14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I made the same comment on the blog a week ago when others wanted to can desai. You fire desai but you are going to have the same issues of how they run their defense. They went to use fangio’s style and  playoff and make you beat them by not giving up the big play. This is an organizational philosophy. So even if you fire desai you are gonna get another DC that’s gonna run something similar. 

Isn't it clear. Been saying it for some time now that Howie by proxy of Siri dictates how both the offense and defense run. Mostly on analytics bend but don't break for the defense. Offense I have no clue what they are doing with this basic ish. They would have to execute with pure precision and perfection on offense for it to work against defenses that aren't clueless. That's why I never dump on the Coordinators and actually took back my ill will for the former coordinators (except Gannon F that guy) that departed because they're not truly running things.

8 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I dislike that we really aren’t a physical Defense. 

The disappointing part to me the past few weeks has been that they've been getting destroyed on the ground. I've conceded the fact that they're going to give up yards in the passing game. The linebackers and secondary just aren't good enough. But I don't know what has happened to the interior of the line where they are all of the sudden getting blown off the ball. 

3 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I dislike that we really aren’t a physical Defense. 

They aren't physical, they aren't fast, they don't contain, they can't get off the field and they rarely create turnovers. The Carter fumble was great but it seems like there are batted passes that never seem to find the hands of an Eagles defender. 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It's their Fangio philosophy that they dictate to their DCs. For like the past four years we've seen them sit back in two-high shells only to prevent the deep play, rarely blitz, and get carved up over the middle against competent to good QBs. If the Gannon tampering issue with AZ didn't happen, Fangio would be the DC right now. 

Well they're not built to blitz. We see what happens when they do that. They got toasted the last two weeks blitzing.

Just now, bpac55 said:

They aren't physical, they aren't fast, they don't contain, they can't get off the field and they rarely create turnovers. The Carter fumble was great but it seems like there are batted passes that never seem to find the hands of an Eagles defender. 

We're almost in the post season and the defense still doesn't look like they know what they're doing. Hard to play fast if they are clueless as to what to do.

Listening to Sheil and Solak, and man, they’re saying all the same stuff we are. No hot reads, no answer vs the blitz, not getting Seift the ball in space, asking stars to be stars but not helping make their jobs easier. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

They aren't physical, they aren't fast, they don't contain, they can't get off the field and they rarely create turnovers. 

But aside from that…

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The disappointing part to me the past few weeks has been that they've been getting destroyed on the ground. I've conceded the fact that they're going to give up yards in the passing game. The linebackers and secondary just aren't good enough. But I don't know what has happened to the interior of the line where they are all of the sudden getting blown off the ball. 

Totally agree. We have to live with the deficiencies of the pass D & there are no real fixes to that problem, but giving up big chunks on the ground is just maddening and more disturbing. 
At least be good at something…

9 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I dislike that we really aren’t a physical Defense. 

That's what bothers me most. 

Growing up a fan in the late 80s and 90s that's what the Eagles were known for,  defense.

Makes me mad that they are so bad on defense.  They shouldn't be.  Really think scheme and philosophy are a bigger part of the problem.  

Just once I'd like to have a defense that isn't bend don't break - a defense that looks PISSED that you're even on the field with them.  Offended at the fact that you're even attempting to play football against them.  All I see right now is a bunch of Charmin soft pussays 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Listening to Sheil and Solak, and man, they’re saying all the same stuff we are. No hot reads, no answer vs the blitz, not getting Seift the ball in space, asking stars to be stars but not helping make their jobs easier. 

I look at the stuff that gets dialed up for Deebo in amazement. They had him in mismatches with Jamal Adams torching him all game. The movement that they have in their offense confuses the hell out of teams. Makes Purdy's reads super easy. How often do we see our stars in a mismatch with Safeties or LBs. Hardly ever.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

That's what bothers me most. 

Growing up a fan in the late 80s and 90s that's what the Eagles were known for,  defense.

Makes me mad that they are so bad on defense.  They shouldn't be.  Really think scheme and philosophy are a bigger part of the problem.  

And their start CB, who requests we use his last name only, called out one of the best players from that defense for the way he tackled.

7 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The disappointing part to me the past few weeks has been that they've been getting destroyed on the ground. I've conceded the fact that they're going to give up yards in the passing game. The linebackers and secondary just aren't good enough. But I don't know what has happened to the interior of the line where they are all of the sudden getting blown off the ball. 

That's an easy one to answer. The DL is worn the hell out. I don't think I've ever seen an Eagles DL take so many snaps over a course of two games. Not getting off the field on 3rd down all year has taken it's toll. They are spent. Need to bring in Suh or somebody to help with the rotation.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Do we think it’ll be Lock? I think it’ll be Geno who was only a last minute down grade. He’s got over a week to rest and get ready.

Geno will be fine 

On 12/8/2023 at 2:56 PM, Ipiggles said:

I believe your point was that our defense is below avg, and therefore incapable of Winning a SB. Now you want to say the opposite, that your season ranking dont count, only the play in the games itself? Well no kidding? 

 

Just make up your mind. 

Hmmm...

On 12/8/2023 at 4:47 PM, NOTW said:

 

So if 20 points is the reframed argument, then we won our only SB with below average defense.  You asked for 3 teams or even just 1 and our team is an example.    Also the Chiefs beat us last year with below average defense.  Here's a list of SB losers who scored more than 20 points.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/super-bowl/

 

Let's hold somebody to less than 30, then we can talk 

On 12/8/2023 at 6:42 PM, McMVP said:

I don’t want to go back to the previous pages to find out what this argument was really about, but I think I can guess the gist of it.

If the argument was "can a team suck in one specific area during the regular season, but correct it later in the season and the playoffs”?  After watching almost 50 years of football, the answer is certainly yes. Every year is different. Yes, history can tell us what has happened in the past and sometimes it repeats itself … but it also tells us that things that were once thought to be impossible are now possible.

You can’t go a week anymore without seeing a tweet (or an X or whatever) about some record that has either been broken, or some new trend that looks to be impressive (based on past accomplishments).  It’s an ever-evolving league.
 

 

 

the answer is no. Stop it

7 minutes ago, judunno said:

That's an easy one to answer. The DL is worn the hell out. I don't think I've ever seen an Eagles DL take so many snaps over a course of two games. Not getting off the field on 3rd down all year has taken it's toll. They are spent. Need to bring in Suh or somebody to help with the rotation.

I'd be curious to know where their snaps in this six-game stretch rank against any six-game stretch from a historical standpoint. It has to be up there. 

39 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, this just made my post defending Hurts look really bad lol. 

Like I said, there’s a lot of problems with this team right now. And it’s not all on him. But he is part of the problem. When you play 13 games and you’ve had a turnover and 77% of the games that’s a massive problem. The reason why Jalen hurts was so great last year was because he was consistent week to week. But also he took care of the ball as his Ints were down.

Now he had somewhat of a fumbling problem last year. He had nine fumbles in 15 games in 2022. He was fortunate to only lose 2 of those 9. This year he has 8 in 13 games and has lost 5 of them. Go back to last year’s playoffs he had 2 more fumbles in the 3 games. Lost 1 and it was costly. So there’s an issue where he needs to take care of the ball better. In 31 games the past two years (including playoffs), he has 17. That’s over every other game he has a fumble. He’s clearly a better Qb then Carson wentz and wentz has ridiculous fumbling issues especially in 2019 where he had 16 fumbles. but in Wentz’s last 3 years (or his last 37 games) he has accounted for 24 fumbles. he had 10 fumbles lost 4 (2020), 8 fumbles lost 5 (2021) and 6 fumbles lost 1 (2022). Hurts has had 9 losing 2 (2022) and 8 losing 5 (2023). Hurts is on pace to have 22.5 fumbles in 37 games. So 1.5 behind wentz at the rate is going and we all would say wentz has/had a fumbling problem.  

8 minutes ago, judunno said:

I look at the stuff that gets dialed up for Deebo in amazement. They had him in mismatches with Jamal Adams torching him all game. The movement that they have in their offense confuses the hell out of teams. Makes Purdy's reads super easy. How often do we see our stars in a mismatch with Safeties or LBs. Hardly ever.

I think this is the type of stuff AJ Brown is alluding to when he said fumbles are the least of the worries.  

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Listening to Sheil and Solak, and man, they’re saying all the same stuff we are. No hot reads, no answer vs the blitz, not getting Seift the ball in space, asking stars to be stars but not helping make their jobs easier. 

Both Sheil and Seth are livid at themselves for allowing the slurpers to convince them that "the team finds a way to win" is actually a real, quantifiable reason why this team won 10 games.

58 minutes ago, Tman said:

At this point in the season there’re not many options for Roseman.  Forget Ertz.  He is not a fix for the offense. I would consider Ndamukong Suh as an option to bolster the d-line.  True he’s not a defensive end but I think he could contribute by giving Carter, Davis, and Cox less snaps.  And give Nolan Smith more snaps to rest Sweat and Reddick.  

There are not.  But the indictment lies with the roster to a certain extent... and on the coaching as well.   Best way to protect an overexposed defense is to play ball possession offensively.   If they had worked just to hold on to the ball, maybe the defense doesn't play as many snaps and these guys still have some legs left.   Maybe not.   

But the thing about this gauntlet everyone talks about... they are 4 weeks removed from the bye.  They played on 6 days rest against Buffalo, which is true, but that was a week removed from the bye.  It wasn't some outrageous string of 12 straight games or anything.   Playing on 6 days rest against Buffalo was less the problem than the number of snaps that the defense played.   And, going against SF, the gameplan should have included trying to possess the ball and shorten the game to protect the defense.   The first quarter that went really well.  The defense was only on the field for 6 snaps.  Perfect execution in that regard, though the offense needed to get at least one TD on those first two drives.   Then, after SF went down and scored a TD to take the lead on their 3rd drive, that's when the Eagles' O went into panic mode.   There was no need to panic at that point, just keep doing what they had been doing.   Take what the defense was giving and keep possession of the ball.   Instead, they panicked, forgot that running the ball was an option and left the defense out to dry, and they were putrid the rest of the way.

And similarly, last night, they gave Dallas the ball first.  They could have tried to protect them a little... start with the ball and eat some clock.  Instead they didn't go into the game with much of a plan to again, protect the defense.    The inability of this team to play complementary football falls squarely on Sirianni.  He gave up play calling duties (he said) to be better able to focus on the whole team.  Meanwhile, he's not done that.  A blind man should have seen that the defense needed to be protected after that Bills game.  And instead, they ignored that and ran the ball 6 times?   Keeping the clock moving needed to be a major part of the game plan for that game.... knowing full well that they had Dallas waiting in the wings also coming off extra rest.

 

 

All this said... it will be nice to match up against an opponent that has the same amount of rest as the Eagles for the first time since the Chiefs game.  And they even get an extra day, so hopefully that helps with the long flight back to PHL and then the flight out to SEA.  I am trying to convince myself this season isn't sunk.  But, they need to show that on MNF against Seattle and handle their business.    Backing in to the playoffs won't be good.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t believe we have hot routes. It’s bad. 

 

4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Just once I'd like to have a defense that isn't bend don't break - a defense that looks PISSED that you're even on the field with them.  Offended at the fact that you're even attempting to play football against them.  All I see right now is a bunch of Charmin soft pussays 

What's frustrating is that I think all 3 UGA rookies have that dog in them from their UGA days. Jalen Carter 100% does. I think Kelee Ringo has a Jalen Mills swagger to his game that this team lacks. Nolan Smith has a BG type of motor but they won't play him.

We need dogs.