October 9, 20205 yr Just now, mayanh8 said: You just spent the last thee months in here trying to convince everyone the rioting was being done by angry blacks. lmao I've posted countless videos of Antifa in the Floyd thread. Literally 20 minutes ago I posted Antifa mugshots in the thread. Dozens of pictures of Antifa and almost all of them are white. This post is so easily refutable I just can't anymore...
October 9, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, Kz! said: So once again I'll respond: But sure, run with the extreme literal interpretation of the "burning cities" line. I'll just continue lmao'ing Gotta love the Trumpbot playbook. State some thing as fact, get called out immediately that it’s not a fact, respond with well obviously it’s an exaggeration but it’s the only way I can make an argument
October 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dude, you believe the ish Tucker says. "Did you use the word fact? Don’t ever use the word fact with me. Don’t ever use that word." You don't like actual facts, so you listen to idiots like Tucker and Hannity whose entire job is to habitually lie. Antifa is an idea. It's not an organization. That is the point. Even the Wall Street Journal agrees with that sentiment. It doesn't mean the idea is toothless, but there is a difference between - for example - an organized militia that planned to kidnap an elected governor and foment a civil war, and a bunch of white suburban losers who never got over their teenage angst. Kamala encouraged people to donate to a fund that would bail out protesters. She actually used the word protesters in the tweet. Again, I know facts cause you some massive cognitive dissonance, I really do feel for you. maybe you need an advil? John, you just went full Riot Kitchen again and you don't even realize it. Never go full Riot Kitchen.
October 9, 20205 yr 42 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm pretty sure the point he's making isn't that the left has its idiots. It's that the left disavows them, while Trump winks and nods at them. That's a pretty stark difference. I get that there are still plenty on the left who have not been loud in denouncing violent acts or "groups" like Antifa (though it's certainly worth noting that the idea of an "organized anarchy group" is kind of funny, and while I don't doubt many Antifans are left of center I think their main goal is anarchy and revolution, not to support democratic candidates ) ... but the most important person on the left, Biden, has routinely, firmly, and consistently denounced these groups and the violence they commit. Meanwhile Trump can't even directly denounce white nationalism when he's given a softball question during a debate. "Antifa is an idea" Surely I would have though you would have used that superior art of self-reflection that the left posses.
October 9, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: lmao I've posted countless videos of Antifa in the Floyd thread. Literally 20 minutes ago I posted Antifa mugshots in the thread. Dozens of pictures of Antifa and almost all of them are white. This post is so easily refutable I just can't anymore... We've all been witness to the racist mess you've been posting in the that thread over the last three months. A last second re-write of the script isn't going to change anyone's opinion. 2 minutes ago, paco said: "Antifa is an idea" Says who? Joe Biden? Great. I guess I'll just stand back and stand by.
October 9, 20205 yr Just now, downundermike said: Got a love the Trumpbot playbook. State some thing as fact, get called out immediately that it’s not a fact, respond with well obviously it’s an exaggeration but it’s the only way I can make an argument Gotta love liberal dems, intentionally miss the point of an easy-to-understand tweet and then whine about it. You're boring today.
October 9, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: lmao I've posted countless videos of Antifa in the Floyd thread. Literally 20 minutes ago I posted Antifa mugshots in the thread. Dozens of pictures of Antifa and almost all of them are white. This post is so easily refutable I just can't anymore... You can stand back now, Proud Boy. Wouldn't want to see you end up on the news. Standby for further orders.
October 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, mayanh8 said: We've all been witness to the racist mess you've been posting in the that thread over the last three months. A last second re-write of the script isn't going to change anyone's opinion. Says who? Joe Biden? Great. I guess I'll just stand back and stand by. Nope, been posting videos from Portland from day 1 pretty much. You're verifiably wrong on this one. womp womp.
October 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Says who? Joe Biden? Great. I guess I'll just stand back and stand by. yup. The Dems nominee for president. This dismissiveness (word?) of them gives them power. And yes, what Trump said was awful. It was a moment that should have been a layup and instead he word vomited all over the place.
October 9, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, paco said: "Antifa is an idea" Again, for the record, I think it was a dumb unforced error on his part, but he was responding to Trump's argument by saying "Your own FBI director, Christopher Wray, has said Antifa isn't an organization, it's an idea." By quoting Wray, yes it does come across as an endorsement of the characterization, but criticism of Wray is bypassed in favor of owning the libs it seems. 1 minute ago, paco said: yup. The Dems nominee for president. This dismissiveness (word?) of them gives them power. And yes, what Trump said was awful. It was a moment that should have been a layup and instead he word vomited all over the place. You're trying way too hard to both sides this one.
October 9, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Well, I don't know who smokedawg or Dary Rez is. Think either of them have a future in politics? Given the fact that Trump is currently the president.... probably.
October 9, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Gotta love liberal dems, intentionally miss the point of an easy-to-understand tweet and then whine about it. You're boring today. I didn’t think I had to interpret the point, you said exactly this
October 9, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: Please don't think I'm downplaying it. Not my intention. Lock those people up and throw away the key. You are joking right? Or do you think antifa is "just an idea"? Oh I don't think you were. I just think Donald Trump should not have the influence he has. He's dangerous. That was kind of my point.
October 9, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: 1. I don't consider Antifa to be part of the Democrat base, establishment, platform.... whatever you want to call it. They hate normal Democrats like me as much as I hate them. And they sprung up out of nowhere a few years ago. 2. Let's make the outlandish assumption for a second that that Antifa can be labeled part of the "left". They'd make up about .00001% of the Democrat voters in the US. Anyone who is being truly, truly honest with themselves can't say those same things about radicalization and extremism in the GOP. We both know that a non-trivial portion of the GOP base has always been made up of racists, bigots, white supremacists, and anti-government radicals. It used to be that they made up a minority of the party. Since the birth of the Tea Party, which has since been co-opted by Trumpism, the normal GOP voters have steadily made an exodus from the party as Independents. What's left of the Republican party makes up about 28% of the United States electorate. It's my belief that about half of them, 10-15% of the total U.S. population, can be qualified as either a racist, bigot, white supremacist, or anti-government radical. Honestly, what you consider matters little. The fact that prominent people in the democratic party support them OR look the other way is a problem.
October 9, 20205 yr Just now, downundermike said: I didn’t think I had to interpret the point, you said exactly this Yeah, I didn't think anyone was going to go with the smooth-brain literal interpretation of the tweet, but here we are. It's my fault, really, this is CVON after all.
October 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Nope, been posting videos from Portland from day 1 pretty much. You're verifiably wrong on this one. womp womp. It's weird how you gave so many people the exact same impression.
October 9, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dude, you believe the ish Tucker says. "Did you use the word fact? Don’t ever use the word fact with me. Don’t ever use that word." You don't like actual facts, so you listen to idiots like Tucker and Hannity whose entire job is to habitually lie. Antifa is an idea. It's not an organization. That is the point. Even the Wall Street Journal agrees with that sentiment. It doesn't mean the idea is toothless, but there is a difference between - for example - an organized militia that planned to kidnap an elected governor and foment a civil war, and a bunch of white suburban losers who never got over their teenage angst. Kamala encouraged people to donate to a fund that would bail out protesters. She actually used the word protesters in the tweet. Again, I know facts cause you some massive cognitive dissonance, I really do feel for you. maybe you need an advil? Do you honestly believe they just randomly show up to places like some sort of hive mind? Saying they are NOT an organization is
October 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: Honestly, what you consider matters little. The fact that prominent people in the democratic party support them OR look the other way is a problem. Can you give me some examples other than quoting the FBI director?
October 9, 20205 yr Just now, Kz! said: Yeah, I didn't think anyone was going to go with the smooth-brain literal interpretation of the tweet, but here we are. It's my fault, really, this is CVON after all. So just to clarify things for everyone going forward. When you post a tweet and say exactly this, we are supposed to interpret the tweet, and also know that you actually didn’t mean exactly this. Wouldn’t it be easier to just post tweets that reflect what you actually mean, and then follow that up by saying that’s what you actually mean.
October 9, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You're trying way too hard to both sides this one. No one cares what you think.... You can't even ride a roller coaster 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Oh I don't think you were. I just think Donald Trump should not have the influence he has. He's dangerous. That was kind of my point. No arguments here. The man is a terrible president and clearly not a leader.
October 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: yup. The Dems nominee for president. This dismissiveness (word?) of them gives them power. And yes, what Trump said was awful. It was a moment that should have been a layup and instead he word vomited all over the place. Word vomit? Stop it. Just stop. You people have been making excuses for him every time he's given opportunity for a layup on denouncing white supremacy. He didn't denounce it because he didn't want to either because he agrees with it or he knows that denouncing it will cost him a large chunk of votes. He didn't fumble anything. Trump knew exactly what he was doing. And to keep saying otherwise is just a sad copout.
October 9, 20205 yr Just now, mayanh8 said: Word vomit? Stop it. Just stop. You people have been making excuses for him every time he's given opportunity for a layup on denouncing white supremacy. He didn't denounce it because he didn't want to either because he agrees with it or he knows that denouncing it will cost him a large chunk of votes. He didn't fumble anything. Trump knew exactly what he was doing. And to keep saying otherwise is just a sad copout. How the hell was that making an excuse for him?
October 9, 20205 yr Armed plots by right wing d-bags but we have to talk about Antifa. The latest boogie man to frighten little children. We went to WW II to fight fascism. Something you could be proud of.
October 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, downundermike said: So just to clarify things for everyone going forward. When you post a tweet and say exactly this, we are supposed to interpret the tweet, and also know that you actually didn’t mean exactly this. Wouldn’t it be easier to just post tweets that reflect what you actually mean, and then follow that up by saying that’s what you actually mean. I'll write a brief interpretation of the next tweet I post to keep the smooth-brains from getting confused. Deal?
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