12 minutes ago, judunno said:

How many times does this defensive unit have to get eviscerated while blitzing before you all realize this team can't afford to blitz ever. Majority of the big plays that these guys have given up have been off of blitzes. They're not built for it right now. Need all the people in coverage and tacklers available that they can get. 

Actually thought solak nailed it with his rant in the postgame podcast. The eagles are slow and guys don’t tackle well. Like desai has his issues and warts. He needs to find ways to be better but his adjustments aren’t changing the fact guys are slow and just not very good at a bunch of position. Also pass rush is a problem with Dallas and SF utilized ways to neutralize the pass rush with how they are running their offense (solak also did a good job in breaking that down). I think people are getting caught up in the names on the back of the jersey thinking they are still good. A lot of these guys are better name recognition then their play this year.

I am not bashing reddick here. He’s still been really good this year still. However, the second half of last year you could make the argument he was the best defensive player in the NFL. And if he wasn’t the best, he was at least top 3. He was a DPOY candidate. As good as he’s been this year, he is not top 5 and I’m guessing likely fringe Top 10. He is tied for the 11 best odds right now. So while still really good, he’s not in the same realm of DPOY he was last year. And i don’t think it was Jonathan Gannon as the reason reddick was as great as he was last year. Why i said looking at personnel units from 2022 vs. 2023 can make the argument they downgraded at almost every one of them and then add on guys aren’t having the seasons they had previous year. 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

So that's his real agent? I wasn't watching and saw it on twitter and just thought it was a bit

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

So that's his real agent? I wasn't watching and saw it on twitter and just thought it was a bit

I think it was confirmed that it was. I feel like it’s his cousin. Like the movie my cousin Vinny but with being a sports agent 

16 minutes ago, judunno said:

How many times does this defensive unit have to get eviscerated while blitzing before you all realize this team can't afford to blitz ever. Majority of the big plays that these guys have given up have been off of blitzes. They're not built for it right now. Need all the people in coverage and tacklers available that they can get. 

A lot of our blitzes aren’t blitzes. They’re coming from far away or he’s falling a blitz then pulling 3 guys late into coverage(which they’re already bad at). Or he’s doing these god awful false blitzes that I cannot understand for the life of me why you would fake a blitz, drop to coverage, and then blitz lol. His blitzes are anti-blitzes lol. They slow everything down and open up holes in coverage. Instead of speeding up the rush and forcing throws to specific spots. 

3 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

One quick comment about the game on Sunday night.

Since 2006, Eagles opponents have attempted nine field goals from 58 yards and beyond. They've made eight of them. The odds of a kick being made from that distance is roughly the same as a very good baseball hitter getting a hit. Roughly.

So basically over the past seventeen years the Eagles have faced Wade Boggs nine times and have only gotten him out once. I'm too lazy to calculate the odds of something like that happening, but I've got to think it's about one percent. Good hitters actually make outs much more often than not.

We're NOT imagining it. This idea that "other teams don't miss LONG kicks against us" is valid. I've gotten to the point where I just resign myself to the fact any such kick is going to be made.

Thanks for posting that. I wonder how that compares to the rest of the league. What year was the Tampa Bay 62 yarder?

11 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Gannon coached with a dead hand, we didn't like that much either.  I don't mind blitzing from the LBs or slot because they stink in coverage anyway, but I can't say we've done much to disguise it.

LBs blitzing leaves an even bigger void over the middle for exploitation. We know it's pitch and catch biggest hope is they can limit YAC. They have been horrid at that when blitzing and less guys in position to tackle.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

to your last point Jim Johnson did that with Trent cole. Wilks and demeco Ryan have done it last two years with bosa (and they had far better linebackers then the eagles and shouldn’t have done it). Dan Quinn has done that with parsons. You act like it’s exclusive to him. No, there’s been a lot of really good defensive coordinators that have tried this. It’s cause you want to try and throw something against the wall to see if you can confuse the Qb into making a mistake. Again, you seem to think Desai is the only person ever to have call. I am telling you right now Jim Johnson use to do it with Cole. 

I never said don’t make adjustments. However, you seem to think making adjustments is going to make up for bad personnel for the entire game or year. It’s a short term solution. Those adjustments will work for a series or maybe two and eventually those opposing teams are going to figure it out and the beat you because your personnel isn’t good enough and find your weakness and exploit it  

Did he not make adjustments in the second half? The obvious answer is yes whether not you want to admit it or not. And yet some of those adjustments worked for a little bit. However, at the end of the day that was still was not enough as Dallas cracked the code and was able to move the ball because their personnel was able to exploit the same weak personnel on the field for the eagles.

You seem to think teams are not gonna find a weakness on the Eagles because he’s making adjustments to try and cover them? Second half we did that. It worked for 2 series then the dam broke cause their personnel can’t match Dallas and with theirs. At some point in time adjustments are doomed to fail cause personnel isn’t good enough.

I am not desai is some great DC. I have no clue wtf he is. However, I’m guessing if we had 2022 personnel as compared to 2023 personnel the defense probably looks much better. I don’t think you grasp how much of a downgrade every positional unit they made this year. And then when you throw in a much tougher schedule, ton of guys lacking nfl experience, at least 3 starters who have no business being starters in the nfl at this stage of their careers and a coordinator here for the first time you were always going to have problems. The delusion people had on here that Carter as a rookie and Davis alone were gonna make up for losing hargrave, suh and Jospeh was always hilarious to me. Reason why hargrave was as good as he was. The delusion that Blankenship and whatever other S they threw out with him was gonna be as good as CJGJ and Epps was also laughable. But not as laughable as having no viable backup solution if maddox got hurt besides an unproven mcphearson who also got hurt  

Desai is a problem. He’s not absolve from any blame. He has his issues and warts. However, the overwhelming massively bigger problem is the Eagles personnel isn’t very good and not good enough against Sf or Dallas. That’s from offseason Decisions and an offseason fix. Adjustments will work for a series or two like the second half then ultimately still doomed to fail due to personnel.

if you want to talk about philosophically and organizationally the Eagles want to play a Fangio defense/death by a 1000 paper cuts we can have that discussion. Because I don’t think it works well enough in today’s NFL anymore. Have to create turnovers to have success in this league. Meaning you need more playmakers. I think offenses have learned how to attack it. That’s why Miami had the issues it had last night. It’s why when they face top 10 offenses this year they’ve struggled mightily. It’s a defense that worked really well a couple years ago but the league has caught up to it.

 

 

Yeah it’s super easy to attack, the middle of the field will be wide open and you run off DBs deep and open everything from 7-20 yards lol. I can’t stand it. 
 

I think the scheme and DC stink and they need to hire someone who will challenge the fish to get uncomfortable and run some actual defense that looks to create problems for the offense not cross your fingers hoping they make a mistake. 

1 minute ago, judunno said:

LBs blitzing leaves an even bigger void over the middle for exploitation. We know it's pitch and catch biggest hope is they can limit YAC. They have been horrid at that when blitzing and less guys in position to tackle.

We sent 5+ rushers against purdy. He was 10-11 for 238 yards and 3tds. And a 9.4 yards per attempt which was the best this year of any Qb against the blitz/5+ pass rushers. So doing that against SF is likely not the solution. 

1 minute ago, GoEagles614 said:

A lot of our blitzes aren’t blitzes. They’re coming from far away or he’s falling a blitz then pulling 3 guys late into coverage(which they’re already bad at). Or he’s doing these god awful false blitzes that I cannot understand for the life of me why you would fake a blitz, drop to coverage, and then blitz lol. His blitzes are anti-blitzes lol. They slow everything down and open up holes in coverage. Instead of speeding up the rush and forcing throws to specific spots. 

I'm talking about real blitzes.... they're toast when they do it. QBs are getting the ball out too quick for them to get home and the D is giving up big X plays as a result. They suck at it... and don't disguise it well. They don't have the personnel to hold up when it inevitably doesn't get home. I really don't want to see anymore blitzing giving up these big plays. It killed them the last two weeks.

7 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Yeah it’s super easy to attack, the middle of the field will be wide open and you run off DBs deep and open everything from 7-20 yards lol. I can’t stand it. 
 

I think the scheme and DC stink and they need to hire someone who will challenge the fish to get uncomfortable and run some actual defense that looks to create problems for the offense not cross your fingers hoping they make a mistake. 

Schwartz did this. Gannon did this. Desai did this. At what point does it become less about the defensive coordinator and more about what the Eagles philosophy as an organization? 3 different coordinators all did the same thing. The conversation needs to be the eagles organizational philosophy needs to change. Cause changing DCs is just swapping out one for another who’s gonna be asked to do the same thing. Which then comes back to their personnel is a bigger problem because they don’t have the personnel to run the defense they way they expect and want to do.

just saying last night the dolphins ran a lot of the same things that we do. I would argue Howard and Ramsey are better than our corners. So this isn’t really a change the defensive coordinator and problem solved.

Just now, judunno said:

I'm talking about real blitzes.... they're toast when they do it. QBs are getting the ball out too quick for them to get home and the D is giving up big X plays as a result. They suck at it... and don't disguise it well. They don't have the personnel to hold up when it inevitably doesn't get home. I really don't want to see anymore blitzing giving up these big plays. It killed them the last two weeks.

Posting coverage isn’t helping either lol. I’d rather get within 4 yards of the WRs and send blitzes on 3rd and medium instead of playing 10 yards off for the Easy timing throws. 

59 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

That’s the funniest part of this. What Toney did was a lot more egregious than what Bradberry did, but if the argument is, it’s still technically a penalty, and needs to be called, then they have no wiggle room to complain now. 
 

They’re staring down the barrel of an eventual road playoff game, and they don’t like it. 

 

I'm just happy that the rest of Mahomes is finally starting to see Mahomes for the total baby that he is who has been bailed out way more than he's ever been screwed by the refs.

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Thanks for posting that. I wonder how that compares to the rest of the league. What year was the Tampa Bay 62 yarder?

2006. 

Just now, GoEagles614 said:

Posting coverage isn’t helping either lol. I’d rather get within 4 yards of the WRs and send blitzes on 3rd and medium instead of playing 10 yards off for the Easy timing throws. 

That's a recipe for disaster and we've seen it two weeks in a row. I disagree. Rather not see teams put up big points because they're getting toasted by the blitz. Death by 1000 cuts is better for this defense because at least then the offense can potentially make a mistake or stall in the red zone. We hate it but this defense is built for bend but don't break and needs big leads and TOS. They're not going to be able to suddenly change that at this stage of the season.

9 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Yeah it’s super easy to attack, the middle of the field will be wide open and you run off DBs deep and open everything from 7-20 yards lol. I can’t stand it. 
 

 

The middle is easy....like how they had it working vs the 49ers and BJ and Nick were like F that S**** we can't keep doing it if it's working. Let's try some other BS that they can cover.

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

I'm talking about real blitzes.... they're toast when they do it. QBs are getting the ball out too quick for them to get home and the D is giving up big X plays as a result. They suck at it... and don't disguise it well. They don't have the personnel to hold up when it inevitably doesn't get home. I really don't want to see anymore blitzing giving up these big plays. It killed them the last two weeks.

At this point I'd be happy with an effective sticks defense  - we gets teams into 3rd and longs...

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Schwartz did this. Gannon did this. Desai did this. At what point does it become less about the defensive coordinator and more about what the Eagles philosophy as an organization? 3 different coordinators all did the same thing. The conversation needs to be the eagles organizational philosophy needs to change. Cause changing DCs is just swapping out one for another who’s gonna be asked to do the same thing. 

It's definitely the Eagles philosophy. Only saving grace is if the DL is totally dominant with this approach and the rest of the team tackles well.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Or....how they had it working vs the 49ers and BJ and Nick were like F that S**** we can't keep doing it if it's working. Let's try some other BS that they can cover.

It was working cause of pass rush was working in the first quarter. The pass rush is completely disappeared in the second quarter onward. It wasn’t because they were blitzing against Brock Purdy. they sent 5+ rushers 11 times. He completed 10 passes for 9.4 yards per attempt. three touchdowns and 238 yards. So it worked? No 

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

At this point I'd be happy with an effective sticks defense  - we gets teams into 3rd and longs...

Tell me about it... how often have we seen these dudes give up penalties on 3rd and longs for first downs. It's like a freakin given at this point 

The civil suit against Araiza is over. Wonder if anyone signs him now.

2 minutes ago, judunno said:

It's definitely the Eagles philosophy. Only saving grace is if the DL is totally dominant with this approach and the rest of the team tackles well.

Yup. That’s why I keep saying you’re gonna fire Desai and you’re just gonna get a new desai. This is how they want to play. So the bigger issue with a Philadelphia Eagles is either philosophically approach to defense where they need to change the approach. Or really the biggest issue they don’t have the personnel to run the defensive want to.

Well, maybe it is this easy to explain

 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It was working cause of pass rush was working in the first quarter. The pass rush is completely disappeared in the second quarter onward. It wasn’t because they were blitzing against Brock Purdy. they sent 5+ rushers 11 times. He completed 10 passes for 9.4 yards per attempt. three touchdowns and 238 yards. So it worked? No 

I feel like the line still gets pressure but has no pass rush/lane discipline. We get gouged when QBs escape and extend plays. It feels like Desai has them all rushing with no discipline or coordination.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The civil suit against Araiza is over. Wonder if anyone signs him now.

The funny/sad/scary part is any journalist on twitter who jumped to conclusions and spotlighted the original story will remain dead silent with this news. They won’t broadcast their errors or correct the original take.