and Swift.  Under center, handoffs not RPOs.  Toss and sweep plays with Swift in space.  Keep mixing it up.  Some designed runs for Hurts in the 1st quarter, don't wait until they're losing and need a spark.

BJ said in his PC that when you look at stats like that, all it takes is a run to break for 20+ yards and then the avg per carry goes up and he owned that he needs to commit to it (let's see if he actually does.)

I brought up swift vs. KC and bills earlier. Against KC the eagles had 13 rushes for 50 yards and it took one (great play design) run to bust off a 35 yard run that jump started the offense. Go to Buffalo, swift had the 36 yard run. Before that run (in the 2nd half) he had 3 carries for 7 yards. That’s 2.33 yards per carry. Then he pops one for 36. Overall without that 36 yard run swift is 13 for 44 which is 3.4 yards per carry. So he wasn’t exactly good in that game outside of that 36 yard run and really that 16 yard run in overtime. 

which goes back to the same point I keep making, the Eagles are not good enough as a passing offense right now to become completely one dimensional. They are wildly inconsistent in the passing game since goedert went down. And if I’m a DC i love that they are one dimensional as their passing game has two reliable weapons with goedert out. Without any fear that swift could potentially get us on a run, i don’t even have to worry about it. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

The hell are you even talking about? You asked me a question, I answered it, and you said it was wrong. So what's the right answer to the question you asked? Stop moving goalposts. 

I asked you how many offensive drives we had without scoring.  (I added short).  We had 5 offensive drives without scoring and 4 of them were short drives.  Not sure how 4 or 5 becomes 1 but hey, here’s to you for inventing your own math when it benefits your nonsensical argument. 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They haven't made it official yet

Can he practice before officially signing?

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I asked you how many offensive drives we had without scoring.  (I added short).  We had 5 offensive drives without scoring and 4 of them were short drives.  Not sure how 4 or 5 becomes 1 but hey, here’s to you for inventing your own math when it benefits your nonsensical argument. 

 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Point was there was not "multiple 3 and outs due to passing all the time". The two times they did go 3 and out is because the run game was bad and put them behind early in the drive. 

 

2 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Fair enough.  How many "short offensive” drives did that have that led to punts or non scores? 

No, you didn't. You clearly asked how many short offensive drives dives that led to punts or non scores due to passing. After the fact you said there was multiple 3 and outs due to passing, which there weren't. You moved the goalposts so much you forgot what you were even arguing.

It's starting to become more and more obvious Steichen had a big role in play design and game planning and that's where he's missed more than play calling.

I just hope this doesn't turn into a "Steichen was the brains behind this operation" scenario that we look back to in a few years.

And what is with this team always having major drop offs when they lose their coordinators? It seems the Eagles struggle with it more than most.

At LB with Cunningham back that's good. They need to give Nolan Smith more snaps and see what he can do as well, gotta try something different.