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The miscellaneous conservatives/Trumpbots/racists inciting violence/BS thread

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3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Huh?

What exactly are you expecting to see? An ahole who was actually wearing his mask and then decided to take it off for the video?

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Just now, Paul852 said:

What exactly are you expecting to see? An ahole who was actually wearing his mask and then decided to take it off for the video?

What did the elderly woman do to trick that man into being a complete POS? 

4 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

What exactly are you expecting to see? An ahole who was actually wearing his mask and then decided to take it off for the video?

Maybe some evidence of the identity of the person he's screaming at, so Kz can pull his arrest record?

Is there a chance that what is captured on the 17 second video wasn't his initial response to being asked to put a mask on and that the person following him and filming him did more to incite that reaction than saying, "could you put a mask on?"

IDK, celebrating the fact that this dude lost his job and livelihood just seems a bit sinister to me. What if he has children?

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

What did the elderly woman do to trick that man into being a complete POS? 

Well, I don't think that's a normal reaction to being asked to put on a mask... and I don't think that person would begin filming right away if their first encounter happened just before the 20 second video started. I'm guessing she asked him to put on a mask, he said no, then the filming/following started.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Is there a chance that what is captured on the 17 second video wasn't his initial response to being asked to put a mask on and that the person following him and filming him did more to incite that reaction than saying, "could you put a mask on?"

IDK, celebrating the fact that this dude lost his job and livelihood just seems a bit sinister to me. What if he has children?

1. It was an elderly lady.

2. If they're lucky they'll have a front row seat to the real life consequences of being total loser in public. It may be the most important thing they ever witness.

idk if the guy should've lost his job for it....but he's a grade A d-bag. 

5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

1. It was an elderly lady.

2. If they're lucky they'll have a front row seat to the real life consequences of being total loser in public. It may be the most important thing they ever witness.

Well there's the issue right there.  She was probably Antifa.

Just now, mayanh8 said:

1. It was an elderly lady.

2. If they're lucky they'll have a front row seat to the real life consequences of being total loser in public. It may be the most important thing they ever get to experience.

OK, elderly women can still harass people, right? What do you think preceded the video? Who pulls out a cellphone and starts recording people unless they are trying to illicit a reaction for internet likes? I'd be shocked if the lady didn't do anything but ask him to put a mask on and that was his initial reaction.

I just think we've set up a very dangerous new world here. This, the dog lady, other Karens, etc. This dude's life is ruined over a 17 second viral clip. It was most likely preceded by him being followed/recorded and shamed for not wearing a mask until he lashed out. I don't think it's something to celebrate that he lost his job because someone posted the video and "Twitter did its thing" until they doxxed him and contacted his employer. It's downright sick in the middle of a pandemic when work is hard to come by especially if he is the breadwinner of a household with children.

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

idk if the guy should've lost his job for it....but he's a grade A d-bag. 

Glad I didn’t get fired when that vid of me slapping my dong on your head surfaced. :wub:

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

OK, elderly women can still harass people, right? What do you think preceded the video? Who pulls out a cellphone and starts recording people unless they are trying to illicit a reaction for internet likes? I'd be shocked if the lady didn't do anything but ask him to put a mask on and that was his initial reaction.

I just think we've set up a very dangerous new world here. This, the dog lady, other Karens, etc. This dude's life is ruined over a 17 second viral clip. It was most likely preceded by him being followed/recorded and shamed for not wearing a mask until he lashed out. I don't think it's something to celebrate that he lost his job because someone posted the video and "Twitter did its thing" until they doxxed him and contacted his employer. It's downright sick in the middle of a pandemic when work is hard to come by especially if he is the breadwinner of a household with children.

If he wants the "freedom" to not wear a mask, he can live with the consequences.  In most of these Karen cases, you're right, ruining someone's life over something like flipping someone off or calling the cops is stupid and unjustified.  But the Never Mask people are directly putting other lives at risk, so social justice is certainly in order.

10 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Well, I don't think that's a normal reaction to being asked to put on a mask... and I don't think that person would begin filming right away if their first encounter happened just before the 20 second video started. I'm guessing she asked him to put on a mask, he said no, then the filming/following started.

Yes it is. Is this the first "I will not put my mask on!" rage video you've seen?

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

OK, elderly women can still harass people, right? What do you think preceded the video? Who pulls out a cellphone and starts recording people unless they are trying to illicit a reaction for internet likes? I'd be shocked if the lady didn't do anything but ask him to put a mask on and that was his initial reaction.

I just think we've set up a very dangerous new world here. This, the dog lady, other Karens, etc. This dude's life is ruined over a 17 second viral clip. It was most likely preceded by him being followed/recorded and shamed for not wearing a mask until he lashed out. I don't think it's something to celebrate that he lost his job because someone posted the video and "Twitter did its thing" until they doxxed him and contacted his employer. It's downright sick in the middle of a pandemic when work is hard to come by especially if he is the breadwinner of a household with children.

Good. An elderly woman (you know the people most at risk) asked him to put a mask on. He's clearly a massive POS for not wearing it in the first place.

5 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Glad I didn’t get fired when that vid of me slapping my dong on your head surfaced. :wub:

you should've gotten a promotion for that one!  

Just now, VanHammersly said:

If he wants the "freedom" to not wear a mask, he can live with the consequences.  In most of these Karen cases, you're right, ruining someone's life over something like flipping someone off or calling the cops is stupid and unjustified.  But the Never Mask people are directly putting other lives at risk, so social justice is certainly in order.

Meh, I always wear a mask, but following someone and shaming them is inappropriate. I mean, just last week, I went into a Publix without one. Had a mask sitting on my front seat and every intention of putting it on, but about halfway through the trip inside, I realized I didn't have it on. I don't think that warrants someone following me around the store and filming me. 

I don't agree with people who don't wear masks, but I don't think it's appropriate to follow and film them. If you must, request that they put a mask on, if they decline, get a store manager or keep your distance and go on with your day. It's not that difficult.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Meh, I always wear a mask, but following someone and shaming them is inappropriate. I mean, just last week, I went into a Publix without one. Had a mask sitting on my front seat and every intention of putting it on, but about halfway through the trip inside, I realized I didn't have it on. I don't think that warrants someone following me around the store and filming me. 

I don't agree with people who don't wear masks, but I don't think it's appropriate to follow and film them. If you must, request that they put a mask on, if they decline, get a store manager or keep your distance and go on with your day. It's not that difficult.

Putting others in danger because you're a right-wing media pawn is a lot more inappropriate.  And this guy flew off the handle.  If he had just been walking through the store without a mask on, was asked about it and then left, none of this would have happened.  Again, if he wants the freedom to not wear a mask then he can deal with the consequences of exercising that freedom.

4 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Yes it is. Is this the first "I will not put my mask on!" rage video you've seen?

No, it's really not. Some of them are legit, like the people raging at store employees that we've seen. Those people are awful. 

Ones like this are a little different, though. Random citizens following non-mask people around filming them while they shop until they blow up... that's way too far for me. 

Just now, Kz! said:

No, it's really not. Some of them are legit, like the people raging at store employees that we've seen. Those people are awful. 

Ones like this are a little different, though. Random citizens following non-mask people around filming them while they shop until they blow up... that's way too far for me. 

No, he was asked to wear a make and started telling the woman off. That's what led to the recording.

And yes, anybody not wearing a mask where they are required to wear a mask should be shamed. Good thing is he was escorted out and the Costco employees made sure the elderly woman and recorder were safe from this POS.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

Putting others in danger because you're a right-wing media pawn is a lot more inappropriate.  And this guy flew off the handle.  If he had just been walking through the store without a mask on, was asked about it and then left, none of this would have happened.  Again, if he wants the freedom to not wear a mask then he can deal with the consequences of exercising that freedom.

No, I simply don't agree that people should be stalked, harassed, and filmed while shopping for not wearing masks. This is just one of those agree to disagree arguments, I guess. 

5 minutes ago, Kz! said:

No, I simply don't agree that people should be stalked, harassed, and filmed while shopping for not wearing masks. This is just one of those agree to disagree arguments, I guess. 

You have no idea if he was stalked and harassed.

9 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Meh, I always wear a mask, but following someone and shaming them is inappropriate. I mean, just last week, I went into a Publix without one. Had a mask sitting on my front seat and every intention of putting it on, but about halfway through the trip inside, I realized I didn't have it on. I don't think that warrants someone following me around the store and filming me. 

I don't agree with people who don't wear masks, but I don't think it's appropriate to follow and film them. If you must, request that they put a mask on, if they decline, get a store manager or keep your distance and go on with your day. It's not that difficult.

 

you are 100% speculating that this happened in the costco ken video. you have no idea. 

Just now, Paul852 said:

No, he was asked to wear a make and started telling the woman off. That's what led to the recording.

And yes, anybody not wearing a mask where they are required to wear a mask should be shamed. Good thing is he was escorted out and the Costco employees made sure the elderly woman and recorder were safe from this POS.

I mean, that's certainly one side of the story. Maybe she did just politely ask, and started recording and that was his reaction to a polite, friendly request. I think that encounter was likely preceded by more than one simple request. Again, I'll have to agree to disagree that non mask wearers should be harassed and recorded while shopping, and, again, I'm a big proponent of wearing masks.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

You have no idea if he was stalked and harassed.

 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

 

you are 100% speculating that this happened in the costco ken video. you have no idea. 

That's why he needs the rest of the video!!!!

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You have no idea if he was stalked and harassed.

Right, just like we really don't know what preceded the video.

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

 

you are 100% speculating that this happened in the costco ken video. you have no idea. 

Yes.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Right, just like we really don't know what preceded the video.

Well then why do you keep saying he was stalked and harassed?

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