17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

We sent 5+ rushers against purdy. He was 10-11 for 238 yards and 3tds. And a 9.4 yards per attempt which was the best this year of any Qb against the blitz/5+ pass rushers. So doing that against SF is likely not the solution. 

Many times that 5 was 3 DT and 2 Ends. While his DBs were floating 15 yards away. Can’t blitz and play soft. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. That’s why I keep saying you’re gonna fire Desai and you’re just gonna get a new desai. This is how they want to play. So the bigger issue with a Philadelphia Eagles is either philosophically approach to defense where they need to change the approach. Or really the biggest issue they don’t have the personnel to run the defensive want to.

It's analytics driven. My thing is if you're going to play this type of D you need great physical tacklers at all levels. I mean really punish guys for making those inevitable receptions. We don't have that.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I feel like the line still gets pressure but has no pass rush/lane discipline. We get gouged when QBs escape and extend plays. It feels like Desai has them all rushing with no discipline or coordination.

I’d blame desai but really they had this issue last Super Bowl with mahomes as well. Only game they really didn’t last year with a mobile Qb was Daniel jones who frankly sucks. 

Just now, judunno said:

It's analytics driven. My thing is if you're going to play this type of D you need great physical tacklers at all levels. I mean really punish guys for making those inevitable receptions. We don't have that.

You also have to have better speed than they do. They’re slow. So sometimes it’s not even about that making the tackle, they don’t even get there to make the tackle. They are a slow defense. Add on not great at tackling. It’s why I keep saying their biggest issue is personnel driven. They are other issues. But that’s the biggest one.

Schwartz could actually get off the field on 3rd down. I believe he averaged a top 10 unit while he was in Philly in that regard. Which is probably the most important team defense stat there is, and saves our Defense’s energy, gets ball back to the offense, and throws opposing offenses out of Rythm. I don’t care what scheme you want to run, on 3rd down you have to get off the field no matter how it looks. 

3 hours ago, Next_Up said:

Coming off a SB year, losing key players to FA, adding a new OC and DC and looking at arguably the toughest stretch in a schedule in recent history, what were your expectations? If they win vs the Hawks, which is a really tough place to win, and they come out of that stretch 4-2 are we then going to complain about style points? 

It's not that they lost; it's how they lost.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

My biggest long-term concern with the Eagles right now is Sirianni. Howie will add pieces to the defense if it proves to be the downfall this season, no one in the NFL can turn a broken unit around better than Howie. Also if things get really bad defensively, like if they lose a playoff game in embarrassing fashion like they did vs SF, Desai could get canned.

The offense, not worried about the talent.

But I don't know what to make of Sirianni as an offensive schemer and that's the most important thing you can have in an offensive head coach. If it turns out he's not a good offensive schemer, he's not going to be long for the NFL as a head coach, because the rah rah stuff will wear out its welcome before long. And the whole point of having an offensive head coach is so the brains behind your offense don't get hired away when you're successful and you can have consistency with your offense and QB.

Hopefully the offense comes out the last month and looks a lot better, but Sirianni was a hire from day one I had no idea what to make of the guy(nobody did really) and I've just been evaluating him as we go. I've never drew a final conclusion one way or the other on him. So far he's had a lot of success, but the offensive metrics in this offense and how vanilla it is are really starting to worry me.

The Eagles finally have elite talent on offense but they lack the coaching to utilize them. They are wasting DeVonta Smith. He can run circles around DBs with his route running but do they take advantage of that? Nope. AJ Brown can be a bully in the middle of the field. Do they ever take advantage of it? Nope. Dallas Goedert is a mismatch at TE. When's the last great play we've seen for Goedert where it's a clear the coaches are taking advantage of that? Never happens. 

Flip it back to 1999-2012, the Eagles had an elite offensive mind and coaching staff but lacked elite talent. 

Would be nice if the Eagles actually realized how badly misused these players are.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You also have to have better speed than they do. They’re slow. So sometimes it’s not even about that making the tackle, they don’t even get there to make the tackle. They are a slow defense. Add on not great at tackling. It’s why I keep saying their biggest issue is personnel driven. They are other issues. But that’s the biggest one.

The tackling isn't even that big of a problem. It's not why they're converting so many 3rd downs.

The lack of speed 100% shows up. Sydney Brown is the only fast player in the back 7. Bradberry, Byard, Cunningham, Roby and Morrow are slow for their positions. Slay is probably average at this point. 

2 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Schwartz could actually get off the field on 3rd down. I believe he averaged a top 10 unit while he was in Philly in that regard. Which is probably the most important team defense stat there is, and saves our Defense’s energy, gets ball back to the offense, and throws opposing offenses out of Rythm. I don’t care what scheme you want to run, on 3rd down you have to get off the field no matter how it looks. 

Schwartz is one of the best coordinators in the league. And people still wanted to run him off because he was doing the same play off 7-10 yards. You act like people were on here werent criticizing him. I know because I defended him during that time too. If we are expecting desai to be Jim Schwartz after 14 games then that is laughable. Jim Schwarz has decades in the NFL as a defensive coordinator, and even a head coach. Just to point out Jim Schwartz wasn’t Jim Schwartz when he first started. 

11 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Many times that 5 was 3 DT and 2 Ends. While his DBs were floating 15 yards away. Can’t blitz and play soft. 

The penny front worked against SF until they adjusted by throwing to the flat and forcing our DBs (Slay) to tackle and challenging our LBs (Morrow) to quickly read/react/get to the sideline through trash... didn't happen and it forced Desai out of that look and into a 4DL front which was softer against the run.

3 hours ago, Next_Up said:

Coming off a SB year, losing key players to FA, adding a new OC and DC and looking at arguably the toughest stretch in a schedule in recent history, what were your expectations? If they win vs the Hawks, which is a really tough place to win, and they come out of that stretch 4-2 are we then going to complain about style points? 

Sooner or later there needs to be accountability and adjustments made.  If they keep doing what they’re doing, they’re not going anywhere, anytime soon.  Teams watch tapes and you’d better believe teams will bring their A games in the playoffs.

 

Top tier, elite level teams may lose but they rarely get blown out 2 weeks in a row.  That’s the issue.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

The tackling isn't even that big of a problem. It's not why they're converting so many 3rd downs.

The lack of speed 100% shows up. Sydney Brown is the only fast player in the back 7. Bradberry, Byard, Cunningham, Roby and Morrow are slow for their positions. Slay is probably average at this point. 

I do think tackling is an issue at certain spots. pass rush at times has that issue.

that said they have a personnel problem because they’re slow. They don’t have the guys on defense to run the what they are asking because of their back 7 is slow. Howie added to the slowness with byard. so I think the bigger issue here is that they have a personnel issue. This is way bigger of a personnel problem and issues get solved then change the coordinator problem and issues are solved 

 

 

20 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Other teams likely the Phillies are gonna begin doing this. It’s gonna make for super teams and avoiding elevated luxury taxes. 

There's also an income tax benefit to deferring the money.  You can set up a Rabbi Trust that serves an investment device for the money.  He then can make withdraws after a vesting period and only be taxed on the withdraw rather than capital gains on the growth. 

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It was working cause of pass rush was working in the first quarter. The pass rush is completely disappeared in the second quarter onward. It wasn’t because they were blitzing against Brock Purdy. they sent 5+ rushers 11 times. He completed 10 passes for 9.4 yards per attempt. three touchdowns and 238 yards. So it worked? No 

The slants were working and BJ stopped exposing the middle of the field on offense 

16 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

The slants were working and BJ stopped exposing the middle of the field on offense 

We talking offense or defense? I’m strictly talking defense with desai 

18 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

There's also an income tax benefit to deferring the money.  You can set up a Rabbi Trust that serves an investment device for the money.  He then can make withdraws after a vesting period and only be taxed on the withdraw rather than capital gains on the growth. 

He can also move out of CA before receiving the money, which is a huge benefit.

47 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, maybe it is this easy to explain

 

Should've made him DC instead of Desai

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Should've made him DC instead of Desai

Desai really setting back my people's reputation...

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Desai really setting back my people's reputation...

Might be in the same boat soon. Sirianni will be doing the same if he doesn't pull his head outta his ass soon and get this offense back on track.

20 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Baseball particularly the MLB players association didn’t want a salary cap. This is the type of contract that gives Creedence to the fact that they need a salary cap. It’s basically to circumvent the luxury tax in hopes to create a super team. That’s essentially what they’re doing. And you’ve opened up Pandora’s box, because it’s not gonna just be the Dodgers who do this. You’re gonna get teams like the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Mets, the Phillies, and other big market teams.

Ohtani feels like a special case due to how much he’s going to be making off the field the next ten years with endorsements and his draw in Japan. I don’t know how many guys are going to want to defer making all their money until ten years down the line. It makes sense if it’s Ohtani’s case, but I don’t know if a Mike Trout type of guy (who has zero marketing/endorsement appeal) would have done something like this. 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

We talking offense or defense? I’m strictly talking defense with desai 

Offense. Their middle was open in that game as well

6 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Ohtani feels like a special case due to how much he’s going to be making off the field the next ten years with endorsements and his draw in Japan. I don’t know how many guys are going to want to defer making all their money until ten years down the line. It makes sense if it’s Ohtani’s case, but I don’t know if a Mike Trout type of guy (who has zero marketing/endorsement appeal) would have done something like this. 

I kind of think bryce would’ve been a guy who’d have done this. I also think a guy like soto won’t defer as much money but will likely be willing to. They also get the benefit of not just tax breaks for the team and themselves, but chance surround themselves with better players that helps with their legacy and ability to win. 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Offense. Their middle was open in that game as well

Why i said I’m way more frustrated with sirianni and Johnson. They have really no reason to be as frustrating as they are. Everyone is healthy and it’s like pulling teeth for halves of games. 

I think people are jumping off the ship on the offense a little too quick after the Dallas game. Hurts moved the ball fine and made good throws. The drops and fumbles killed them from putting up at least 20+. I’m not saying they win the game, but it wouldn’t have looked like as bad as a loss and we would just be complaining about the defense like we have all season. The pass interference on AJ during the Goedert play was killer too.