Seattle gonna be a dog fight 

Coaches should have seen this weeks ago. Hell, they should've came into the same prepared for this. What was Sirianni doing all offseason?

14 minutes ago, jmac+djaxallday said:

People have this idea that the Eagles are built to be this power rushing team that gains five yards on first down.  They're not.  They're a finesse team that's built to pass block and get up the field on screens and zone runs.  The right side of the offensive line probably weighs less than half the people on this board and the one semi-decent back on the roster is much better at the second level than running between the tackles.  The tush push skews this perception because it makes them seem like a barrel-chested team that  picks up three yards whenever they want, when in reality it's more of a gimmick that works in large part because the QB is a physical freak.

And, not for nothing, but nobody's a run first team in the NFL anymore.  If you can't pass the ball, you can't run it.  That's been true for a long time.

Gotta run them out of two high or you're not doing much great passing against good defenses.

9 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

"Running the ball more" doesn't mean run 3 times in a row every series and then punt lol.

That being said, the math is the math... you eat up about as much clock on a 3 and out of all run plays and punting as you do a 6 play drive where you've got one or two first downs but have 3 or 4 incompletions. 

Again, the problem is coaching. BJ and Nick have no feeling for the game or when to mix things in like Shane did last year. Also, Hurts needs to be on a leash right now. No giving him the option of pulling it back and passing. Tell him what you want him to do and expect him to do it. It can look to be an RPO but he isn't good enough to be making decisions on the field right now. It has to be hard for the offensive line to get into a flow when they don't know what is coming and have to prep for both. If they know it's a run they can get upfield and don't have to be hesitant. Get them into a damn rhythm . 

12 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

He just wanted a free coffee. 
 

 

 

48 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Remember last year all of the film of Mailata and Dickerson just mauling guys downfield on running plays. Where is that this year? Why can't this OL generate push and dominate in the running game? What's the issue there? Miles Sanders averaged 5 YPC to the tune of nearly 1300 yards. 

I'm a huge Swift guy but something is just off with the entire running game. Nothing about it is working.

Swift, without his 2 huge games and has 517 yards averaging 3.8 YPC. Last year in Detroit he was at 5.5 YPC.

Gainewell is averaging 3.7 YPC. Last year he was at 4.5 YPC

Hurts is averaging 3.7 YPC. Last year he was at 4.6 YPC

Boston Scott is at 4.9 a tote but they don't give him the ball.

For the most part, the running game is producing 3.7 YPC behind "the best OL in the NFL". 

This

Our run scheme is built around the threat of the QB run and Hurts hasn’t been good in designed runs for the most part. We need to revamp the scheme. Get more pistol. 

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Again, the problem is coaching. BJ and Nick have no feeling for the game or when to mix things in like Shane did last year. Also, Hurts needs to be on a leash right now. No giving him the option of pulling it back and passing. Tell him what you want him to do and expect him to do it. It can look to be an RPO but he isn't good enough to be making decisions on the field right now. It has to be hard for the offensive line to get into a flow when they don't know what is coming and have to prep for both. If they know it's a run they can get upfield and don't have to be hesitant. Get them into a damn rhythm . 

Facts. The run game is just as much a rhythm thing as the pass game.

17 minutes ago, jmac+djaxallday said:

People have this idea that the Eagles are built to be this power rushing team that gains five yards on first down.  They're not.  They're a finesse team that's built to pass block and get up the field on screens and zone runs.  The right side of the offensive line probably weighs less than half the people on this board and the one semi-decent back on the roster is much better at the second level than running between the tackles.  The tush push skews this perception because it makes them seem like a barrel-chested team that  picks up three yards whenever they want, when in reality it's more of a gimmick that works in large part because the QB is a physical freak.

And, not for nothing, but nobody's a run first team in the NFL anymore.  If you can't pass the ball, you can't run it.  That's been true for a long time.

Disagree. Just posted about this a bit ago. Last year Miles Sanders averaged 5YPC behind a dominant run blocking OL. Every week Mailata and Dickerson were taking souls downfield. Kelce was out in space and moving down field. This year, taking away Swift's two outlier games, they are averaging about 3.7 YPC.

Something is wrong with the team.

15 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

That dude sucks. 

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

He just wanted a free coffee. 
 

 

 

Desai, Slay, and Bradberry should take the coffee to him.

41 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I was confused by this whole KC/Mahomes thing about what they were complaining about. Out of all the poor calls we see on a weekly basis that would be justified in criticism, they choose the one that was blatantly and objectively a penalty. Like there isn't even a debate around it. It's not a questionable PI call where you can frame an argument and go back and forth. This was cut and dry an offsides call with Toney lined up way past where he is allowed. 

Then I realized that KC has gotten the benefit of doubts on calls throughout the years so much since Mahomes has been anointed as the new chosen one that he doesn't know how to process not getting the benefit of a call. It's like spoiling a kid for years and then telling him no. They don't know how to process that. It's basically the same thing here. 

Apparently he was mad that on a play after that Toney blunder apparently Von Miller was offisides and it was not called.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/12/von-miller-offsides-kadarius-toney-mahomes-bills-chiefs

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Our run scheme is built around the threat of the QB run and Hurts hasn’t been good in designed runs for the most part. We need to revamp the scheme. Get more pistol. 

What about a traditional fullback moving forward? Not this year but clearly, Hurts is going to get dinged up and if that happens, the run games goes to trash. They need to rebuild the run game to not rely on QB runs. It's just the fact of the matter as more teams figure out how to stop it and Hurts gets more dinged. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

That dude sucks. 

Damn, y'all got some real jack ass fans up there (I am sure we have them too) to do that. Who has time on a Monday morning to protest a pro football game like that? Someone should roll by with a paintball gun...

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Gotta run them out of two high or you're not doing much great passing against good defenses.

Everyone's gonna be in two high against this team regardless.  The question is whether they can get the intermediate passing game going to open up those runs.

13 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

That game wasn’t nearly as lobsided as the final score indicated. Devonta has a palm’s worth more reach on that one TD and it’s 30-20. Then if one of the two receivers don’t fumble in/near the redzone (which Dallas had scoring drives off of both), it’s 27-23 or even 27-27.

Lot of ifs, but a very different game than the SF one. It was actually pretty close to the first PHI-DAL game, we just didn’t get the breaks we had in that one

Ehh, if Washington goes for 2, if Valdez Scantling doesn’t drop a TD, and if Elliot doesn’t save the day against Buffalo, it’s an entirely different season.   It’s not like they smoked the Cowboys in Philly either.    
 Fact is Sam Howell destroyed the Eagles defense, meaning if Locke gets rid of the ball early to Metcalf (hopefully he’s suspended) the Eagles have no one to tackle him.  

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ok they would've lost yesterday 27-10 and lost to the Niners 39-13. Ran a couple more minutes off the clock, but have fewer points to show for it.

I'm fine with that. That means you've reduced the amount of defensive snaps for our gassed DL unit by about 20. Over the course of a season that all adds up and if you're concerned about freshness for playoffs you're in a much better spot. 

Just now, jmac+djaxallday said:

Everyone's gonna be in two high against this team regardless.  The question is whether they can get the intermediate passing game going to open up those runs.

Not going to open up the intermediate passing games if teams aren't biting on run action. We have a chicken or the egg problem. Solution... run the ball with consistency.

9 minutes ago, judunno said:

Facts. The run game is just as much a rhythm thing as the pass game.

Sure is and if they want to change things do it before the snap. Look, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but if I was the coach that's the first damn thing I'd do for a while. Run fake RPOs all day long but have the OL and the receivers and the RB know exactly what is coming before the snap. I can't imagine how hard it is for the OL to have to play elite talent across the line and not have a damn clue what they have to do.

Step two would be to get Frank in the building ASAP. BJ has no damn feel for the game. Things need to be simplified and the emphasis on getting first downs. Mix in a big play here and there but holy crap throw some quick slants or short passes and just move the chains.

The entire mindset of the offense is f'ed right now. The only way you fix that mid season is to bring in a new voice. Kind of like how the Phillies had the talent but Girardi sucked and the new manager sparked them.

I'd say the same is true for the defense. Patricia may not be amazing but he's called a lot of playoff games. SD needs to go ASAP. Drastic? Yes, but they need to be or the season is f'ed. They statistically have the worst defense in the league. Enough is enough.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What about a traditional fullback moving forward? Not this year but clearly, Hurts is going to get dinged up and if that happens, the run games goes to trash. They need to rebuild the run game to not rely on QB runs. It's just the fact of the matter as more teams figure out how to stop it and Hurts gets more dinged. 

If we don’t have a Shanahan running the offense, no thanks. 

3 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Damn, y'all got some real jack ass fans up there (I am sure we have them too) to do that. Who has time on a Monday morning to protest a pro football game like that? Someone should roll by with a paintball gun...

If 1 fan holding a sign and trashcans makes you question peoples time I'd hate for you to see what's happening in our major cities right now!

5 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

Ehh, if Washington goes for 2, if Valdez Scantling doesn’t drop a TD, and if Elliot doesn’t save the day against Buffalo, it’s an entirely different season.   It’s not like they smoked the Cowboys in Philly either.    
 Fact is Sam Howell destroyed the Eagles defense, meaning if Locke gets rid of the ball early to Metcalf (hopefully he’s suspended) the Eagles have no one to tackle him.  

Eagles secondary doesn't match up well with anyone. Seattle WRs are better than Washingtons. It's gonna be a tough one. They better find the run game and keep them off the field or we'll see three straight.

6 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Apparently he was mad that on a play after that Toney blunder apparently Von Miller was offisides and it was not called.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/12/von-miller-offsides-kadarius-toney-mahomes-bills-chiefs

Not true.  Because if it were that, he'd have mentioned that during the presser not about 'players needing to determine outcomes', etc.    This looks and sounds like some spin doctoring.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sure is and if they want to change things do it before the snap. Look, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but if I was the coach that's the first damn thing I'd do for a while. Run fake RPOs all day long but have the OL and the receivers and the RB know exactly what is coming before the snap. I can't imagine how hard it is for the OL to have to play elite talent across the line and not have a damn clue what they have to do.

Step two would be to get Frank in the building ASAP. BJ has no damn feel for the game. Things need to be simplified and the emphasis on getting first downs. Mix in a big play here and there but holy crap throw some quick slants or short passes and just move the chains.

The entire mindset of the offense is f'ed right now. The only way you fix that mid season is to bring in a new voice. Kind of like how the Phillies had the talent but Girardi sucked and the new manager sparked them.

I'd say the same is true for the defense. Patricia may not be amazing but he's called a lot of playoff games. SD needs to go ASAP. Drastic? Yes, but they need to be or the season is f'ed. They statistically have the worst defense in the league. Enough is enough.

I don't know if you noticed bur Siri has the call sheet as well all game. Im not convinced bringing anyone else in changes things.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What about a traditional fullback moving forward? Not this year but clearly, Hurts is going to get dinged up and if that happens, the run games goes to trash. They need to rebuild the run game to not rely on QB runs. It's just the fact of the matter as more teams figure out how to stop it and Hurts gets more dinged. 

Been saying it for years... 

52 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I was confused by this whole KC/Mahomes thing about what they were complaining about. Out of all the poor calls we see on a weekly basis that would be justified in criticism, they choose the one that was blatantly and objectively a penalty. Like there isn't even a debate around it. It's not a questionable PI call where you can frame an argument and go back and forth. This was cut and dry an offsides call with Toney lined up way past where he is allowed. 

Then I realized that KC has gotten the benefit of doubts on calls throughout the years so much since Mahomes has been anointed as the new chosen one that he doesn't know how to process not getting the benefit of a call. It's like spoiling a kid for years and then telling him no. They don't know how to process that. It's basically the same thing here. 

I wonder if he can be fined for that.  AR too.