10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ve tried to watch the Sopranos multiple times and it’s just so boring. Overrated show. Just like the Godfather is such an overrated movie. 

Italians have good food but that’s about it. 

3 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

They’re all going to make plays lol. You bring up Smitty who had 2 drops and a fumble. AJ who had a drop and a fumble. Hurts who takes sacks for no reason, and a fumble. OL is decent but we’re making the pass pro all night instead of forcing the issue on the ground. The closest average distance to the QB with our pass rush vs Cowboys was 4.4 yards lmao. Slay/Bradbury having "good stats” the last two weeks isn’t necessarily them playing out of their mind, it’s the scheme leaves the middle of the field wide open, so they’re often getting attacked less. They also had crucial penalties vs Dallas. 
 

My posts aren’t attacks on the players, more-so the coaching that can’t get these guys going in the first quarter, can’t get any Rythm or prowess on either side of the ball, and a defense who allows offense to do anything they want due to it’s soft nature, and are severely misusing some all-pro level skill weapons on offense. 

Well you said not a single unit played with heart, they've all given up.  I gave many examples of players in fact not giving up and you still are finding the negative way to spin everything.  You're just going to see everything with a glass half empty approach and pessimism, nothing is good enough, everything sucks, there's not a single thing that's positive and that's just delusional and over the top negativity.  I just don't understand the EXTREME negativity that nothing is good.  That's crazy lol.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It's apparent that Siri is a good motivator and there are probably other strengths that make him a good Head Coach but offensive play design and play calling aren't his strength.  Now, you don't have the best record in the NFL 2 years in a row and make a Super Bowl simply by luck or by the players only.  But look back to when he was calling plays last year the offense struggled.  Steichen took over and they ran the ball more and got more creative.  And just like that, Steichen gets hired as a HC. They promised promoting BJ would mean less drop off and bring consistency...it hasn't.  Siri and BJ design plays together and put the game plan together.  It seems that Siri thinks he can just rely on Hurts and the playmakers to make it happen, and the plays and calls are predictable.

Siri needs an really talented offensive mind as the OC...that's not BJ.  I really hope they just bring in Reich to consult and get some fresh ideas.  And in the offseason there's a change but we'll see.

On defense, they still have a bend but don't break mentality and don't get enough pressure.  They leave vulnerabilities so the other team moves the ball down the field with ease and next thing you know they're already in the red zone.  They need to get more aggressive on every down and for God sakes get off the field on 3rd down, it's atrocious.  They likely won't fire any coordinator, but if they do they're not firing both.  So if I had to pick, I'd take a new OC to get the talent they have more efficient and scoring points, and give Desai better talent in the back 7, and for Siri to push him to change.

If they get one and the offense becomes dominant again, that OC will just get hired away again. Which is why your best schemer and designer always needs to be your head coach. It's a concern right now.

Remember last season when they played Dallas and used his aggressiveness as a weakness against him. We've seen none of that creativity this season at all. It's really starting to piss me off, because it feels like they're wasting an elite unit in terms of talent.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Just to let you know, the Cowboys have done that with Micha Parsons before. And the Niners this year have done that with Bosa. The great Jimmy Johnson did that with Trent cole. Like like you think that is just exclusive to desai as the only person in the history of defensive coordinators to do that. Lol. 

Oh, look at what they lost last year from that defense. Eight Fing players. And then go look at who they replace them with. It is a downgrade across-the-board. You have young guys with hardly any experience. Or older guys who are at the end of their careers. 

you keep saying these adjustments like they are magically making up for bad or mediocre players. Lol. It’s laughable you think adjustments are just gonna make this unit good. make up for 2 has-been linebackers, a bad slot corner, slower then crap safety, a bad linebacker, slow plodding corners that are regressing and bad depth along their Dl. But sure it’s simply the adjustments that’s are going to make all those problems go away. 

Yeah I think adjustments would help yup. There are much worse defensive groups in the league who are better than us on 3rd down. 
 

Indy, Carolina, Washington, and Arizona are the only teams that get scored on more than us. Also bottom 5 pass yards allowed per game. 

Dead last giving up 48% of 3rd down attempts. Bottom 4 in 1st downs allowed. 2nd to last in passing TDs allowed.

We have enough pieces we just need to change our scheme to alleviate some of the pressure on the weaknesses. If your LBers aren’t good, why have them consistently on the island in a cover 4 scheme? Why not switch to cover 3, 3 high adding a safety into the box with him? 
 

We have a problem impacting the QB. I don’t understand why you would fake a blitz to then fake a coverage to them blitz into a spy on a quick hitting QB. I’d be 100% okay if he went zero blitz on these downs and forced a quick pass, all he’s doing is making the rush worse and the coverage bad  

 

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Even beyond that, they force losers like Scangarello on their HC and make the offense broken beyond repair. 

I just don’t see their impatience as some overwhelmingly positive thing here. 

Correct.

8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Doesnt that come down to the qb and where his eyes go?

I think it is practicing it together to understand tendencies.   Dak is better at stepping up then moving laterally.   They work on this, which is obvious.  They have a plan in place.  Hurts either drifts back then lateral or just quickly to the right.  Knowing this, the Eagles need to practice outlets based on Hurts's tendencies.  Our plan seems to be for receivers to run downfield to open space when Hurts scrambles with no underneath RB staying close to the LOS.  At least, that is my perception. 

25 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ve tried to watch the Sopranos multiple times and it’s just so boring. Overrated show. Just like the Godfather is such an overrated movie. 

Italians have good food but that’s about it. 

Is their food really even that good?  How hard is it to boil pasta and dump some sauce on it?  

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Is their food really even that good?  How hard is it to boil pasta and dump some sauce on it?  

I bet you think Olive Garden has good food other than salad and bread sticks

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I bet you think Olive Garden has good food other than soup and bread sticks

I love all of garden - you are correct

47 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Yeah I think adjustments would help yup. There are much worse defensive groups in the league who are better than us on 3rd down. 
 

Indy, Carolina, Washington, and Arizona are the only teams that get scored on more than us. Also bottom 5 pass yards allowed per game. 

Dead last giving up 48% of 3rd down attempts. Bottom 4 in 1st downs allowed. 2nd to last in passing TDs allowed.

We have enough pieces we just need to change our scheme to alleviate some of the pressure on the weaknesses. If your LBers aren’t good, why have them consistently on the island in a cover 4 scheme? Why not switch to cover 3, 3 high adding a safety into the box with him? 
 

We have a problem impacting the QB. I don’t understand why you would fake a blitz to then fake a coverage to them blitz into a spy on a quick hitting QB. I’d be 100% okay if he went zero blitz on these downs and forced a quick pass, all he’s doing is making the rush worse and the coverage bad  

 

to your last point Jim Johnson did that with Trent cole. Wilks and demeco Ryan have done it last two years with bosa (and they had far better linebackers then the eagles and shouldn’t have done it). Dan Quinn has done that with parsons. You act like it’s exclusive to him. No, there’s been a lot of really good defensive coordinators that have tried this. It’s cause you want to try and throw something against the wall to see if you can confuse the Qb into making a mistake. Again, you seem to think Desai is the only person ever to have call. I am telling you right now Jim Johnson use to do it with Cole. 

I never said don’t make adjustments. However, you seem to think making adjustments is going to make up for bad personnel for the entire game or year. It’s a short term solution. Those adjustments will work for a series or maybe two and eventually those opposing teams are going to figure it out and the beat you because your personnel isn’t good enough and find your weakness and exploit it  

Did he not make adjustments in the second half? The obvious answer is yes whether not you want to admit it or not. And yet some of those adjustments worked for a little bit. However, at the end of the day that was still was not enough as Dallas cracked the code and was able to move the ball because their personnel was able to exploit the same weak personnel on the field for the eagles.

You seem to think teams are not gonna find a weakness on the Eagles because he’s making adjustments to try and cover them? Second half we did that. It worked for 2 series then the dam broke cause their personnel can’t match Dallas and with theirs. At some point in time adjustments are doomed to fail cause personnel isn’t good enough.

I am not desai is some great DC. I have no clue wtf he is. However, I’m guessing if we had 2022 personnel as compared to 2023 personnel the defense probably looks much better. I don’t think you grasp how much of a downgrade every positional unit they made this year. And then when you throw in a much tougher schedule, ton of guys lacking nfl experience, at least 3 starters who have no business being starters in the nfl at this stage of their careers and a coordinator here for the first time you were always going to have problems. The delusion people had on here that Carter as a rookie and Davis alone were gonna make up for losing hargrave, suh and Jospeh was always hilarious to me. Reason why hargrave was as good as he was. The delusion that Blankenship and whatever other S they threw out with him was gonna be as good as CJGJ and Epps was also laughable. But not as laughable as having no viable backup solution if maddox got hurt besides an unproven mcphearson who also got hurt  

Desai is a problem. He’s not absolve from any blame. He has his issues and warts. However, the overwhelming massively bigger problem is the Eagles personnel isn’t very good and not good enough against Sf or Dallas. That’s from offseason Decisions and an offseason fix. Adjustments will work for a series or two like the second half then ultimately still doomed to fail due to personnel.

if you want to talk about philosophically and organizationally the Eagles want to play a Fangio defense/death by a 1000 paper cuts we can have that discussion. Because I don’t think it works well enough in today’s NFL anymore. Have to create turnovers to have success in this league. Meaning you need more playmakers. I think offenses have learned how to attack it. That’s why Miami had the issues it had last night. It’s why when they face top 10 offenses this year they’ve struggled mightily. It’s a defense that worked really well a couple years ago but the league has caught up to it.

 

 

28 minutes ago, NOTW said:

nothing is good enough, everything sucks, there's not a single thing that's positive

You had me at this, you sweet talking son of a **** 

54 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

I sort of disagree with the notion than he can only rely on 3 receivers. I feel a really good QB should be able to make receivers better. Maybe Brady was a total outlier, but what he did with some no names was special. 
Could it also have something to do with AJB and Smitty having that "more” personal relationship with Hurts? IDK, but he has had other receivers open and if you can trust the receiver to catch a ball while open, what the heck is he even doing on the field?! Sure, they may not be as explosive as the main two, but in terms of moving the chains and getting positiv yards you have to involve other players. 
Idk if any of that is/could be true, as I don’t have any game tapes etc. to prove this point. It’s an assumption, as he basically only throws to them. Other teams know this, so why not take advantage of it by using other options? And yes, I know Q. Watkins has messed up in the past, but still, you have to get them involved in the game and have the other team somewhat guessing what and where you will throw the ball..

just a thought ✌️

First Brady is the ultimate outlier. Because he’s the best quarterback that we’ve ever seen play. So, using Brady and any argument is a losing argument because there’s probably never gonna be another Tom Brady.

second I never said there has to be just three reliable wide receivers. I think they only have three reliable pass catchers on the roster. I’ve seen what happens every time we throw the ball Quez. It’s usually negative over a positive. Oz was a free agent, and he sat in free agency for over a month. It’s because he is a four or five wide receiver on most teams. And he’s fine in the role that he is. But the drop off from Smith to Oz is significant. You don’t have a third wide receiver that is frankly competent. Watkins has no business being the third wide receiver when for a year and a half nowwe have seen he’s not being good enough when the ball does get thrown to him. Back up tight ends can either only block (Stoll) or pass catch (Albert O/Calcaterra). So when you send those guys out there, it’s pretty obvious signal to the defense what you are calling.

third, again I’m not saying hurts shouldn’t be throwing it two more wide receivers. I 100% agree he should. My whole point is they don’t have very good pass catchers outside of those three. They’re not good.  It’s why I said this off-season they gotta go an upgrade, backup tight end and the third wide receiver. I think in the minds of the coordinators and hurts, they don’t even want quez, Oz, julio, Stoll, Calcaterra or Albert O in the first 3 progressions. i don’t think hurts goes through that many progressions before he throws it so it’s why they rarely see a target unless it’s a broken play. 

again, doesn’t absolve Jalen hurts from not using the guys are on the field especially when they’re open. However, the argument is still the same they are not good enough outside of their top three pass catchers. I’d replace every single one of them besides Oz. He’s fine in his role. To tell you how bad it is I’d rather have Greg ward out there than Quez Watkins, or Julio Jones. And that’s not some accomplishment for Greg Ward. It’s just that I trust ward more than I trust Quez Watkins to actually catch the ball and I think Julio was just done.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’ve tried to watch the Sopranos multiple times and it’s just so boring. Overrated show. Just like the Godfather is such an overrated movie. 

Italians have good food but that’s about it. 

Good trolling bro

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

That’s the funniest part of this. What Toney did was a lot more egregious than what Bradberry did, but if the argument is, it’s still technically a penalty, and needs to be called, then they have no wiggle room to complain now. 
 

They’re staring down the barrel of an eventual road playoff game, and they don’t like it. 

Sadly, the adversity they are facing is from you, Nick. Your plans suck as Chris Long said on RE yesterday. Your DC sucks. They aren't doing their part but it start from the top.

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

That’s the funniest part of this. What Toney did was a lot more egregious than what Bradberry did, but if the argument is, it’s still technically a penalty, and needs to be called, then they have no wiggle room to complain now. 
 

They’re staring down the barrel of an eventual road playoff game, and they don’t like it. 

I said this after they called that penalty on Bradberry. I said it after they called the penalty on sauce gardener this year. And I’ll say it again on this. The officials are looking to make a call late in the game, then you need to be at your very best and simply don’t give them a reason to throw the flag. most critical moment I’m the game you need to be perfect. So your end of the game situation you better not be committing penalties cause there’s a good chance you’re gonna get called on it as the officials are on high alert 

 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I said this after they called that penalty on Bradberry. I said it after they called the penalty on sauce gardener this year. And I’ll say it again on this. The officials are looking to make a call late in the game, then you need to be at your very best and simply don’t give them a reason to throw the flag. most critical moment I’m the game you need to be perfect. So your end of the game situation you better not be committing penalties cause there’s a good chance you’re gonna get called on it as the officials are on high alert 

Toney was lining up offsides a number of times during the game - it's too bad the refs didn't flag him earlier so that it wouldn't become a feature during crunch time.

This in no way absolves Toney or adds any credence to KC's non-sensical whining about a procedural penalty that doesn't require any interpretation.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Toney was lining up offsides a number of times during the game - it's too bad the refs didn't flag him earlier so that it wouldn't become a feature during crunch time.

This in no way absolves Toney or adds any credence to KC's non-sensical whining about a procedural penalty that doesn't require any interpretation.

Officials should’ve flagged him earlier. It was a penalty then as well. With toney it may or may not have prevented it. He’s kind of a low IQ player so chance he does it anyway. 

that said, we know the officials want to throw a flag in crunch time. Not saying it’s wrong or right, but that’s been what we’ve seen. So you have to be on high alert. Be where you’re supposed to be and not committing a penalty. At some point in time when you have enough information to know the officials are looking to throw flag late in games then you better not give them a reason like toney did. 

This is the worst time in the NFL calendar. So much bad football every week. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is the worst time in the NFL calendar. So much bad football every week. 

New Christmas song 

"it’s the worst time of the year. We got injuries flowing. QBs blowing. And coaches that can’t call good plays. It’s the worrrrrrrst time of the yeaaaaarrrrr”

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

New Christmas song 

"it’s the worst time of the year. We got injuries flowing. QBs blowing. And coaches that can’t call good plays. It’s the worrrrrrrst time of the yeaaaaarrrrr”

"If someone could take out Brock and Daq that'd be great"

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

Yeah I think adjustments would help yup. There are much worse defensive groups in the league who are better than us on 3rd down. 
 

Indy, Carolina, Washington, and Arizona are the only teams that get scored on more than us. Also bottom 5 pass yards allowed per game. 

Dead last giving up 48% of 3rd down attempts. Bottom 4 in 1st downs allowed. 2nd to last in passing TDs allowed.

We have enough pieces we just need to change our scheme to alleviate some of the pressure on the weaknesses. If your LBers aren’t good, why have them consistently on the island in a cover 4 scheme? Why not switch to cover 3, 3 high adding a safety into the box with him? 
 

We have a problem impacting the QB. I don’t understand why you would fake a blitz to then fake a coverage to them blitz into a spy on a quick hitting QB. I’d be 100% okay if he went zero blitz on these downs and forced a quick pass, all he’s doing is making the rush worse and the coverage bad  

 

How many times does this defensive unit have to get eviscerated while blitzing before you all realize this team can't afford to blitz ever. Majority of the big plays that these guys have given up have been off of blitzes. They're not built for it right now. Need all the people in coverage and tacklers available that they can get. 

1 minute ago, judunno said:

How many times does this defensive unit have to get eviscerated while blitzing before you all realize this team can't afford to blitz ever. Majority of the big plays that these guys have given up have been off of blitzes. They're not built for it right now. Need all the people in coverage and tacklers available that they can get. 

Gannon coached with a dead hand, we didn't like that much either.  I don't mind blitzing from the LBs or slot because they stink in coverage anyway, but I can't say we've done much to disguise it.