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30 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

McPhearson is a forgotten player at this point. The Eagles seem to still think he has something to offer. Good thing about his injury is that it was so early he should have no problem diving in day 1 to compete again. 

Yea I think he doesn’t make it past training camp, mainly wanted to point out that he had some value at some points. 

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6 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

So a player one round inferior

Really the trade is Hargrave and two 7th round picks, for Pickett and a 4th.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Vince Young was rookie of the year and former 3rd overall pick and all time great college QB. Stupid stupid comparison. 

Consider the source 

39 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Really the trade is Hargrave and two 7th round picks, for Pickett and a 4th.

Yeah seems like a solid trade to me.  And should create healthy competition with McKee for the backup role.  

3 hours ago, Swoop said:

I'm not saying that Pickett is great, but the outrage seems silly. He's a young, cost controlled backup in a much better situation and with a better coaching staff. Chances are if Hurts went down for the season we would be screwed regardless of who the backup is. At least he's young and still has some room to improve.

Not so sure.  If Hurts went down last year,  the way he was playing we may have been better off. 

42 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Yeah seems like a solid trade to me.  And should create healthy competition with McKee for the backup role.  

I think it's a may the best man win competition.  But I don't really care.  I hope neither ever play a snap in a regular season game for the Eagles.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not so sure.  If Hurts went down last year,  the way he was playing we may have been better off. 

Oddly enough you may be right in terms of the play calling.Typically they change things up for the backups and commit more to the run game. Typically.

FWIW, Colts fans say he’s legit. 

It was discussed last night that Pickett didn’t do well in his two games after Canada was fired. I think there should be a little bit more nuance to it than just looking at the points. Against Cincinnati he did only lead them to 16 points (yep, that’s bad), but he threw for a season-high in yardage (278), yards per anttempt and completion percentage. The Steelers put up over 400 yards of offense, something they never did under Canada.

The following week against Arizona, he got hurt diving toward the end zone, leaving the game with 4th and 1 at the goal line with 5 minutes left in the second quarter. He was 7-10 for 70 yards. The Steelers only TD three points at that time.

I don’t expect that to sway anyone’s opinion, but I found it somewhat interesting. 

boobs McGee is our backup 

30 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It was discussed last night that Pickett didn’t do well in his two games after Canada was fired. I think there should be a little bit more nuance to it than just looking at the points. Against Cincinnati he did only lead them to 16 points (yep, that’s bad), but he threw for a season-high in yardage (278), yards per anttempt and completion percentage. The Steelers put up over 400 yards of offense, something they never did under Canada.

The following week against Arizona, he got hurt diving toward the end zone, leaving the game with 4th and 1 at the goal line with 5 minutes left in the second quarter. He was 7-10 for 70 yards. The Steelers only TD three points at that time.

I don’t expect that to sway anyone’s opinion, but I found it somewhat interesting. 

Also have to look at prep time to learn a new OC. How many players succeed after being traded to a new team mid season, or players that hold out of camp, or teams that change staff in season? 

We had the same issue last year when Desai was kicked to the curb, Byrd was put in place mid season, Golden Tate was thrown in mid season. Football is a game of repetition and being in sync with your team and coaching staff.

11 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He means the draft capital, obviously. 

Which is also quite minimal.

Would the Broncos trade Surtain for both our 2nd's? Then you trade back from 22 and recoup some, draft a LB and another defensive player or a player that falls unexpectedly. 

9 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

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You’re the DJ Khaled of the EMB. Please make sure to shout "REMEMBERTHEKOY” at least 4-5 times during the video. 

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not a fan of Rudolph but he played way better last year than Pickett in the same offense. For that he gets the nod. 

Rudolph was 3-0, 75% completion and 3 TDS to 0 INT’s. Pickett was 7-5, 62% and 6 TDS to 4 INT’s. 

Rudolph signed a one year contract for up to $3.16 million.  The entire contract for two years of Pickett is about $4.6 million.  Rudolph had three starts, none under Matt Canada.  One against a Ravens team resting its starters.  One against a beat up Cincinnati team.  

Most of Pickett’s starts were with Canada as the OC.  Not a fan of Pickett as a starter but as a cheap backup to compete for #2 with McKee, he is pretty cheap.  

11 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

It cost a day 2 pick

It was a comp pick at the end of Round 3, and they got back 120.  So, 22 picks later.  It isn't some massive overpay.  We are talking about the difference between Siaka Ika (#98) and Carter Warren (#120) from the 2023 draft.  Is that going to get your knickers all bunched up?

 

It's not such a huge difference, and backup QB is kind of an important decision.

I get not liking Pickett. I get not liking giving up draft capital. But what I don't get is fans of this team in particular saying that backup QB isn't important/worth investment. 

10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Which is roughly the equivalent of a 4th rd pick. Not exactly a premium pick, but probably could've been better spent elsewhere.

It could have been spent elsewhere... whether or not it would be 'better' spent elsewhere is a major question.  What QB in this draft is better that would be sitting there in Round 4?  We are talking about a Matt Barkley level investment.   Seems they paid pennies on the dollar.  Granted, he's likely not going to be transformative for the franchise, but frankly, what they gave up likely isn't either.

 

I will be watching closely to see what studs are drafted between 98 and 120 this year.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

FWIW, Colts fans say he’s legit. 

 

2 hours ago, Swoop said:

Consider the source 

Who said it?

10 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

At least we’re in here debating about our QB2 & not needing a new QB1 

 

Bright side people

Let's go rogue and start a campaign for a new QB1... Pickett versus McKee, trade Hurts to recoup pick 98!  

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(Relax, keyboard warriors... its a joke!)

 

10 hours ago, austinfan said:

No one is suggesting Pickett is going to replace Hurts (though I remember when the majority opinion was Hurts was a wasted pick).

But we're talking backup QB, not starter for a PO team. Pickett has upside, with a real OC, a much better OL and much better skill players.

I mean if MInshew can win a starting job, the threshold just ain't that high!

:blush: :ph34r: 

 

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I see next to no upside. He doesn’t have a good arm, he’s not that mobile, he’s not some cerebral QB that can pick apart a defense (I realize this is the one thing that has some chance to change). There’s just not much about him to be excited about. 

He's more mobile than people give him credit for.  

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He's not Michael Vick... but he's no Brock Purdy either.

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10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Fair enough. But for some of the others like afan and HE, that's definitely a factor. You never see them criticize Howie. 

As for Pickett, I'm not as cynical as lean green. He might turn out to be a decent backup, but I just feel like burning that draft capital on him is a luxury we can't afford given the state of our roster. I'd much prefer to spend it on some depth players for OL, DB, or LB.

I hear you... but depth at QB trumps depth needs at OL and DB... and LB?   This team doesn't know what a starting LB is.  All we ever have are 'depth' guys.  :lol: 

 

10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Not a forgone conclusion that we'd have spent 4-8 million on a backup qb. In fact, I'd have much rather traded for Howell given the similar compensation needed.

I agree, I like Howell, but that ship had sailed.  Same with bringing in Easton Stick.  Seems that is what caused the pivot.

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