Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Idk but maybe you throw to them more cause it’s not Watkins out there dropping passes that are thrown right to him. Maybe hurts and the eagles coaches don’t have to hope all 3 guys just stay healthy to have a consistent offense 

I’m not disagreeing with trying to add to the depth, but that’s not near the top of the list is issues this team is having right now.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

YIKKKKES Nick. Your passing game runs through 3 guys? I mean, I get it but at the same time, what in the world? Yes, AJ, DeVonta and Goedert are your top 3 guys but that essentially tells me that they do nothing to game plan their RB as weapons in the passing game when all 3 have shown they can, yes I'm even including the guy I hate the most in KG. If this is how the coaching staff thinks, I don't see things improving.

 

This is Siri's plan man I've been trying to tell yaw. But it's Hurts... he can't read the field blah blah blah. The design and plans encourages this behavior.  Give BJ the keys and step away Mr. Siri.

This is a major part of the problem with the offense now.  Hurts is forcing throws downfield.  It isn't just the play calls.  It's the decisions our QB is making. 

 

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

OZ had 1 target, 1 catch for 28 yards.

Punter threw him that ball lol.

Just now, Parrot Head said:

I’m not disagreeing with trying to add to the depth, but that’s not near the top of the list is issues this team is having right now.

It’s not my biggest issue. However i do think it was an issue when goedert was out. Teams knew the eagles were likely throwing to just smith and brown. It’s an easier offense to defend knowing you likely aren’t gonna throw it anywhere else or the other guys aren’t competent enough to beat you when one of those guys is out. 

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This is a major part of the problem with the offense now.  Hurts is forcing throws downfield.  It isn't just the play calls.  It's the decisions our QB is making. 

 

Brown dropped that first ball... it was right in his hands.  Couldn't hand it to him any better.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s not my biggest issue. However i do think it was an issue when goedert was out. Teams knew the eagles were likely throwing to just smith and brown. It’s an easier offense to defend knowing you likely aren’t gonna throw it anywhere else or the other guys aren’t competent enough to beat you when one of those guys is out. 

I mean, yeah when you lose one of your elite guys you’re gonna feel it.

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Brown dropped that first ball... it was right in his hands.  Couldn't hand it to him any better.

He also stepped out of bounds in the process. 

It was third and five.  Take the higher percentage throws and move the sticks.  Dak was doing it all game.

10 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Eagles or Jalen Hurts? 

 

I think the Cowboy game may have been an anomoly and just the way the game played out.  If you look at the cumulative stats for the year the Cowboys and Eagles are very similar in distribution/targets with their top 4 or 5 receivers, both include 2 WRs, TE, and 2 RB - Eagles, 3 WR's, TE, and a RB - Cowboys. 

Someone also mentioned snap count, yeh, Brown and Smith regularly are carrying a lot of the load, probably too much, and that likely takes a toll this late in the year. Zacch and Quez could help with that if allowed to, but at the same time how often are the Eagles in 3 WR sets? Judging by Zacch's # of snaps in the last 4 weeks decreasing and Quez's snaps increasing, maybe they are in 3 wr sets more often than the stats show but using Quez more often lately, but yeh, that is a lot of snaps for the top two receivers.

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This is a major part of the problem with the offense now.  Hurts is forcing throws downfield.  It isn't just the play calls.  It's the decisions our QB is making. 

 

That's the comment I made at halftime in the Chiefs and Bills games.  Really bad decision making; I think something was lost with the change in offensive coordinators.  Not trying to dump on Brian Johnson in his first year as OC, but he's got to impress the importance of decision making on Hurts.

The offense hasn't been pulling their weight early in games and the defense is on the field too much (it's a mid-tier defense, at best).  

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He also stepped out of bounds in the process. 

It was third and five.  Take the higher percentage throws and move the sticks.  Dak was doing it all game.

Exactly. Want to throw to these three and Swift? OK but throw some EASIER and QUICKER passes. FFS.  This is not that hard. Why do they make easy hard?

More context.

 

15 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

I mean, yeah when you lose one of your elite guys you’re gonna feel it.

Yes, but you shouldn’t be at the point where you still don’t even throw it to any of those guys when 1 of them is out. There’s other teams in the league of 2 good wide receivers and the third isn’t a titanic size drop off to quez. Like Quez shouldn’t be making $2 mil nor on the team. Almost every time they throw it to quez becomes a negative play. You shouldn’t have to rely on a third wide receiver. That’s a negative play waiting to happen and you’ve known that for three years now. They could’ve drafted or went out and signed somebody who could fit that role so you’re not completely incompetent in it

this is an about having a drop off because you lost an elite player. This is about not having competency when the player is there or when the player is gone. It’s a really bad plan to just assume all three are going to stay healthy, especially Dallas goedert has proven that he can’t. So your plan better not be well you don’t have to be competent behind those 3 because we are the only throw to the three

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes, but you shouldn’t be at the point where you still don’t even throw it to any of those guys when 1 of them is out. There’s other teams in the league of 2 good wide receivers and the third isn’t a titanic size drop off to quez. Like Quez shouldn’t be making $2 mil nor on the team. Almost every time they throw it to quez becomes a negative play. You shouldn’t have to rely on a third wide receiver. That’s a negative play waiting to happen and you’ve known that for three years now. They could’ve drafted or went out and signed somebody who could fit that rule so you’re not completely incompetent in it

Again, I’m all for improving the depth if it can be done at a reasonable cost. Lord knows I’ve had my issues with Quez. But there will be much higher priorities this off season, so we will see.

But people complaining about our 3 elite guys getting fed the ball seems odd to me.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

That's the comment I made at halftime in the Chiefs and Bills games.  Really bad decision making; I think something was lost with the change in offensive coordinators.  Not trying to dump on Brian Johnson in his first year as OC, but he's got to impress the importance of decision making on Hurts.

The offense hasn't been pulling their weight early in games and the defense is on the field too much (it's a mid-tier defense, at best).  

My two cents...

The advanced analytics show that the Eagles are seeing much, much more cover-2 than last season - to take away the deep shot opportunities that had been a big part of the offense in 2022.  I think that Hurts is knee-jerking to a deep ball whenever he sees single-high pre-snap.  I am positive he did that on the TD to Brown against the Commanders - instead of controlling the clock.  It may just be a maturity thing.  But it needs to be mitigated.

19 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He also stepped out of bounds in the process. 

It was third and five.  Take the higher percentage throws and move the sticks.  Dak was doing it all game.

Brown typically makes those plays.

8 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Again, I’m all for improving the depth if it can be done at a reasonable cost. Lord knows I’ve had my issues with Quez. But there will be much higher priorities this off season, so we will see.

But people complaining about our 3 elite guys getting fed the ball seems odd to me.

Where am I complaining about it? However, it is a really bad plan to just be over reliant on just throwing to those three especially when the Dallas Goedert doesn’t stay healthy for full seasons. AJ Brown before he came to us he missed 4 weeks in 2021 and 2.5 in 2020. might want to try to be more competent then a broken down julio jones, a bad quez watkins, Stoll who isn’t a receiving threat, Calcaterra who also doesn’t stay healthy. My argument has consistently been you should not be that terrible behind your top three guys. I think part of the reason why they don’t run anything for those guys even when those guys leave the field is cause they know those guys suck 

 

22 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He also stepped out of bounds in the process. 

It was third and five.  Take the higher percentage throws and move the sticks.  Dak was doing it all game.

He also took his fair share of shots down field on third down 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Where am I complaining about it? However, it is a really bad plan to just be over reliant on just throwing to those three especially when the Dallas Goedert doesn’t stay healthy for full seasons. AJ Brown before he came to us he missed 4 weeks in 2021 and 2.5 in 2020. might want to try to be more competent then a broken down julio jones, a bad quez watkins, Stoll who isn’t a receiving threat, Calcaterra who also doesn’t stay healthy. My argument has consistently been you should not be that terrible behind your top three guys. I think part of the reason why they don’t run anything for those guys even when those guys leave the field is cause they know those guys suck 

 

I don’t know if you are, but several people were. And it’s odd.

50 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This is a major part of the problem with the offense now.  Hurts is forcing throws downfield.  It isn't just the play calls.  It's the decisions our QB is making. 

 

Doesn't look like plays a 250 mil QB1 should be making

25 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

I don’t know if you are, but several people were. And it’s odd.

I look at it this way, one of those guys goes down, the eagles are completely incompetent behind them. Goedert gets hurt for 3 games, eagles lose 1/3 of their pass catchers and the entire position is nonexistent. Meanwhile ravens lost andrews. I’d argue they’re best playmaker and pass catcher on offense. Now their backup is never going to step in and be andrews. But Isaiah likely plays decently and competently. So you don’t just entirely lose that position and take it out of the offense.

This offseason they should address upgrading their no. 3 wr and backup TE. cause at some point in time being over-reliant on 3 guys is gonna get you with an injury. And the guys behind them don’t have to be world beaters. Just average would be a significant upgrade.

I would also fire Moorehead the wide receivers coach. AJ Brown was already great before he got here. Indont think it was moorehead who made him great. DeVonta Smith won a Heisman in college. so he was pretty Fing good before he got here. He had Watkins for years now and Watkins has gotten worse. I also know we have WRs making the same penalties and poor blocking besides smith  

 

50 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He also stepped out of bounds in the process. 

It was third and five.  Take the higher percentage throws and move the sticks.  Dak was doing it all game.

Yeah, the ball to Smith could have been close to a first if he ran. Control it and let the defense rest.

42 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

More context.

 

Are we trying to win a SB though? Cause those are the teams we need to play well against. 

Eagles will beat Seattle. Book it.

1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said:

Eagles will beat Seattle. Book it.

I already knew that.