6 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

This is a huge reach. Some of these names are laughable. Let’s give Pickett a chance in this offense before completely writing him off 

I’m not writing him off. I’m using the known information and not projecting "what he could be”. If we had to play a game right now I’m taking all those guys who have more experience and showed more than Pickett. 

19 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

That had never played in an NFL game. Now we have a guy with actual starts under his belt placed in an actual NFL offense with playmakers instead of the crap Pittsburgh was running last year. Everyone is so focused on the 3rd rounder we gave up which was the 98th pick. We got a 4th rounder back that’s pick 120. So basically we gave up a couple spots and gave two 7th rounders. Who cares? That’s cheap enough, why make a big deal of this. It basically didn’t cost anything and brings in a guy to compete 

It cost a day 2 pick

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

It cost a day 2 pick

We had pick 98. We slid back to pick 120. It only cost us 22 spots. 

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mac Jones, Justin Fields, Sam Howell, Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garappolo, Gardner Minshew (if he counts), Carson Wentz, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heineke, Mason Rudolph, Ryan Tannehill (maybe). 

I’m sure I’m missing some 

Agree with most. Not for Rudolph or Dalton. Not sure on Wentz anymore, either. Tyrod Taylor's best days are getting behind him too so that might be a toss up soon. Otherwise, the others are definitely better.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not writing him off. I’m using the known information and not projecting "what he could be”. If we had to play a game right now I’m taking all those guys who have more experience and showed more than Pickett. 

The question was, what backups are better than Pickett. But we don’t know the answer to that. We haven’t seen him in this offense to know if it makes a difference or not. He could come out and look 10x better than he did in Pittsburgh or he could look the same. Time will tell. One of your choices for someone who was "better” was Joe Flacco. Who was awful with us but then looked like a different guy with the Browns. Change of scenery can make a difference.

1 minute ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

We had pick 98. We slid back to pick 120. It only cost us 22 spots. 

Which is roughly the equivalent of a 4th rd pick. Not exactly a premium pick, but probably could've been better spent elsewhere.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

It cost a day 2 pick

That we could easily get back by packaging that 120 and a later pick or 2

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

It cost a day 2 pick

I think with 3 5s, Howie is likely to move up from that new 4th round spot. It might still be a 4th rounder, but itll be an early 4th instead of a very late 3rd round compensatory pick. 

1 minute ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

The question was, what backups are better than Pickett. But we don’t know the answer to that. We haven’t seen him in this offense to know if it makes a difference or not. He could come out and look 10x better than he did in Pittsburgh or he could look the same. Time will tell. 

No the question was clearly "how many backup QBs are better than Pickett right now?”

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Agree with most. Not for Rudolph or Dalton. Not sure on Wentz anymore, either. Tyrod Taylor's best days are getting behind him too so that might be a toss up soon. Otherwise, the others are definitely better.

I think Garappolo might be cooked too. But like I said in another post I think Browning from Cincinnati deserves a spot on the list.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Agree with most. Not for Rudolph or Dalton. Not sure on Wentz anymore, either. Tyrod Taylor's best days are getting behind him too so that might be a toss up soon. Otherwise, the others are definitely better.

I’m not a fan of Rudolph but he played way better last year than Pickett in the same offense. For that he gets the nod. 

Rudolph was 3-0, 75% completion and 3 TDS to 0 INT’s. Pickett was 7-5, 62% and 6 TDS to 4 INT’s. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No the question was clearly "how many backup QBs are better than Pickett right now?”

Well you got it wrong. None of them are playing right now. Its the offseason. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No the question was clearly "how many backup QBs are better than Pickett right now?”

We don’t know the answer right now because we haven’t seen Pickett play. I’d take my chances with him than most of those washed up guys you mentioned. Mason Rudolph is just hilarious

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Which is roughly the equivalent of a 4th rd pick. Not exactly a premium pick, but probably could've been better spent elsewhere.

Ehhhh, how many of our 4th round picks have panned out?

3 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

We don’t know the answer right now because we haven’t seen Pickett play. I’d take my chances with him than most of those washed up guys you mentioned. Mason Rudolph is just hilarious

So why did Mason Rudolph play better than Pickett last year on the same team?

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not a fan of Rudolph but he played way better last year than Pickett in the same offense. For that he gets the nod. 

Rudolph was 3-0, 75% completion and 3 TDS to 0 INT’s. Pickett was 7-5, 62% and 6 TDS to 4 INT’s. 

Against the Bengals who gave up, the Seahawks, and the Ravens who rested their starters.

PFF draft guys did a post-free agency mock and had the eagles trade from 22 up to 12 for Quinyon Mitchell. The cost of moving up is 420 points on the value chart, and pick 50 is worth 400 spots. So they just gave up 22 and 50 to get to 12.

Pick 50 ended up being Rattler to Denver. Then Ricky Pearsall and Saintistil got taken.

At pick 53 they gave the eagles Polk (one of those dudes loves Polk for some reason).  Their rationale was "You build around Kenny Pickett. You dont want him to refuse to suit up." 

 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not a fan of Rudolph but he played way better last year than Pickett in the same offense. For that he gets the nod. 

Rudolph was 3-0, 75% completion and 3 TDS to 0 INT’s. Pickett was 7-5, 62% and 6 TDS to 4 INT’s. 

He wasn't good in years prior though. Maybe he's improved, tough to say, but sample size needs to be bigger.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

So why did Mason Rudolph play better than Pickett last year on the same team?

Rudolph didn’t play until Canada was fired. The entire team seemed to look better after that 

I don't mind the Pickett trade. Set and forget backup QB for 2 years, either with him or McKee. With Moore, the Eagles OL, and the loaded skill positions, Pickett will have everything he needs to succeed here. For me, he has valid excuses for underperforming. But he's gotta prove himself.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

So why did Mason Rudolph play better than Pickett last year on the same team?

Also, Pickett only played 2 games after Canada and those were only 2 games over 70% completion rating.

4 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

Ehhhh, how many of our 4th round picks have panned out?

God, I hate this logic. Just because we suck at drafting in a particular round doesn't mean we should throw away all those picks every year for failed rentals like we have with Avery, Tate, Byard, etc. Maybe we should just keep the picks and figure out a way to improve our talent evaluation to start getting some decent returns. We've got the best OL coach in the league, let's get him a few prospects we can work with to compete with Steen, Jurgens, and maybe eventually someone they can slide over at RT when Lane's gone.

 

5 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Against the Bengals who gave up, the Seahawks, and the Ravens who rested their starters.

And you realize the Steelers were in playoff contention the whole time but started Rudolph over Pickett when he was healthy, yes? 

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He wasn't good in years prior though. Maybe he's improved, tough to say, but sample size needs to be bigger.

I’m not going to defend Rudolph. So take him off, it’s not a big deal to me. I just think there’s something to the fact he played better and they kept him as the starter with Pickett healthy.