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Obamacare Wins For The 3rd Time At The Supreme Court 

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act for the third time on Thursday, leaving in place the broad provisions of the law enacted by Congress in 201o. The vote was 7 to 2.

The opinion was authored by Justice Stephen Breyer who was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch dissented.

The decision threw out the challenge to the law on grounds that Texas and other objecting GOP-dominated states were not required to pay anything under the mandate provision and thus had no standing to bring the challenge to court.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/988837265/obamacare-wins-for-the-3rd-time-at-the-supreme-court

19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Ever notice how TEW always attacks those who accuse anyone else of racism? Always. Never attacks the racist, though. Can't be caught sniping at his own team.

To TEW's credit he did come rushing to the defense of Stephen Miller in the immigration thread, elevating Miller to almost "full white guy status" despite his Jewish ancestry. For TEW that's pretty damn progressive. 

This statement from Rep. Rosendale (R-MT) on his vote against Juneteenth holiday is a doozy:

What Americans would be made to feel bad about emancipation of slaves? Oh.
The defeat of slavery certainly belongs in the list of good America brought to the world.
I imagine in 20 years we will still be celebrating the Juneteenth holiday, and mocking the moral panic that was "critical race theory".

^ Tell me you're a racist without saying you're a racist.

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

You think the paraphrasing of a bigot's flippant remark about how an immigrant may just not understand because of a supposed language barrier (especially when the immigrant in question has a strong command of the English language and is, literally, a WRITER who publishes in the English language) is the issue, dude?

The issue I addressed was the factual reality of him being an immigrant.

25 minutes ago, TEW said:

The issue I addressed was the factual reality of him being an immigrant.

Which only mattered in the context of a bigot talking down to an "immigrant" who can't understand what the bigot is saying "because of the language barrier" ... 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Which only mattered in the context of a bigot talking down to an "immigrant" who can't understand what the bigot is saying "because of the language barrier" ... 

Dear God. This is somehoe worse than when he said Rogan was being silenced by spotify.

TEW, Kz, zuke, lynched, etc. I'm not saying all morons are trumpbots, I'm just saying all trumpbots are morons. 

4 hours ago, toolg said:

This statement from Rep. Rosendale (R-MT) on his vote against Juneteenth holiday is a doozy:

What Americans would be made to feel bad about emancipation of slaves? Oh.
The defeat of slavery certainly belongs in the list of good America brought to the world.
I imagine in 20 years we will still be celebrating the Juneteenth holiday, and mocking the moral panic that was "critical race theory".

I actually agree with him that it is primarily a Texan holiday.  Juneteenth only celebrates slaves being freed in Texas.

2 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

I actually agree with him that it is primarily a Texan holiday.  Juneteenth only celebrates slaves being freed in Texas.

Can't put that toothpaste back in the tube now. Juneteenth has even taken on cultural significance beyond the historical event.

Juneteenth celebrates the official end of slavery in America, no? Just because there was a law before this date, does that matter if people were still held in bandage? 

14 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Juneteenth celebrates the official end of slavery in America, no? Just because there was a law before this date, does that matter if people were still held in bandage? 

It does now.

9 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

It does now.

Yeah that's my point lol. This is a solid day to pick as a holiday and a pinnacle day for our country IMO.

23 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Can't put that toothpaste back in the tube now. Juneteenth has even taken on cultural significance beyond the historical event.

I agree.  It’s been gaining steam for awhile.  It’s good to have conversations about the Civil War and the legacy of slavery though.

Memorial Day is a holiday that originated to honor the fallen in the Civil War.  But there’s been a lot of wars since which have made it less of a Civil War holiday.  (Veterans Day is on Armistice day and will always be a WWI holiday)

 

20 hours ago, NOTW said:

^ Tell me you're a racist without saying you're a racist.

i cant get by how he says this makes me feel bad and think my country is evil. our country had and still has some warts and ignoring them is not the answer. 

6 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

 

i cant get by how he says this makes me feel bad and think my country is evil. our country had and still has some warts and ignoring them is not the answer. 

You can usually learn more about a country by examining its failures, as opposed to successes.

How you handle failure is VERY telling of character. Pretending the past didn't happen, ignoring the bad parts is a HUGE mistake.

I love history.

21 hours ago, toolg said:

This statement from Rep. Rosendale (R-MT) on his vote against Juneteenth holiday is a doozy:

What Americans would be made to feel bad about emancipation of slaves? Oh.
The defeat of slavery certainly belongs in the list of good America brought to the world.
I imagine in 20 years we will still be celebrating the Juneteenth holiday, and mocking the moral panic that was "critical race theory".

Always find it interesting how more and more Republicans like Rosendale use language like this:

"They do not want to highlight all the good this country has brought to the world -- flight, our Constitution, the defeat of communism and Nazism, the internet -- but instead our racial sins."

As if adding a long deserved Federal holiday for a very important and significant moment in US history IN ANY WAY represses or dismisses the significance of any one of those other things. 

23 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

You can usually learn more about a country by examining its failures, as opposed to successes.

How you handle failure is VERY telling of character. Pretending the past didn't happen, ignoring the bad parts is a HUGE mistake.

I love history.

yep pretty much the same in everything. acknowledge the mistake(s), learn from it, grow as a country. 

 

I'm 100% good with a national holiday celebrating the end of slavery in the US. The date picked, June 19th is an unusual date since the most proper date should be December 6th, the date the 13th Amendment was ratified in the US. Now, I also understand that half the country is likely snow bound in December so, a Summer time day is better for a national celebration. I suspect that this was probably the reason for settling on Juneteenth, a Texas state holiday already established for that purpose. All we have to do now, is decide what to have at the picnic.

5 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

I'm 100% good with a national holiday celebrating the end of slavery in the US. The date picked, June 19th is an unusual date since the most proper date should be December 6th, the date the 13th Amendment was ratified in the US. Now, I also understand that half the country is likely snow bound in December so, a Summer time day is better for a national celebration. I suspect that this was probably the reason for settling on Juneteenth, a Texas state holiday already established for that purpose. All we have to do now, is decide what to have at the picnic.

i have two racks of ribs in the smoker. 

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

i have two racks of ribs in the smoker. 

Way out in front of the issue again. Well done, sir.

Just now, PoconoDon said:

Way out in front of the issue again. Well done, sir.

i cook mine very, very slow. 

33 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i have two racks of ribs in the smoker. 

I actually am cooking a few racks of ribs tomorrow lol.

I hadn't planned the menu for Sunday, going to the butcher this afternoon. Ribs sounds really, really, really, really good.

5 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I actually am cooking a few racks of ribs tomorrow lol.

nice. 

The Chronic Liar in Chief finally admits defeat?  Was really an admission? 

At Long Last, Donald Trump Finally Admits: 'We Didn't Win'

 

Mary Papenfuss

Thu, June 17, 2021, 8:46 PM

 

 

Amid a rambling, off-the-rails phone interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, former President Donald Trump finally admitted a critical fact: "We didn’t win.”

It was the first time since the presidential election more than seven months ago that Trump has conceded to his successor, President Joe Biden. But he also ominously warned: "Let’s see what happens on that.”

Trump told Hannity Wednesday night: "Shockingly, we were supposed to win easily at 64 million votes, and we got 75 million votes, and we didn’t win. But let’s see what happens on that.”