June 1, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, SNOORDA said: I did. Because I couldn’t imagine any other reasoning for doing it. Sue me as far as this yellow star patch issue goes, I think unless you are of Jewish decent you shouldn’t be using the holocaust or items from it to teach or make any point whatsoever. So you must be Jewish to talk about the yellow star of David patches, but not to name your football plays after Auschwitz? Okey dokey.
June 1, 20214 yr On 5/31/2021 at 8:52 AM, Bwestbrook36 said: You don't know Hitler could of been a nice guy! Some people suggest that Hitler was a great leader for getting his people out a depression. He violated the Versailles treaty and illegally built up his military creating thousands of Jobs and boosting manufacturing all with the plan of Conquering the World. Some great leader. FDR got his people out of depression by investing in manufacturing to build roads, bridges, hydro electric damns, the electric grid and put people to work legitimately. Good won over evil. The Liberal Plan was better than the Fascists plan.
June 1, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So you must be Jewish to talk about yellow star of David patches, but not to name your football plays after Auschwitz? Okey dokey. It's very clear why he reacts the way he does. The fact that he read that article and took issue with the author rather than the actual subject says all you need to really know.
June 1, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Some people suggest that Hitler was a great leader for getting his people out a depression. He violated the Versailles treaty and illegally built up his military creating thousands of Jobs and boosting manufacturing all with the plan of Conquering the World. Some great leader. FDR got his people out of depression by investing in manufacturing to build roads, bridges, hydro electric damns, the electric grid and put people to work legitimately. Good won over evil. The Liberal Plan was better than the Fascists plan. Tbh, FDR never succeeded in getting the U.S. out of the Depression. It was mobilization for war that decreased unemployment to nearly zero. Don’t get me wrong - his job programs helped. But while the government was employing 1 million people there were still 10 million people without jobs.
June 1, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Paul852 said: It's very clear why he reacts the way he does. The fact that he read that article and took issue with the author rather than the actual subject says all you need to really know. Yea, I mean, I'm more confused with his reaction than anything else about the story. Crazy hat store lady was trying to profit off of some anti-vax crap by following MTG's insanity in comparing genocide to being suggested to get vaccinated. So cnn posts an article that calls her out for it, and he's like "cnn is denying the holocaust!" Pretty F'ing weird to say the least.
June 1, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Some people suggest that Hitler was a great leader for getting his people out a depression. He violated the Versailles treaty and illegally built up his military creating thousands of Jobs and boosting manufacturing all with the plan of Conquering the World. Some great leader. FDR got his people out of depression by investing in manufacturing to build roads, bridges, hydro electric damns, the electric grid and put people to work legitimately. Good won over evil. The Liberal Plan was better than the Fascists plan. I was making that sarcastic remark because the other flat earther that used to roam these boards said he wasn't around for the Holocaust and we never met Hitler. So we don't know that any of that happened and Hitler could of been a great guy and misunderstood for all we know.
June 1, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Tbh, FDR never succeeded in getting the U.S. out of the Depression. It was mobilization for war that decreased unemployment to nearly zero. Don’t me wrong his job programs helped. But while the government was employing 1 million people there were still 10 million people without jobs. Yes. Regarding unemployment. FDR did slash the military budget. Recovery was the effort in numerous programs to restore the economy to normal health. By most economic indicators, this was achieved by 1937—except for unemployment, which remained stubbornly high until World War II began. Recovery was designed to help the economy bounce back from depression.
June 1, 20214 yr On 5/31/2021 at 12:09 PM, SNOORDA said: I get that part. I just don’t get the article coming off as if the holocaust happening is up for debate. It's only up for debate, by those who deny history and science, are biased against Jews and believe alternative facts, instead. Mel Gibson and his father are good examples.
June 1, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So you must be Jewish to talk about the yellow star of David patches, but not to name your football plays after Auschwitz? Okey dokey. to be fair I think what snoorda was saying is that attempting to profit from sales of yellow star patches is pretty gauche regardless, and that if you're not Jewish using them to make some kind of political statement is .. well, wrong.
June 1, 20214 yr 22 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Also, the anti-vaccine crowd isn’t nearly as cool as they think they are. Unfortunately I got some extended family members in this group. Same. We have a large family gathering next week with my anti-vax Trumpbot relatives. Should be fun.
June 1, 20214 yr Well at least the racist kid's racist parents admit Hitler killed 6 million. Shocking. Nationalism and Xenophobia are accomplishments. So is murdering your political opponents to obtain power. Night of the long knives and the blood purge. Accomploshiments. https://www.yahoo.com/news/students-report-hitlers-accomplishments-displayed-143829369.html Student's report on Hitler's 'accomplishments' was displayed in an elementary school for weeks, parent says William Westhoven, NorthJersey.com Tue, June 1, 2021, 11:59 AM TENAFLY, N.J. – Residents expressed shock over the weekend about a student-written biography of Adolf Hitler that hung in the Maugham Elementary School for weeks. The fifth-grade assignment included the student dressing as Hitler, according to the parent of another student whose account was shared online. The one-page bio, written in the NSDAP leader's voice, was displayed in the elementary school's hallway with similar assignments from other students starting in April, according to Lori Birk of Englewood, who posted a picture of the report on Facebook. "My greatest accomplishment was uniting a great mass of German and Austrian people behind me," the student wrote in pencil on a paper circle titled "Accomplishments." The parent of a Maugham Elementary School student in Tenafly said this biography assignment of Adolf Hitler, written by a fifth-grader, was posted in the school's hallway for at least two weeks in April. The district is investigating. More The essay also noted, "I was very popular and many people followed me until I died. My belif (sic) in antisemitism drove me to kill more than 6 million Jews.” In a letter posted on the district website Sunday, Superintendent Shauna DeMarco said she learned Friday of "a serious matter involving a school project completed recently on Adolf Hitler.” "I have requested that all associated information related to this project be provided to me," DeMarco wrote to parents and staff. "Once I receive and review the full information, I will determine any further action that should be taken.” DeMarco declined a request for additional information Monday, telling The Record and NorthJersey.com, part of the USA TODAY Network, she could not comment without compromising "the integrity of the investigation, the rights of those involved and any responsive actions that may be required." The investigation will resume on Tuesday, the superintendent said, promising that it would be "concluded as swiftly as possible."
June 1, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: to be fair I think what snoorda was saying is that attempting to profit from sales of yellow star patches is pretty gauche regardless, and that if you're not Jewish using them to make some kind of political statement is .. well, wrong. That's totally fair if that's what he was trying to convey, but what's weird is claiming cnn is trying to deny the holocaust, and it's also bizarre in light of his previous comments about the football coach using football plays as a teaching moment or whatever the hell he was trying to argue.
June 1, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: It's only up for debate, by those who deny history and science, are biased against Jews and believe alternative facts, instead. Mel Gibson and his father are good examples. It’s not only insulting to the Jewish people but to all those who gave their lives to defeating hitler. Same goes for people who call other people hitler or a NSDAP for some minor offense imo
June 1, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, SNOORDA said: It’s not only insulting to the Jewish people but to all those who gave their lives to defeating hitler. Same goes for people who call other people hitler or a NSDAP for some minor offense imo Um...that article in no way is trying to deny the holocaust happened. It simply quoted experts, who of course in no way tried to deny that the holocaust happened. Talk about burying the lead. What in the F are you even talking about in this thread?
June 1, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Um...that article in no way is trying to deny the holocaust happened. It simply quoted experts, who of course in no way tried to deny that the holocaust happened. Talk about burying the lead. What in the F are you even talking about in this thread? Man, thank you. I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't understand what the hell he was getting at.
June 1, 20214 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Man, thank you. I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't understand what the hell he was getting at. I read that article twice and I have no idea what his point even is. The fact that the article deferred to the Holocaust Memorial Center to describe the Holocaust? That's a problem? I mean, it looks like this conversation started a day ago so it's probably not worth continuing but it just seems completely out of left field.
June 1, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I read that article twice and I have no idea what his point even is. The fact that the article deferred to the Holocaust Memorial Center to describe the Holocaust? That's a problem? I mean, it looks like this conversation started a day ago so it's probably not worth continuing but it just seems completely out of left field. Yeah, it's a bizarre nitpick. I tried to dig at his exact issue with it but didn't really get a whole bunch other than "They are acting like the Holocaust is up for debate"
June 2, 20214 yr Nancy Mace claiming "antifa" anarchists vandalized her home... Some seem, skeptical.
June 2, 20214 yr I’m not saying Nancy did or didn’t stage this herself, but I’m not buying Bess’ attempts at handwriting analysis. The graffiti dots on the i’s don’t look like upside down u’s to me, especially the first one she conveniently didn’t circle. And the connector coming off the graffiti a is clearly separating from the top of the letter, and the handwriting sample, it’s clearly separating towards the middle/bottom.
June 2, 20214 yr 56 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Nancy Mace claiming "antifa" anarchists vandalized her home... Some seem, skeptical. Amazing that Antifa can't do their own logo the same 3 times
June 2, 20214 yr https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/capitol-hill-rioters-claim-to-be-brainwashed-donald-trump-fox/100177896 Quote Capitol Hill rioter 'QAnon Shaman' to argue he was brainwashed by online cult, as lawyer plans 'dope' defence Falsehoods about the election helped bring insurrectionists to the Capitol in January, and now some who are facing criminal charges for their actions during the riot hope their gullibility might save them, or at least engender some sympathy. Lawyers for at least three defendants charged in connection with the violent siege said they would blame election misinformation and conspiracy theories, much of it pushed by then-president Donald Trump, for misleading their clients. The lawyers say those who spread that misinformation bore as much responsibility for the violence as did those who participated in the actual breach of the Capitol. "I think they did a great job of convincing people," defendant Anthony Antonio said, speaking of Mr Trump. "I kind of sound like an idiot now saying it, but my faith was in him." Mr Antonio said he wasn't interested in politics before pandemic boredom led him to conservative cable news and right-wing social media. After Joe Biden's victory in last year's presidential election, Mr Trump and his allies repeatedly claimed that the race was stolen, even though the claims have been repeatedly debunked by officials from both parties, outside experts and courts in several states, and Mr Trump's own attorney-general. In many cases, the baseless claims about vote dumps, ballot fraud and corrupt election officials were amplified on social media, building Mr Trump's campaign to undermine faith in the election that began long before November. The defendants represent only a fraction of the more than 400 people charged in the failed attempt to disrupt the certification of Mr Biden's victory. But their arguments highlight the important role that the falsehoods played in inspiring the riot, especially as many top Republicans try to minimise the violence of January 6 and millions of others still wrongly believe the election was stolen. The misinformation defence At least one of those charged plans to make misinformation a key part of his defence. Albert Watkins, the St Louis lawyer representing Jacob Chansley, the so-called QAnon Shaman, likened the process to brainwashing or falling into the clutches of a cult. Repeated exposure to falsehood and incendiary rhetoric, Mr Watkins said, ultimately overwhelmed his client's ability to discern reality. "It's not an argument I've seen win," said Christopher Slobogin, director of Vanderbilt Law School’s criminal justice program. Mr Slobogin said that unless belief in a conspiracy theory is used as evidence of a larger, diagnosable mental illness — say, paranoia — it's unlikely to overcome the law's presumption of competence. "I'm not blaming defence attorneys for bringing this up," he said. "But just because you have a fixed, false belief that the election was stolen doesn't mean you can storm the Capitol." Joseph Hurley, lawyer for Anthony Antonio, said he would not use his client's belief in false claims of election fraud in an attempt to exonerate him. Instead, Mr Hurley will use them to argue that Mr Antonio was an impressionable person who got exploited by Mr Trump and his allies. "You can catch this disease," Mr Hurley said. Misinformation, he said, "is not a defence. It's not. But it will be brought up to say: This is why he was here. The reason he was there is because he was a dope and believed what he heard on Fox News." The last line though.
June 2, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, NOTW said: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/capitol-hill-rioters-claim-to-be-brainwashed-donald-trump-fox/100177896 The last line though. Cultists.
June 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said: I’m not saying Nancy did or didn’t stage this herself, but I’m not buying Bess’ attempts at handwriting analysis. The graffiti dots on the i’s don’t look like upside down u’s to me, especially the first one she conveniently didn’t circle. And the connector coming off the graffiti a is clearly separating from the top of the letter, and the handwriting sample, it’s clearly separating towards the middle/bottom. yeah signature analysis on graffiti is over the top. but there's so much that makes no sense lol. it's almost certainly staged.
June 2, 20214 yr The FEC is a total disgrace. FEC spares Trump but fines tabloid publisher for hush-money payment to ex-Playboy model who claimed affair with him
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