4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Imagine that. The eagles would have had to use a draft pick to take another backup QB. People would flip. On top of that, the value we gave up was that of a 4th rounder. Concede that we gave up a 3rd rounder- this draft is QB top heavy and by round 3 there is no one worth while. Picket is better than anyone we could have drafted in the 3rd round, or 4th, or later.

It was a good trade. 

I agree that Pickett was probably better than any day 2 or 3 QB available, his contract is dirt cheap especially relative to backup QB market, trade value wasn’t all that bad, and it’s possible Pickett plays better with a better offense. I’ll admit to all those things. 
 

I’m still in the headspace I would have preferred a free agent QB over the trade. I simply don’t care for the player. Maybe I end up being wrong & I’ll admit it if I am, but as of today I don’t care for the trade. I would have preferred Fields also

2 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I agree that Pickett was probably better than any day 2 or 3 QB available, his contract is dirt cheap especially relative to backup QB market, trade value wasn’t all that bad, and it’s possible Pickett plays better with a better offense. I’ll admit to all those things. 
 

I’m still in the headspace I would have preferred a free agent QB over the trade. I simply don’t care for the player. Maybe I end up being wrong & I’ll admit it if I am, but as of today I don’t care for the trade. I would have preferred Fields also

did you watch the o'sullivan breakdown I posted last night? There were numerous issues brought to light. But the issues specific to him look very fixable. Mainly, just footwork that causes him to sail passes high.

Kenny Pickett's best game of the season was the game immediately after Matt Canada got fired. The Steelers' as a team immediately got better too.

 

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

And, I'd assume there are some teams around the NFL who still think Pickett could be an NFL starter. The Eagles aren't the QB Factory that everyone assumes, but Pickett has the potential to be flipped next year. I'd wager a team could pay a higher price for a QB on the final year of his deal and 5th year option still available. 

Seeing as Siranni doesn't play his starters at all in the pre-season (a mistake IMO), Pickett should get lots of tape out there in a more QB friendly offense than he would have had in Pittsburgh. 

If there were teams that think he could be a starter he wouldn’t be traded for cheap 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

did you watch the o'sullivan breakdown I posted last night? There were numerous issues brought to light. But the issues specific to him look very fixable. Mainly, just footwork that causes him to sail passes high.

I didn’t see you posted that, I’ll watch that later tonight when I’m in the gym. Will distract me during cardio lol

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If there were teams that think he could be a starter he wouldn’t be traded for cheap 

Starters and QB draft class for this year are set so yeah, he was had for cheap. The teams that need a starter now are all looking at the draft. Things will change next off-season. Injuries happen in the pre-season. Just trying to look at positives here. 

 

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Looking back on Oren Burks, he was a long and athletic LB. 6'3'' with long arms. Excellent jumps and 3 cone drill. 4.59 40. Former college safety who was new to the LB position and still learning. Played LB 2 years.

Could explain his mid-round projection, and slow to bloom in the NFL. If he started looking better in SF thats promising.

Probably just a special teamer here. But maybe he is just hitting his stride.

Yeah seems like at least stronger depth than we had last year.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sure,  you've got me beat on "laughing memes"


And Outlaw is outstanding at daily personal attacks without punishment whatsoever.

But I did post a short 5-10 player list of udfas here and/or the other Eagles site, VanSumeren was on it,  they did take him,  and he was the best ILB last year as a udfa rookie.

Also,  last year,  same thing,  but Ravens and Keaton Mitchell,  who had the best PFF of any running back last year.



Very few of you are even here on day 3,  very few are pushing out a wish list of free udfas.    Thumbs up to the handful that are here and are paying attention to the players who are not famous.

I don't see too many people tooting their own horn here,  because so few of you are talking about players who aren't famous.  So many of you praise yourself by saying things like "I didn't attack players the Eagles decided to get as much as the rest of the people here."   Not impressive.

I mentioned Covey before the 2022 draft,  VanSumeren during the 2023 draft.

Why don't ALL OF YOU combine your quality ufda picks - add them all together - and we'll see if I have better output,  or if all of you combined have better output?  

What I've done,  just here on this site seems to have surpassed everyone combined,  and I do it elsewhere and have done it often.  

If there was a prize for attacking the team you supposedly like,  you'd win that, not you specifically, but collectively,  but that's not something to be proud of at all.

Show the outcomes,  the obscure players you found.

As a Browns fan back in 2016,  I had a really really close approximation of the 2 stage trade that got the Eagles the Wentz pick.   

Collectively,  EMB doesn't like me.  That's fine.  I don't care when,  largely,  not all that great people don't like me. 

 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

I am always a believer in having a very mobile backup QB. Backups get basically no reps in season, but a mobile player can come into the game and make plays at least. 
 

Not a huge deal, and maybe the Bears wanted a 4th from us (and possibly Fields didn’t want to come here with no chance to compete). 
 

It will be funny watching all the "analysts” who claimed Fields is good have to justify the compensation. 

Or... some who lament Fields going to Pittsburgh to see that he's just not good.  Throwing is important in the NFL.  He can't.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... some who lament Fields going to Pittsburgh to see that he's just not good.  Throwing is important in the NFL.  He can't.

 

Justin Fields ad more TD passes last year in 11 games than Pickett has in 24 career games.  Fields also had more passing yards in those 11 games than Pickett had had in any season in his career.  

Fields might not be a great passer but neither is Pickett.  Both bad QBs but Pickett is worse.  

3 linebackers already signed, nice. 

53 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Collectively,  EMB doesn't like me.  That's fine.  I don't care when,  largely,  not all that great people don't like me. 

 

A 6th for Fields 🤣🤣🤣

Justin Simmons and Tyler Boyd and thats a wrap on free agency for me. 

Is Solak ok?

Has he even watched these players?

Just now, RLC said:

Is Solak ok?

Has he even watched these players?

He's had some weird takes lately when listening to his ideal Eagles offseason plan.

He hates Kenny Pickett more than even I do. He thinks he was even bad in college. Solak has been very down on their offseason moves. The only one he liked was Barkley. He wanted them to spend big at LB.

Solak is ok. I don't think he knows as much as he thinks he does, but he's better than some of the other people out there who know absolutely nothing.

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

As a Browns fan back in 2016,  I had a really really close approximation of the 2 stage trade that got the Eagles the Wentz pick.   

So, you were a Browns fan in '16... are currently also a Ravens fan, while posting here about how all Eagles fans suck.

I call BS on you.  Browns fans hate all things Ravens, everything Ravens for all time and would never be friends with a Ravens fan, let alone ever become a Ravens fan themself.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He's had some weird takes lately when listening to his ideal Eagles offseason plan.

He hates Kenny Pickett more than even I do. He thinks he was even bad in college. Solak has been very down on their offseason moves. The only one he liked was Barkley. He wanted them to spend big at LB.

Solak is ok. I don't think he knows as much as he thinks he does, but he's better than some of the other people out there who know absolutely nothing.

 

He was bad in college.  It wasn't until he was a 5th year college player older than everyone else out there that he was finally able to have a good year. 

3 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

I don't see them taking a lower round flyer on OL.  They just don't do it any more. It's about athletic profile etc that are generally available higher up in the draft.

The 2 top ras OLs this year are Joe Alt (a likely top 10 draft pick)  and Tylan Grable,  who is currently 234 on the mock draft database site.

If you heard famous tv people saying that Tylan Grable should be drafted in the first round,  would you like that pick more,  would you think it more likely that the Eagles would take Grable in the 1st than they would take him in the 5th?

#2 Ras at Tackle, (Alt is 1)  #1 Ras as Guard.  #1 Ras (tied with Alt) 10 ras at Center. 

Find the athletic profile and draft them whereever they are.

7th round LT Mailata.  It was not that long ago.

The Eagles have no need for a RT in 2024.   So they can draft the best athlete.  Who is Grable.  And most NFL teams are drafting for actual, current needs,  and not theoretical future needs.  The Eagles don't need polished,  they could use potential,  and that's what Grable provides.

Ras compare at OT Lane Johnson and Tylan Grable.   Lane has really great numbers across the board.   you don't see too many 4.72 40s from 303 pound OLs.   Grables aren't stunning,  but they're best of the year,  when it comes to speed and jumps (Alt is bigger,  but slower and worse jumps)
https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=10688&p2=19077&pos=OT

9.92 Ras for Lane,  9.85 for Grable
both were dinged for weight,  303 for Lane,  306 for Grable.

All the runs and jumps and everything else were all green - top 20% - for everything.   The colors on both are the same.  orange height,  red weight,  green everything else.

Resume is the same.
High school QB,  then Tight End,  then OT.

It's like the same guy.  But the media isn't talking about Grable.  Grable was a FCS All American when he was at Jacksonville State,  so it's not like he's only a great athlete who can't play.   Honorable mention all Big 12 with UCF.

Eagles should be at the Big 12 combine.

I would want, in addition to Tylan Grable from UCF,  UCF QB John Rhys Plumlee if he runs fast.   He had a higher passer rating this year than any year that McKee had in college  Plumlee,  as a QB, might run in the 4.3s,  and if not, more likely than not 4.4s.  Right now,  the Eagles are in a spot where they don't have a QB who can do Hurts running,  so you'd have to assume the Eagles would be automatically worse if Hurts was out.  Mariota could do the running.  Pickett,  despite the great 10 split,  hasn't really run much.   

John Rhys Plumlee is short like Hurts,  sorta a faster, less powerful runner,  being 20 pounds or so lighter.   Didn't ever had a great passer rating season like Hurts,  but his 150.5 last year,

Also,  John Rhys Plumlee is the centerfielder for the UCF baseball team.

Right now,  he's at 301 at the mock draft database.  could be available as a free agent,  but right now,  no one knows what his numbers are.   They could be really good.  He had a 1000 yard rushing season at Ole Miss. His passing that year wasn't very good. 108.4.  But the running certainly was.  Skip forward to this year, and his passer rating was higher than any of Lamar Jackson's college seasons. Lamar's top in college was One of his years at Ole Miss,  he was a Wide Receiver. 

9    72    8.0    0    19    201    10.6  solid enough results.  a wr.  and a qb.  either, or, both. 

So,  get both him and Tylan Grable from UCF. 

 

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He's had some weird takes lately when listening to his ideal Eagles offseason plan.

He hates Kenny Pickett more than even I do. He thinks he was even bad in college. Solak has been very down on their offseason moves. The only one he liked was Barkley. He wanted them to spend big at LB.

Solak is ok. I don't think he knows as much as he thinks he does, but he's better than some of the other people out there who know absolutely nothing.

He’s a pompous windbag. The explosion of blogs and podcasts has been every armchair nerd with an opinion out there 

Something to keep in mind… Poles said he wanted to "do right” by Fields in any trade. Maybe he didn’t want to come to Philly at all. The Steelers might be saying that Wilson is the starter now, but he is old and on a one-year deal so if he starts slowly Fields has a chance to be the starter moving forward. That wasn’t an option here. 

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

He’s a pompous windbag. The explosion of blogs and podcasts has been every armchair nerd with an opinion out there 

*whispers* I like Solak. He’s pretty smart. 

At least he can do this. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

At least he can do this. 

Need to give him a better number than 48

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

Need to give him a better number than 48

47?