6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I like the idea of Kelce wearing pink or red gloves that he was asked about in the PC

Nah, that calls too much attention to his hands throughout the game. I was actually thinking about this the other day when I saw someone with yellow gloves on...as an O or D lineman (even TE or LB) I would want gloves the same color as my opponent's jersey.  

Benching Bradberry for Ringo would improve the defense. Ringo is already a better run defender and has the long speed to recover. Will he give up plays? Sure. But at least there's upside there.

-Swift and Gainwell are basically sharing the backfield load now.

-Byard is washed. Said it last night but compare trading a 4th and a 6th this year for Byard and a 4th last year for Quinn to the Cowboys trading a 5th for Gilmore. Eagles trades have been so bad. 

-Sidney Brown played 58 snaps after Blankenship got hurt. I'd have no issue with Brown and Blankenship being the starters moving forward but that's not going to happen.

-Nick Morrow is such a non-factor to be leading the LB in snaps but who else is going to play. 

-Josiah Scott made more of an impact in his lone game against Miami than Roby made in 58 snaps last night. Still have no idea why Scott was the odd man out.

-Josh Sweat is playing entirely too many snaps. He's at 76% for the year. His highest before this year was 62%. He's gassed.

-Adding to that, BG playing 51% is WAY too much

-Milton Williams played the quietest 40% of snaps ever. He was looking like a sure thing extension earlier in the year but I haven't seen him make a play in weeks. Maybe his injury is still effecting his game. I noticed Tuipulotu a lot more in his 18 snaps.

-Nolan Smith with 21 and Kelee Ringo with 22 snaps is great to see. Smith held his own and held the edge really well. Ringo 100% had his issues, but he played 1 snap all year before last night. I want these guys on the field as much as they can be down the road. BG's 50% and Smith's 26% need to be evened out. Get them both around 35%.

 

15 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They can.  I just don't think it would make a difference.  

I would actually bring in Frank Reich to be an assistant to Brian Johnson and Nick Sirianni. Now if you want to make the move to push him into the offensive coordinator role in the offseason I could see it. I don’t think they would though.

I think defensively you’re gonna have the same issues that you are having now. There’s not another DC out there right now that is a quality candidate for defensive coordinator. and installs everything the last four weeks of the year and playoffs and they just are much better. You saw it last night they made adjustments in the second half. They were a better defense in the second half. The problem is they still couldn’t get enough stops because they don’t have the personnel to make the defense work at the level everybody wants. Everyone keeps saying the Eagles have too much talent on defense to be this bad. I would argue some of the names on the back of those jerseys confuse people. It’s confusing because they used to be what people imagine they are now. They aren’t that anymore. Kevin byard is not what he was two years ago. James Bradberry is not what he was last year. slay is not what he was two or three years ago. Brandon Graham is not what he was last year. And their linebackers suck. Bradley Roby is not the guy he was three years ago. You have bigger name value then actual performance.

what does do another analysis with a DFS. With all these guys we play on defense, how many of them are in their prime/peak of career, at the downside of their career, and at the start of the crew, and not in their prime yet

cox— downside of career

slay— downside of career

Graham— downside of career

cunningham— downside of career

leonard— downside of career 

morrow— prime/peak ( but frankly not good)

roby— downside of career

bradberry— prime but likely going into downside 

byard— same as bradberry 

Carter— just starting 

Davis— start starting 

williams— prime/peak (not good this year)

sweat— prime/peak of career

reddick— prime/peak of career

blankenship— just starting into prime 

brown— just starting

 

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Why can't they? Patricia is in the building. Maybe you can't fire both but one should absolutely go. The defense can't go down much lower than it is.

 

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They can.  I just don't think it would make a difference.  

 

 

They dont need to fire him during the year- that can wait till the day after our 1st rd play off loss giving up 40+

 they just need someone with a better idea of how to run a defense, to game plan and call the defense the rest of the way. 

More of a salary cap question, but what is the impact of moving on from Slay and Bradberry after the season? The dead caps seem outrageous for both and they don't have potential outs until after next season. Unless I'm missing something, just two awful contracts there. 

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

More of a salary cap question, but what is the impact of moving on from Slay and Bradberry after the season? The dead caps seem outrageous for both and they don't have potential outs until after next season. Unless I'm missing something, just two awful contracts there. 

Howie is not having a good run just now.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

Benching Bradberry for Ringo would improve the defense. Ringo is already a better run defender and has the long speed to recover. Will he give up plays? Sure. But at least there's upside there.

Yikes. No. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Yikes. No. 

Do you think Bradberry can turn this around?

I think Kempski said he needs to appear in one more game for us to get the benefit of the trade. So that’s great. 

Just now, RLC said:

Do you think Bradberry can turn this around?

Do I think Ringo can play better than him right now? Hell no. 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

More of a salary cap question, but what is the impact of moving on from Slay and Bradberry after the season? The dead caps seem outrageous for both and they don't have potential outs until after next season. Unless I'm missing something, just two awful contracts there. 

Honestly, cut or trade Slay, Bradberry and Maddox. It's not our money so in all honestly, who cares if they have dead cap hits. This year, the Eagles have $62 million in dead cap. Sure it's not the best way to manage a roster but again, not my money. They need to get younger, faster and eventually better.

Dead Money

Name	Cap Number
Fletcher Cox	$15,359,292
Javon Hargrave	$11,956,000
Brandon Brooks	$9,797,237
Isaac Seumalo	$7,530,000
James Bradberry	$4,972,000
Derek Barnett	$2,209,604
Jalen Reagor	$1,802,850
Kyzir White	$1,172,000
Terrell Edmunds	$945,882
T.J. Edwards	$711,000
Kentavius Street	$680,000
Christian Elliss	$628,333
Greedy Williams	$600,000
Josiah Scott	$336,666
Greg Ward	$267,800
Mario Goodrich	$250,000
Ben VanSumeren	$233,001
Joseph Ngata	$210,000
Davion Taylor	$208,073
K'Von Wallace	$176,528
Braden Mann	$168,333
Trey Sermon	$122,555
Jadon Haselwood	$119,166
Tyrie Cleveland	$116,667
Brett Toth	$112,700
Ben VanSumeren	$110,000
Julian Good-Jones	$108,000
Mekhi Garner	$105,833
Ty Zentner	$105,000
Arryn Siposs	$104,444
Julio Jones	$104,444
Trevor Reid	$103,333
Noah Elliss	$100,000
TOTAL	$62,616,125

Below is Darius Slay's contract. The far right column in the pink shows dead money and cap savings.

Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
2023	32	$1,165,000	$10,708,000	$150,000	$0		$1,165,000		$11,873,000	5.1%		$13,083,000	($1,210,000)
2024 📝	33	$1,210,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$10,996,000	4.5%		$10,996,000	$0
2025 📝	34	$1,255,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$3,219,000		$0		$14,410,000	5.5%		$9,786,000	$4,624,000
2026 📝	35	Void	$7,501,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$27,130,000	9.6%		$7,501,000	$19,629,000
2027	36	Void	$4,425,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$4,425,000	($4,425,000)
2028	37	Void	$2,328,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$2,328,000	($2,328,000)
2029	38	Void	$0	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

This is Bradberry's

Total		$3,630,000	$17,625,000	$450,000	$16,895,000		$2,375,000		$38,300,000
2023	30	$1,165,000	$1,597,000	$150,000	$300,000		$1,165,000		$3,062,000	1.3%		$3,972,000	($910,000)
2024 📝	31	$1,210,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$4,735,000	1.9%		$4,735,000	$0
2025 📝	32	$1,255,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$3,319,000		$0		$8,249,000	3.2%		$3,525,000	$4,724,000
2026 📝	33	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$22,254,000	7.8%		$3,525,000	$18,729,000
2027	34	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$3,525,000	($3,525,000)
2028	35	Void	$1,928,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$1,928,000	($1,928,000)
2029	36	Void	$0	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

Lastly, Avonte Maddox

Total		$10,586,667	$12,952,811	$1,000,000	$300,000		$1,443,888		$24,604,184
2023 📝	27	$1,080,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$4,053,972	1.7%		$2,559,266	$1,494,706
2024	28	$6,850,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$10,059,266	4.1%		$2,559,266	$7,500,000
2025 📝	29	Void	$2,559,269	Void	Void		Void		$5,160,269	2.0%		$2,559,269	$2,601,000
2026	30	Void	$1,547,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$1,547,000	($1,547,000)
2027	31	Void	$1,054,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	--		$1,054,000	($1,054,000)

 

And to follow up, not sure how accurate this is but as of now, 2024 dead money on Over The Cap is showing only 2 players. That can't be right. 

Dead Money

Name	Cap Number
Derek Barnett	$4,004,766
Kyron Johnson	$104,964
TOTAL	$4,210,900

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Honestly, cut or trade Slay, Bradberry and Maddox. It's not our money so in all honestly, who cares if they have dead cap hits. This year, the Eagles have $62 million in dead cap. Sure it's not the best way to manage a roster but again, not my money. They need to get younger, faster and eventually better.

Dead Money

Name	Cap Number
Fletcher Cox	$15,359,292
Javon Hargrave	$11,956,000
Brandon Brooks	$9,797,237
Isaac Seumalo	$7,530,000
James Bradberry	$4,972,000
Derek Barnett	$2,209,604
Jalen Reagor	$1,802,850
Kyzir White	$1,172,000
Terrell Edmunds	$945,882
T.J. Edwards	$711,000
Kentavius Street	$680,000
Christian Elliss	$628,333
Greedy Williams	$600,000
Josiah Scott	$336,666
Greg Ward	$267,800
Mario Goodrich	$250,000
Ben VanSumeren	$233,001
Joseph Ngata	$210,000
Davion Taylor	$208,073
K'Von Wallace	$176,528
Braden Mann	$168,333
Trey Sermon	$122,555
Jadon Haselwood	$119,166
Tyrie Cleveland	$116,667
Brett Toth	$112,700
Ben VanSumeren	$110,000
Julian Good-Jones	$108,000
Mekhi Garner	$105,833
Ty Zentner	$105,000
Arryn Siposs	$104,444
Julio Jones	$104,444
Trevor Reid	$103,333
Noah Elliss	$100,000
TOTAL	$62,616,125

Below is Darius Slay's contract. The far right column in the pink shows dead money and cap savings.

Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
2023	32	$1,165,000	$10,708,000	$150,000	$0		$1,165,000		$11,873,000	5.1%		$13,083,000	($1,210,000)
2024 📝	33	$1,210,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$10,996,000	4.5%		$10,996,000	$0
2025 📝	34	$1,255,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$3,219,000		$0		$14,410,000	5.5%		$9,786,000	$4,624,000
2026 📝	35	Void	$7,501,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$27,130,000	9.6%		$7,501,000	$19,629,000
2027	36	Void	$4,425,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$4,425,000	($4,425,000)
2028	37	Void	$2,328,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$2,328,000	($2,328,000)
2029	38	Void	$0	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

This is Bradberry's

Total		$3,630,000	$17,625,000	$450,000	$16,895,000		$2,375,000		$38,300,000
2023	30	$1,165,000	$1,597,000	$150,000	$300,000		$1,165,000		$3,062,000	1.3%		$3,972,000	($910,000)
2024 📝	31	$1,210,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$4,735,000	1.9%		$4,735,000	$0
2025 📝	32	$1,255,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$3,319,000		$0		$8,249,000	3.2%		$3,525,000	$4,724,000
2026 📝	33	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$22,254,000	7.8%		$3,525,000	$18,729,000
2027	34	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$3,525,000	($3,525,000)
2028	35	Void	$1,928,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$1,928,000	($1,928,000)
2029	36	Void	$0	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

Lastly, Avonte Maddox

Total		$10,586,667	$12,952,811	$1,000,000	$300,000		$1,443,888		$24,604,184
2023 📝	27	$1,080,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$4,053,972	1.7%		$2,559,266	$1,494,706
2024	28	$6,850,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$10,059,266	4.1%		$2,559,266	$7,500,000
2025 📝	29	Void	$2,559,269	Void	Void		Void		$5,160,269	2.0%		$2,559,269	$2,601,000
2026	30	Void	$1,547,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$1,547,000	($1,547,000)
2027	31	Void	$1,054,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	--		$1,054,000	($1,054,000)

 

I actually think you could trade slay and get solid value. Not great but some value in terms of draft pick. But cutting or trading him eats a significant amount of your cap. Bradberry likely have to bite the bullet like giants did in 2022 offseason but even that eats a significant part of your cap. You’d have to cut both or trade both as post June to not have that hit. More likely both are back. I think Maddox is more interesting. I wouldn’t rely on him but i think the eagles would bring him back and just have a better backup plan then they had this year. Similarly to what they had last year with CJGJ being able to go play in the slot when maddox was out. 

50 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Simple, just look at the schedule and the records. Five straight game of the week games and the other teams have had far more rest the last three weeks. It makes a big difference. We still control the East and the #2 seed with #1 seed in sight and we are healthy. 

And those are all valid reasons and it’s a compelling case… I’m just not sure this Eagles team is that good and that’s the issue.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think you could trade slay and get solid value. Not great but some value in terms of draft pick. Bradberry likely have to bite the bullet like giants did in 2022 offseason. I think Maddox is more interesting. I wouldn’t rely on him but i think the eagles would bring him back and just have a better backup plan then they had this year. Similarly to what they had last year with CJGJ being able to go play in the slot when maddox was out. 

They need to move whoever they an for draft picks. If Slay brings back a 5th, do it. I'm done with Maddox. You just can't rely on him. Even with a backup plan in place, an injury to him throws the entire defense in a tizzy. Go in to the year with a better, more healthy option. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Honestly, cut or trade Slay, Bradberry and Maddox. It's not our money so in all honestly, who cares if they have dead cap hits. This year, the Eagles have $62 million in dead cap. Sure it's not the best way to manage a roster but again, not my money. They need to get younger, faster and eventually better.

Dead Money

Name	Cap Number
Fletcher Cox	$15,359,292
Javon Hargrave	$11,956,000
Brandon Brooks	$9,797,237
Isaac Seumalo	$7,530,000
James Bradberry	$4,972,000
Derek Barnett	$2,209,604
Jalen Reagor	$1,802,850
Kyzir White	$1,172,000
Terrell Edmunds	$945,882
T.J. Edwards	$711,000
Kentavius Street	$680,000
Christian Elliss	$628,333
Greedy Williams	$600,000
Josiah Scott	$336,666
Greg Ward	$267,800
Mario Goodrich	$250,000
Ben VanSumeren	$233,001
Joseph Ngata	$210,000
Davion Taylor	$208,073
K'Von Wallace	$176,528
Braden Mann	$168,333
Trey Sermon	$122,555
Jadon Haselwood	$119,166
Tyrie Cleveland	$116,667
Brett Toth	$112,700
Ben VanSumeren	$110,000
Julian Good-Jones	$108,000
Mekhi Garner	$105,833
Ty Zentner	$105,000
Arryn Siposs	$104,444
Julio Jones	$104,444
Trevor Reid	$103,333
Noah Elliss	$100,000
TOTAL	$62,616,125

Below is Darius Slay's contract. The far right column in the pink shows dead money and cap savings.

Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
2023	32	$1,165,000	$10,708,000	$150,000	$0		$1,165,000		$11,873,000	5.1%		$13,083,000	($1,210,000)
2024 📝	33	$1,210,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$10,996,000	4.5%		$10,996,000	$0
2025 📝	34	$1,255,000	$9,786,000	$150,000	$3,219,000		$0		$14,410,000	5.5%		$9,786,000	$4,624,000
2026 📝	35	Void	$7,501,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$27,130,000	9.6%		$7,501,000	$19,629,000
2027	36	Void	$4,425,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$4,425,000	($4,425,000)
2028	37	Void	$2,328,000	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$2,328,000	($2,328,000)
2029	38	Void	$0	Void	$3,219,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

This is Bradberry's

Total		$3,630,000	$17,625,000	$450,000	$16,895,000		$2,375,000		$38,300,000
2023	30	$1,165,000	$1,597,000	$150,000	$300,000		$1,165,000		$3,062,000	1.3%		$3,972,000	($910,000)
2024 📝	31	$1,210,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$0		$1,210,000		$4,735,000	1.9%		$4,735,000	$0
2025 📝	32	$1,255,000	$3,525,000	$150,000	$3,319,000		$0		$8,249,000	3.2%		$3,525,000	$4,724,000
2026 📝	33	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$22,254,000	7.8%		$3,525,000	$18,729,000
2027	34	Void	$3,525,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$3,525,000	($3,525,000)
2028	35	Void	$1,928,000	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$1,928,000	($1,928,000)
2029	36	Void	$0	Void	$3,319,000		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

Lastly, Avonte Maddox

Total		$10,586,667	$12,952,811	$1,000,000	$300,000		$1,443,888		$24,604,184
2023 📝	27	$1,080,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$4,053,972	1.7%		$2,559,266	$1,494,706
2024	28	$6,850,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$10,059,266	4.1%		$2,559,266	$7,500,000
2025 📝	29	Void	$2,559,269	Void	Void		Void		$5,160,269	2.0%		$2,559,269	$2,601,000
2026	30	Void	$1,547,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$1,547,000	($1,547,000)
2027	31	Void	$1,054,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	--		$1,054,000	($1,054,000)

 

Those are all post June 1st cuts in 2024. I know you said you don't care about dead money, but still, in 2025 you would have:

$24M dead for Slay

$13M dead for Bradberry

$5M dead for Maddox

That's a lot of dead money while you are trying to rebuild the secondary and remain competitive 

 

Slay and Bradberry aren't going anywhere. Scheme a defense that can not be the worst in the NFL with them. Figure it out. Other teams are.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think you could trade slay and get solid value. Not great but some value in terms of draft pick. Bradberry likely have to bite the bullet like giants did in 2022 offseason. I think Maddox is more interesting. I wouldn’t rely on him but i think the eagles would bring him back and just have a better backup plan then they had this year. Similarly to what they had last year with CJGJ being able to go play in the slot when maddox was out. 

I don't. They told him to seek a trade and he came back with nothing. 

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Do I think Ringo can play better than him right now? Hell no. 

Desai will agree with you there.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Slay and Bradberry aren't going anywhere. Scheme a defense that can not be the worst in the NFL with them. Figure it out. Other teams are.

This. There are defenses in the NFL right now, with less talent, that are playing so much better than the Eagles defense plays every week.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't. They told him to seek a trade and he came back with nothing. 

I think cause teams figured they were gonna cut him. I don’t think teams expected what happened. Frankly i didn’t. I thought he was gone. I think a team on the cusp that wants a 1 year guy would give you a 5th with conditions on it. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't. They told him to seek a trade and he came back with nothing. 

He was ready to be a Raven. Slay was gone. Unless you're talking about the trade deadline?

It's easy to hate on lately but he's been a very good Eagle. He loves it here, his wife loves it here and the team loves having him. Sad thing about sports is sometimes you move on from personalities you love. Would have been totally fine with him being a Raven.

"I was almost, I was almost, this close, a Baltimore Raven," Slay said, while showing his fingers an inch apart. "I was this close. But I wanted to be an Eagle. I stayed an Eagle because I know me and [Eagles General Manager] Howie [Roseman] were going to figure something out but the Baltimore Ravens was the first team that called, and they offered just what I wanted. And I just said if the Eagles do that, I'm going to stay an Eagle."

1 minute ago, mayanh8 said:

This. There are defenses in the NFL right now, with less talent, that are playing so much better than the Eagles defense plays every week.

I think there’s a lot of name value of players that aren’t close to what they have been on the past. I also think our pass rush has 3-4 guys who are consistent likely wearing down and the rest have been MIA