2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And you realize the Steelers were in playoff contention the whole time but started Rudolph over Pickett when he was healthy, yes? 

He has surgery on his right ankle in December.

Eagles have been fairly successful in the 4th round I feel like. Avonte & Sweat immediately come to mind. Driscoll was decent depth for his career. McPhearson & Wallace weren’t much but had some ST value. Ringo looks promising. Mack Hollins made some plays the SB season. 
 

Only one that looks like a clear whiff to me is Shareef Miller

4 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Also, Pickett only played 2 games after Canada and those were only 2 games over 70% completion rating.

A game against the Bengals they scored a massive 16 points and then 10 passes against the Cardinals. 

1 minute ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Eagles have been fairly successful in the 4th round I feel like. Avonte & Sweat immediately come to mind. Driscoll was decent depth for his career. McPhearson & Wallace weren’t much but had some ST value. Ringo looks promising. Mack Hollins made some plays the SB season. 
 

Only one that looks like a clear whiff to me is Shareef Miller

Oh! Pumphrey is another clear whiff. Missed that one

6 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

He has surgery on his right ankle in December.

Yet he was a full practice the entire week leading up to that game with a playoff berth on the line.

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

God, I hate this logic. Just because we suck at drafting in a particular round doesn't mean we should throw away all those picks every year for failed rentals like we have with Avery, Tate, Byard, etc. Maybe we should just keep the picks and figure out a way to improve our talent evaluation to start getting some decent returns. We've got the best OL coach in the league, let's get him a few prospects we can work with to compete with Steen, Jurgens, and maybe eventually someone they can slide over at RT when Lane's gone.

We can stockpile as many 4th round picks as we want. The percentages that 4th rounders pan out is not very high, not just for us, but for everyone in the league. It’s just how it is. If we can slide back 22 spots and have a quality, cost effective, backup QB, so that we can use that cap space for other holes. What’s the issue? More than one way to skin a cat.

3 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Oh! Pumphrey is another clear whiff. Missed that one

To be fair, Pumphrey was a 6th round pick.  Howie just turned the pick in two rounds too early 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yet he was a full practice the entire week leading up to that game 

What game? He had the surgery on the 4th. A day after the Cardinals game. They started Trubisky over Rudolph for the Patriots that Thursday. He wasn’t medically cleared till January.

48 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mac Jones, Justin Fields, Sam Howell, Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garappolo, Gardner Minshew (if he counts), Carson Wentz, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heineke, Mason Rudolph, Ryan Tannehill (maybe). 

I’m sure I’m missing some 

39 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

my opinion
No, maybe, yes, no, no, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no.

I like the trade. I think he is a decent backup for super cheap. He is young. If he starts at any point and does well then we can get value back. It’s not like he is was 6 year starter or zach wilson. 2 years, in an awful offense with an awful OC. 

 

Just now, MillerTime said:

What game? He had the surgery on the 4th. A day after the Cardinals game. They started Trubisky over Rudolph for the Patriots that Thursday. He wasn’t medically cleared till January.

The last game against the Ravens that they needed to win to be alive for a playoff berth. 

50 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mac Jones, Justin Fields, Sam Howell, Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garappolo, Gardner Minshew (if he counts), Carson Wentz, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heineke, Mason Rudolph, Ryan Tannehill (maybe). 

I’m sure I’m missing some 

Hilarious how you gave a list and they try to pick it apart because it goes against what Howie did. Pickett has to be the best answer for backup because Howie got him

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hilarious how you gave a list and they try to pick it apart because it goes against what Howie did. Pickett has to be the best answer for backup because Howie got him

Howie is elite.

The Rams selected Norm Van Brocklin in the 4th round...

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hilarious how you gave a list and they try to pick it apart because it goes against what Howie did. Pickett has to be the best answer for backup because Howie got him

I clearly said Howell and Flacco are better. Pickett is better than the rest especially for less than a million this year. 22 spots in the draft is worth 4-5 million in cap space. That could be the difference in bringing Reddick back.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Hilarious how you gave a list and they try to pick it apart because it goes against what Howie did. Pickett has to be the best answer for backup because Howie got him

It’s a very subjective list, I don’t expect universal agreement. Even I’ll admit there’s a bunch where the argument is who’s better out of bad players. Some also cost more while being slightly better and maybe not worth it overall.  

But I don’t really understand why Pickett is getting the benefit of the doubt about literally everything while everyone else gets excuses or critiqued to death. Maybe he can improve or take some improbable leap but he just lacks anything special that his ceiling IMO is so incredibly low. 

At least we’re in here debating about our QB2 & not needing a new QB1 

 

Bright side people

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

Pickett is better than the rest especially for less than a million this year. 22 spots in the draft is worth 4-5 million in cap space. That could be the difference in bringing Reddick back.

I don’t disagree but that also wasn’t the question. At least my answer wasn’t considering those factors.

 

14 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

We can stockpile as many 4th round picks as we want. The percentages that 4th rounders pan out is not very high, not just for us, but for everyone in the league. It’s just how it is. If we can slide back 22 spots and have a quality, cost effective, backup QB, so that we can use that cap space for other holes. What’s the issue? More than one way to skin a cat.

Cool let's just trade away all our draft picks after round 3 then because they rarely pan out.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t disagree but that also wasn’t the question 

I think he is better than the rest. I said especially for less than a million and the Reddick part as an extra point.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t disagree but that also wasn’t the question. At least my answer wasn’t considering those factors.

 

But this is the point we are trying to make. It’s not that everyone is "defending” Pickett. Is Pickett the best backup option, no. Has he looked amazing given his chances, no. But for the price and what we have up to get him, I think it’s worth taking the risk on him to see if he can look better in our offense as opposed to overpaying for a Mariota type again. Like others have said. That savings could be the difference in getting another player or not.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Cool let's just trade away all our draft picks after round 3 then because they rarely pan out.

We didn’t trade them all. We traded one. It was literally one pick, that moved us back 22 spots and people are acting like we gave up 2 first rounders. I swear, people complain about anything

17 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

We can stockpile as many 4th round picks as we want. The percentages that 4th rounders pan out is not very high, not just for us, but for everyone in the league. It’s just how it is. If we can slide back 22 spots and have a quality, cost effective, backup QB, so that we can use that cap space for other holes. What’s the issue? More than one way to skin a cat.

Yep. They had FOUR 7th round picks in 2025 so giving up two of those was a big fat nothing burger. They moved down from 98 to 120, got a good backup QB, and saved 7-8 million based on the going rate for a backup QB in free agency. With Pickett's reputation as a first round pick and the Eagles ability to rehabilitate young QB's there is also a possibility they could flip him in a year or two for better assets than they gave up. There is nothing not to like about this move other than the dummies out there who think a Mariota is better than Pickett AND would prefer a Mariota and 8 less million in cap space.

2 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

I think he is better than the rest. I said especially for less than a million and the Reddick part as an extra point.

Ok, so why? Why is Pickett better than Mac Jones who has better stats and had Matt Patricia as OC? Why is he better than Winston? Why is he better than Minshew who’s actually competing for a starting job and got paid a nice deal? 

I think there’s reason to believe Pickett has been at his worst in a bad situation and in Philly he can become his best self. Now how good that is is up for debate, but I think he can and will be a high-end backup. 

If anyone watched the video I posted of JT O'Sullivans QB school, it looks like Picketts issues were 1. canada's offense. 2. poor WR play (not recognizing how to sit in a zone, and not getting feet in bounds with plenty of room, bad route running). 3. Footwork on a couple of his missed throws. One had happy feet. Another, very wide base.

 

3 very fixable things.