December 13, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, Toastrel said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55236260 In Trump’s final days, a rush of federal executions That’s some way out sheete
December 13, 20204 yr 5 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I didn't even know the federal government could conduct executions? McVeigh was executed by the federal government. I believe he was the first after executions were reinstated.
December 14, 20204 yr On 12/11/2020 at 1:50 PM, VanHammersly said: Who said I was kind-hearted and accepting? you just did it again!
December 14, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, toolg said: No Democrates! a broken down shack selling furniture that looks like it was picked out of a garbage dump. pretty much sums up the republican party in one pic.
December 14, 20204 yr 9 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: Don't be a victim, submit to unwanted sexual assault! Gotta love the logic of Trumpbots.
December 14, 20204 yr 11 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: Funniest part of this is that 3 people attending a rally that celebrates the world's whiniest constant victim are telling women not to be victims. "Don't let yourselves be victims of sexual assault, ladies. Be victims of imagined fraud, the media and literally every mean word said about you instead!"
December 14, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: Funniest part of this is that 3 people attending a rally that celebrates the world's whiniest constant victim are telling women not to be victims. "Don't let yourselves be victims of sexual assault, ladies. Be victims of imagined fraud, the media and literally every mean word said about you instead!" Ive always had an attraction to strong, smart, independent women. Those in that video do not fall in any of those categories
December 15, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, toolg said: So stupid, it hurts! This is the mentality we are up against
December 15, 20204 yr On 12/12/2020 at 11:44 AM, Toastrel said: Since 1963 the federal government has conducted 13 executions. Ten of those have been in the last 5 months. Three have been conducted since the November 3rd national election. Should they not have been executed?
December 15, 20204 yr 9 minutes ago, xzmattzx said: Were they sentenced to death? How many innocent people are you okay with killing? It has been shown again and again that people have been cleared of charges. . .after they are dead. Sort of too late. A country that executes innocent people is NOT a country that can take the moral highground.
December 15, 20204 yr I've never understood the point of capital punishment. It's more expensive, not a deterrent and can sometimes end up putting an innocent person to the death. What's the benefit? Just revenge? Because I don't even think it even achieves that particularly well. Personally I'd rather be put to death that rot in a cell my whole life.
December 15, 20204 yr 26 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I've never understood the point of capital punishment. It's more expensive, not a deterrent and can sometimes end up putting an innocent person to the death. What's the benefit? Just revenge? Because I don't even think it even achieves that particularly well. Personally I'd rather be put to death that rot in a cell my whole life. In some cases, I'm in favor of it. Not sure I see the point in saying pieces of ish like Bin Laden should be allowed to live and breathe with the rest of us. I'm a Christian, but for me, some crimes are beyond forgiveness.
December 15, 20204 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: In some cases, I'm in favor of it. Not sure I see the point in saying pieces of ish like Bin Laden should be allowed to live and breathe with the rest of us. I'm a Christian but for me, some crimes are beyond forgiveness. the issue is that to get it right is very expensive. not saying there aren't people who are deserving, but I would want to be 100% confident that someone committed the crime to see them executed for it. getting to 100% is very expensive. more expensive than keeping them locked up in many cases. I would rather see 99 people locked up in perpetuity than 1 executed for a crime s/he didn't actually commit.
December 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: In some cases, I'm in favor of it. Not sure I see the point in saying pieces of ish like Bin Laden should be allowed to live and breathe with the rest of us. I'm a Christian but for me, some crimes are beyond forgiveness. But Biden Laden got a shot to the head and he was done. That's not the worst way to go. It's getting off pretty easy honestly, considering what he did. If I were him, I'd take that all day over sitting alone in a cell for decades.
December 15, 20204 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: the issue is that to get it right is very expensive. not saying there aren't people who are deserving, but I would want to be 100% confident that someone committed the crime to see them executed for it. getting to 100% is very expensive. more expensive than keeping them locked up in many cases. I would rather see 99 people locked up in perpetuity than 1 executed for a crime s/he didn't actually commit. Pragmatically speaking, yeah I get it. But philosophically speaking, F that ass wipe. He deserved every ounce of lead blasted through his skull.
December 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Pragmatically speaking, yeah I get it. But philosophically speaking, F that ass wipe. He deserved every ounce of lead blasted through his skull. sure, I'm not talking about bin Laden. he got better than he deserved, being holed up in a house in Pakistan with porn until some American soldiers come and snuff him out quick and perhaps relatively painlessly. I mean your run of the mill execution from the US criminal justice system.
December 15, 20204 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: But Biden Laden got a shot to the head and he was done. That's not the worst way to go. It's getting off pretty easy honestly, considering what he did. If I were him, I'd take that all day over sitting alone in a cell for decades. I mean, he was basically confided to a house for a decade anyway, but yeah I still feel far better knowing that he's dead rather than sitting in a cell like KSM is. I don't really care about his feelings on what he would consider being the easier of two outcomes. I just wanted him dead because to me that was more fitting with justice than him sitting in a jail cell continuing to live on the same planet as us. His existence simply needed to end. Maybe that makes me a bad person, I don't know.
December 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I mean, he was basically confided to a house for a decade anyway, but yeah I still feel far better knowing that he's dead rather than sitting in a cell like KSM is. I don't really care about his feelings on what he would consider being the easier of two outcomes. I just wanted him dead because to me that was more fitting with justice than him sitting in a jail cell continuing to live on the same planet as us. His existence simply needed to end. Maybe that makes me a bad person, I don't know. I don't think it makes you a bad person, I just feel differently about which I think is worse. Self imposed imprisonment isn't even remotely the same as forced imprisonment. The worst part of prison isn't the seclusion it's the lack of control over the seclusion. Look, I recognize that Bin Laden is a very specific case, because you have to think about what imprisoning him does to his cause around the world. In the end, you're likely delivering a greater blow to his cause by getting him out of the way then by allowing him to live, so I can see the importance of killing him, but he's a completely unique case. For the most part, we're talking about murderers, not leaders of global terror organizations. In their case, I don't think the benefit to killing them outweighs allowing them to live, for a number of reasons.
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