31 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I just shrug my shoulders and move on. The justifications are getting a little absurd. These people are pretty much abandoning all morality at this point.

Trump is still playing 4D chess and that’s why he turned the country into a hellscape in an election year.

On 9/4/2020 at 12:32 PM, JohnSnowsHair said:

weird, so does Tim Burton's Batman (1989) ... 

Not weird at all.  You just picked a random movie that had absolutely nothing to do with the interesting factoid that was given to us.  

They are a family of psychopaths.

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

They are a family of psychopaths.

Sometimes when you put sentences together you can make something look like something it's not.  You seem to fall for this often.  Here is the passage from the book....which I obtained from your link.  These quotes aren't even in the same paragraph 

 

"Meanwhile, it also took two months for me to realize the enormity of what my father had accomplished, and the weight of the job that he’d won. It was the day before the inauguration, and we were driving into Arlington National Cemetery, where he was to lay a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I rarely get emotional, if ever. I guess you’d call me hyper-rational, stoic. Yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of the importance of the presidency and a love of our country. I was never prouder of my father than when I watched as he stood before the tomb, his hand over his heart, while the Army bugler played 'Taps.' 

"In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed—voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were 'profiting off the office.'"

While my left brain is struggling to find the right word ("Even unedited its still (Self important, tasteless, uncouth, classless)")  ...   

 

.... I am shocked that someone with "Never Trump" in their twitter description would manipulate a Trump quote.

 

 

Edit: Tasteless.  The entire quote was tasteless. 

Donald Trump Jr is proof that an expensive private school education doesn’t guarantee anything.

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

Sometimes when you put sentences together you can make something look like something it's not.  You seem to fall for this often.  Here is the passage from the book....which I obtained from your link.  These quotes aren't even in the same paragraph 

 

"Meanwhile, it also took two months for me to realize the enormity of what my father had accomplished, and the weight of the job that he’d won. It was the day before the inauguration, and we were driving into Arlington National Cemetery, where he was to lay a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I rarely get emotional, if ever. I guess you’d call me hyper-rational, stoic. Yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of the importance of the presidency and a love of our country. I was never prouder of my father than when I watched as he stood before the tomb, his hand over his heart, while the Army bugler played 'Taps.' 

"In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed—voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were 'profiting off the office.'"

Yeah, that makes it MUCH less pathetic  You are defending one of the most disgusting self-absorbed families in history.

11 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Yeah, that makes it MUCH less pathetic  You are defending one of the most disgusting self-absorbed families in history.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just reading the actual quote.  Thank you though for once again asserting your unbiased and fact driven opinion.  

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

Sometimes when you put sentences together you can make something look like something it's not.  You seem to fall for this often.  Here is the passage from the book....which I obtained from your link.  These quotes aren't even in the same paragraph 

 

"Meanwhile, it also took two months for me to realize the enormity of what my father had accomplished, and the weight of the job that he’d won. It was the day before the inauguration, and we were driving into Arlington National Cemetery, where he was to lay a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I rarely get emotional, if ever. I guess you’d call me hyper-rational, stoic. Yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of the importance of the presidency and a love of our country. I was never prouder of my father than when I watched as he stood before the tomb, his hand over his heart, while the Army bugler played 'Taps.' 

"In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed—voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were 'profiting off the office.'"

Huh?

He drove past the grave markers in Arlington and immediately thought of the financial sacrifices of himself and his family. Whether that was described in one paragraph or two is... irrelevant? The point of the excerpt is sane people don't drive by Arlington Cemetery and think of themselves and their family business sacrifices.

Just now, mayanh8 said:

Huh?

He drove past the grave markers in Arlington and immediately thought of the financial sacrifices of himself and his family. Whether that was described in one paragraph or two is... irrelevant? The point of the excerpt is sane people don't drive by Arlington Cemetery and think of themselves and their family business sacrifices.

He was commenting about the importance of the presidency and what their family would be giving up in order to take these roles on.  The Trump family says plenty of detestable things that you can post in here, this is not one of them. 

2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

He was commenting about the importance of the presidency and what their family would be giving up in order to take these roles on.  The Trump family says plenty of detestable things that you can post in here, this is not one of them. 

Yes it is. You're just more forgiving is all.

5 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

The Trump family says plenty of detestable things that you can post in here, this is not one of them. 

You have the right to your opinion. And maybe it's normal for you to go to honor fallen soldiers and be thinking of your own family fortune and bank account. I certainly think that's likely.

But I feel like I'm standing on pretty solid ground when I make the assumption that most people don't.

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

You have the right to your opinion. And maybe it's normal for you to go to honor fallen soldiers and be thinking of your own family fortune and bank account. I certainly think that's likely.

But I feel like I'm standing on pretty solid ground when I make the assumption that most people don't.

I used to feel that way. All the Trump flags I see these days has me thinking otherwise

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

You have the right to your opinion. And maybe it's normal for you to go to honor fallen soldiers and be thinking of your own family fortune and bank account. I certainly think that's likely.

But I feel like I'm standing on pretty solid ground when I make the assumption that most people don't.

I think the point that he was trying to make was that the family was making major sacrifices and subjecting themselves to enormous public scrutiny.  Those sacrifices were made out of a love of country and patriotism.  

A bit different than the ever running narrative in here about how the Trump family is profiting from the office of the presidency.  

13 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

I think the point that he was trying to make was that the family was making major sacrifices and subjecting themselves to enormous public scrutiny.  Those sacrifices were made out of a love of country and patriotism.  

A bit different than the ever running narrative in here about how the Trump family is profiting from the office of the presidency.  

I understand the point he was making. I really do. You don't need to keep trying to explain it.

The point everyone else is making is that most people don't make an Arlington Cemetery visit about themselves and their bank accounts. Like, I get that people think about personal finances. I do it all the time. What I'm saying is that most people aren't reminded of their bank accounts when they visit the graves of dead soldiers. For sane people I believe there's a singular focus around those that died and the ultimate sacrifice they made. At least there is for me. Again, I totally appreciate the fact that that is probably not the case for you.

57 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

I understand the point he was making. I really do. You don't need to keep trying to explain it.

The point everyone else is making is that most people don't make an Arlington Cemetery visit about themselves and their bank accounts. Like, I get that people think about personal finances. I do it all the time. What I'm saying is that most people aren't reminded of their bank accounts when they visit the graves of dead soldiers. For sane people I believe there's a singular focus around those that died and the ultimate sacrifice they made. At least there is for me. Again, I totally appreciate the fact that that is probably not the case for you.

And my point is that you are projecting all of that due to your utter hatred for anything Trump

19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

So a guy with the screen name "I alone” thinks about himself?  You don’t say.

*my apologies if The Norseman isn’t actually Ialone

apology accepted

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

I used to feel that way. All the Trump flags I see these days has me thinking otherwise

ooooooh, wait.  So now Trump stickers and flags have some meaning in terms of his support?  Welcome back to the observation I made last month.

Just now, The Norseman said:

ooooooh, wait.  So now Trump stickers and flags have some meaning in terms of his support?  Welcome back to the observation I made last month.

Oh yeah, definitely. It's a cult.

3 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Oh yeah, definitely. It's a cult.

Naah, its just a bunch of hardworking American's who are tired of lifelong, do nothing politicians screwing them over than taking their money for foolish and poorly run government programs.  Keep assuming we're all an uneducated cult though...that worked out really well for Hillary. 

4 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Naah, its just a bunch of hardworking American's who are tired of lifelong, do nothing politicians screwing them over than taking their money for foolish and poorly run government programs.  Keep assuming we're all an uneducated cult though...that worked out really well for Hillary. 

Just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean you aren't an uneducated cult 

3 hours ago, The Norseman said:

Naah, its just a bunch of hardworking American's who think fallen soldiers are losers and suckers and are tired of lifelong, do nothing politicians screwing them over than taking their money for foolish and poorly run government programs.  Keep assuming we're all an uneducated cult though...that worked out really well for Hillary. 

FYP

47 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

FYP

Except that the only on the record accounts of this say it never happened.  Until someone is willing to on the record and say they heard it, this is just another drummed up attempt at character assassination. 

Trump surrounds himself with criminals. True today as it was when he was elected. 

2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Except that the only on the record accounts of this say it never happened.  Until someone is willing to on the record and say they heard it, this is just another drummed up attempt at character assassination. 

  Sure thing dude.

It was John Kelly. Everyone knows it, even Trump, who’s preemptively trashed him and of course called Kelly, a decorated vet himself, a loser and a sucker. How many times does this POS have to make fools of his supporters before you guys stop desperately spinning for him?