Getting another safety so we can play big nickel should be a priority ore draft. The rest can wait.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think he's still cooking. Defense is still miles away from being respectable. A lot of work to do and the draft won't cover it all.

Edge - Reddick, Sweat, Huff, Smith, BG

DL - Carter, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu

LB - White, Dean, Burks, BVS

S - CJGJ, Blankenship, Brown (50/50 to be ready for opener)

CB - Slay, Bradberry, Ringo, Ricks,

Slot - Rodgers, McPhearson

Edge and DL look great. LB looks bad but I wouldn't expect much more than a cheap vet signing like Cunningham and/or a mid round draft pick.

We definitely need another S but I wouldn't expect them to be in a rush to make any moves there unless they can get someone decent on a 1 year discount.

Outside corner and slot are fine assuming Bradberry bounces back OR Ringo/Ricks step up big time.

I hope I'm wrong but aside from a depth move or two and the draft I'm pretty sure they are done adding to the defense.

42 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think starting Caleb Williams in Week 1 would be a pretty dumb option itself.  The guy has huge bust potential and looks like a "chicken salad” QB to me — allow the scripted play to break down, scramble around for a bit, and try to make chicken salad out of the chicken crap of a play he’s created for himself.  Great arm, terrible footwork, and rather glaring character issues.  He might be a more talented Manziel or Zach Wilson from what I see.  I wouldn’t touch him at #1, but I suspect the Bears will.

You don't draft a QB 1 then sit him behind a guy that can't read a defense, that is just stupid. Who cares if Caleb isn't good in your opinion, Fields is worse, and it's not like Fields is a teacher or some great mentor. 

Remove the distraction 

Sydney Brown tearing his ACL in the last game of the year is brutal. I believe without that injury we’re not talking about needing two safeties, and that money could’ve been spent on LB and or Reddick. 

I'm curious if the Eagles think they have their starting RG on the roster and how confident they are in that

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

You don't draft a QB 1 then sit him behind a guy that can't read a defense, that is just stupid. Who cares if Caleb isn't good in your opinion, Fields is worse, and it's not like Fields is a teacher or some great mentor. 

Remove the distraction 

Boom

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm curious if the Eagles think they have their starting RG on the roster and how confident they are in that

My guess is they feel like they will be fine there and not only that it wouldn't shock anyone who knows this team if they were to draft a future Lane Johnson replacement at 22 who could also kick inside to G if Steen doesn't step up. They obviously drafted Steen to be the RG in 2024 though.

16 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Edge - Reddick, Sweat, Huff, Smith, BG

DL - Carter, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu

LB - White, Dean, Burks, BVS

S - CJGJ, Blankenship, Brown (50/50 to be ready for opener)

CB - Slay, Bradberry, Ringo, Ricks,

Slot - Rodgers, McPhearson

Edge and DL look great. LB looks bad but I wouldn't expect much more than a cheap vet signing like Cunningham and/or a mid round draft pick.

We definitely need another S but I wouldn't expect them to be in a rush to make any moves there unless they can get someone decent on a 1 year discount.

Outside corner and slot are fine assuming Bradberry bounces back OR Ringo/Ricks step up big time.

I hope I'm wrong but aside from a depth move or two and the draft I'm pretty sure they are done adding to the defense.

I still think they will probably trade Reddick, which would make the defense worse on paper than it was last year. I think Reddick is a bigger net loss than any of the players they added were a gain.

CB - I think it’s in kind of a disaster state right now. They have no sure slot corner. Maybe they play CJGJ there, maybe they play him at safety or make him a hybrid, we just don’t know. Rodgers is a total unknown having missed a year and it’s not like he was some proven star when he was playing. Bradberry is cooked. Ringo is still a relative unknown. They still need at least two CBs as far as I’m concerned. A slot guy and an outside guy.

Safety I still think they need a starting caliber guy. Blankenship is about as meh as the day is long, and Brown tore his ACL in December. He may not be back by October for all we know and even if he is he may not look right. They need insurance there in case. Plus they may not even view CJGJ as a full time safety if they play him as a hybrid. And he has injury issues as it is. They definitely need another starting level guy there.

LB.., ugh don’t get me started. A total mess right now. Not only has Dean looked totally average when he was on the field he’s been really injury prone. And he had two lis franc injuries in the same season. Who knows how he’ll even look next season if he can even stay in the field. Relying on him as a starter is a fool’s errand,

So I think they need two CBs, one LB, another safety, and they may be losing Reddick. I think the defense is in a really bad way right now. I think they are probably done at LB because the market simply doesn’t have anyone left, but they could and should bring in another safety and the guys who cover the team have been consistent all saying they could still make a trade for a corner. Whether it be Lattimore or Horn. Surtain is a pipe dream that isn’t happening.

14 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm curious if the Eagles think they have their starting RG on the roster and how confident they are in that

I think they will draft one in the first 4 rounds. They've been meeting with a ton of interior linemen and I think for a reason. All but a few of their draft meetings have been linemen.

16 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I still think they will probably trade Reddick, which would make the defense worse on paper than it was last year. I think Reddick is a bigger net loss than any of the players they added were a gain.

CB - I think it’s in kind of a disaster state right now. They have no sure slot corner. Maybe they play CJGJ there, maybe they play him at safety or make him a hybrid, we just don’t know. Rodgers is a total unknown having missed a year and it’s not like he was some proven star when he was playing. Bradberry is cooked. Ringo is still a relative unknown. They still need at least two CBs as far as I’m concerned. A slot guy and an outside guy.

Safety I still think they need a starting caliber guy. Blankenship is about as meh as the day is long, and Brown tore his ACL in December. He may not be back by October for all we know and even if he is he may not look right. They need insurance there in case. Plus they may not even view CJGJ as a full time safety if they play him as a hybrid. And he has injury issues as it is. They definitely need another starting level guy there.

LB.., ugh don’t get me started. A total mess right now. Not only has Dean looked totally average when he was on the field he’s been really injury prone. And he had two lis franc injuries in the same season. Who knows how he’ll even look next season if he can even stay in the field. Relying on him as a starter is a fool’s errand,

So I think they need two CBs, one LB, another safety, and they may be losing Reddick. I think the defense is in a really bad way right now. I think they are probably done at LB because the market simply doesn’t have anyone left, but they could and should bring in another safety and the guys who cover the team have been consistent all saying they could still make a trade for a corner. Whether it be Lattimore or Horn. Surtain is a pipe dream that isn’t happening.

Until/if they trade Reddick they are still loaded at edge. Even without him they are better than the average team with Huff, Sweat, BG, and if Smith has a pulse. Baun is a dark horse too as he was really good as a pass rushing edge at Wisconsin.

I just don't agree with you about corner. Bradberry was bad last year but I don't believe he went from an all-pro to totally finished in one year especially when so many other guys on the defense regressed last year as well. Slay is fine on one side and you either need a Bradberry bounce back or Ringo or Ricks to step up if he is done. Worst case scenario Howie makes a mid season trade and I wouldn't be surprised to see them draft a CB on day 1 or 2 of the draft. Slot corners are a dime a dozen in this league and even if Rodgers or McPhearson isn't the answer they will find someone. Do I feel great about the corner position, no, but I think it's fine.

Yes LB sucks but I'm just being realistic and telling you the obvious which is that they won't add much to the position other than depth at this point.

I agree they need another Safety and all of the positions being discussed here that is the one I could still see them adding to, I just don't expect it to be anything other than a bargain one year deal as the market slows down. Maybe they get an older guy as a band-aid like Eddie Jackson or Quandre Diggs or maybe they bring back someone familiar like Wallace or Evans. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see them getting Simmons or Blackmon.

My overall point would be that it's impossible to fill every hole in one off-season and their defense needs a lot of work. They are going to have to rely on some young guys to step up this year and go defense heavy in the draft this year.

Coaching will immediately fix a good bit of the problems they had on defense last year.

15 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Yup. Poles said he wanted to do right by Fields (and more likely his agent). 

They sent him to probably one of the top 5 worst places to have a QB develop at.

45 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think he's still cooking. Defense is still miles away from being respectable. A lot of work to do and the draft won't cover it all.

I think you're underestimating the "Fangio" factor. He's got a long track record of producing top ten defenses, and he has real talent to work with in Philly.

I think they'll add more, Howie never stops tinkering with the roster, but there's more than enough.

They have solid depth on DL, Carter, Williams, Davis, Ojomo, Tuo, Ellis, Graham, athleticism at OLB/DE with Huff, Sweat, Reddick, Smith, Baun. Faster at ILB. Adding White and Burks along with keeping VanSumeran tells me Fangio wants speed and explosion, which suggests "A" gap blitzes (with both OLBs dropping into coverage) might be a wrinkle.

We don't know how Fangio sees the young DBs, they all got game experience last season, some will step up (and others out).

A lot of being a good DC is knowing how to use your best players, and how to protect the rest of your players. The defensive schemes were so vanilla last season that it exposed a number of players.

Just now, austinfan said:

I think you're underestimating the "Fangio" factor. He's got a long track record of producing top ten defenses, and he has real talent to work with in Philly.

I think they'll add more, Howie never stops tinkering with the roster, but there's more than enough.

They have solid depth on DL, Carter, Williams, Davis, Ojomo, Tuo, Ellis, Graham, athleticism at OLB/DE with Huff, Sweat, Reddick, Smith, Baun. Faster at ILB. Adding White and Burks along with keeping VanSumeran tells me Fangio wants speed and explosion, which suggests "A" gap blitzes (with both OLBs dropping into coverage) might be a wrinkle.

We don't know how Fangio sees the young DBs, they all got game experience last season, some will step up (and others out).

A lot of being a good DC is knowing how to use your best players, and how to protect the rest of your players. The defensive schemes were so vanilla last season that it exposed a number of players.

Yep

33 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Sydney Brown tearing his ACL in the last game of the year is brutal. I believe without that injury we’re not talking about needing two safeties, and that money could’ve been spent on LB and or Reddick. 

Sydney Brown looked nowhere near ready last season to be a starting NFL safety.  He was a liability out there much of the time.  Poor tackling, poor angles …. he’s really raw.  Even if he were totally healthy I’d want him redshirted one more season.

31 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm curious if the Eagles think they have their starting RG on the roster and how confident they are in that

One of my predictions is Howie nabs Zak Zinter. There's a little Landon to his game and he will fall due to injury. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Sydney Brown looked nowhere near ready last season to be a starting NFL safety.  He was a liability out there much of the time.  Poor tackling, poor angles …. he’s really raw.  Even if he were totally healthy I’d want him redshirted one more season.

Good point. So many people were in love with him last season because he was flying around on the field. The problem is he was flying around and getting out of position and missing a lot of tackles. I think there's a lot of upside there but he has a lot of work to do and the injury will really get in the way of that development this off-season / this coming season. They shouldn't be counting on him as anything more than a 4th S this year.

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Claiming to be a Browns fan, while also claiming to be a Ravens fan raised the red flag higher than it ever has been.   He's a troll.

On the surface this actually isn’t insane (based off the Cle/Balt history)…but given the poster, it is.

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

You left Evans out of the list of S failures.  Think it is too early to judge Brown.  Give him an incomplete. 

 I think Jurgens, as an undersized RG, being greater than Steen is an unknown at this time.  The other name there should be Kinnard.  Hennessy is the back up C and active G at this point not really in content for RG unless Steen is a cluster F.   

Smith was a SAM/OLB last year. Huff is listed as a DE.  I think in 4/3 alignments it’s Sweat Williams/Davis Carter Huff with Reddick or some other of the OLBs (Smith, Baun, Okwara) playing the SAM role.  I expect a lot more rotation at DE, OLB and a lot of line variations, 3/4, 4i, maybe even some variation of the wide 9 (Howie has brought in some speed on the outside to complement Reddick, Sweat and Smith.mm

Brown needs to be watching 2017 and 18 Jenkins game tape during his entire recovery.  Throw out the rest of the years…since as much as I loved Jenkins, he was wildly inconsistent.  

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Good point. So many people were in love with him last season because he was flying around on the field. The problem is he was flying around and getting out of position and missing a lot of tackles. I think there's a lot of upside there but he has a lot of work to do and the injury will really get in the way of that development this off-season / this coming season. They shouldn't be counting on him as anything more than a 4th S this year.

Yea, he wasn't ready but what sucks the most is that instead of being on the field learning the new defense, new coaches, communicating with new teammates, he's going to be rehabbing. The timing of his injury was just the worst. 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sydney Brown looked nowhere near ready last season to be a starting NFL safety.  He was a liability out there much of the time.  Poor tackling, poor angles …. he’s really raw.  Even if he were totally healthy I’d want him redshirted one more season.

I think he was improving and coming along. Either way, not having the offseason to improve really sucks. I see the upside with him. 

29 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I still think they will probably trade Reddick, which would make the defense worse on paper than it was last year. I think Reddick is a bigger net loss than any of the players they added were a gain.

CB - I think it’s in kind of a disaster state right now. They have no sure slot corner. Maybe they play CJGJ there, maybe they play him at safety or make him a hybrid, we just don’t know. Rodgers is a total unknown having missed a year and it’s not like he was some proven star when he was playing. Bradberry is cooked. Ringo is still a relative unknown. They still need at least two CBs as far as I’m concerned. A slot guy and an outside guy.

Safety I still think they need a starting caliber guy. Blankenship is about as meh as the day is long, and Brown tore his ACL in December. He may not be back by October for all we know and even if he is he may not look right. They need insurance there in case. Plus they may not even view CJGJ as a full time safety if they play him as a hybrid. And he has injury issues as it is. They definitely need another starting level guy there.

LB.., ugh don’t get me started. A total mess right now. Not only has Dean looked totally average when he was on the field he’s been really injury prone. And he had two lis franc injuries in the same season. Who knows how he’ll even look next season if he can even stay in the field. Relying on him as a starter is a fool’s errand,

So I think they need two CBs, one LB, another safety, and they may be losing Reddick. I think the defense is in a really bad way right now. I think they are probably done at LB because the market simply doesn’t have anyone left, but they could and should bring in another safety and the guys who cover the team have been consistent all saying they could still make a trade for a corner. Whether it be Lattimore or Horn. Surtain is a pipe dream that isn’t happening.

Well done.  Am pretty close to you.  First step is Reddick comes back.  Really need that to happen and for him to start lighting it up.  If Huff can do the same, then we at least have pressure again.  Maybe that will also unlock Carter in the 3-4.

43 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

You don't draft a QB 1 then sit him behind a guy that can't read a defense, that is just stupid. Who cares if Caleb isn't good in your opinion, Fields is worse, and it's not like Fields is a teacher or some great mentor. 

Remove the distraction 

I won’t disagree with you that Fields stinks.  He clearly does, and what’s done now is done.  CHI now has only Tyson Bagent on the roster at QB and they’ll need to bring in an established veteran QB along with drafting one at #1.  
 

Where we disagree is that, IMO, whoever that veteran bridge QB  is should start the season and let Williams learn a bit rather than throwing him out there right away.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Until/if they trade Reddick they are still loaded at edge. Even without him they are better than the average team with Huff, Sweat, BG, and if Smith has a pulse. Baun is a dark horse too as he was really good as a pass rushing edge at Wisconsin.

I just don't agree with you about corner. Bradberry was bad last year but I don't believe he went from an all-pro to totally finished in one year especially when so many other guys on the defense regressed last year as well. Slay is fine on one side and you either need a Bradberry bounce back or Ringo or Ricks to step up if he is done. Worst case scenario Howie makes a mid season trade and I wouldn't be surprised to see them draft a CB on day 1 or 2 of the draft. Slot corners are a dime a dozen in this league and even if Rodgers or McPhearson isn't the answer they will find someone. Do I feel great about the corner position, no, but I think it's fine.

Yes LB sucks but I'm just being realistic and telling you the obvious which is that they won't add much to the position other than depth at this point.

I agree they need another Safety and all of the positions being discussed here that is the one I could still see them adding to, I just don't expect it to be anything other than a bargain one year deal as the market slows down. Maybe they get an older guy as a band-aid like Eddie Jackson or Quandre Diggs or maybe they bring back someone familiar like Wallace or Evans. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see them getting Simmons or Blackmon.

My overall point would be that it's impossible to fill every hole in one off-season and their defense needs a lot of work. They are going to have to rely on some young guys to step up this year and go defense heavy in the draft this year.

Coaching will immediately fix a good bit of the problems they had on defense last year.

I would agree about Bradberry if he was out of position a lot and it looked like a byproduct of bad coaching, but he was getting flat out beat and looked like he was running in quicksand. I think once CBs lose that speed, it's gone and it doesn't return. We saw it with Nnamdi, how fast it fell off for him. The guy couldn't move anymore and his career was over shortly after. I unfortunately think Bradberry is headed toward the same path.

We all assumed the Niners were bitter and vindictive losing the NFCCG when players like Deebo came out and said how much Bradberry sucked. And maybe they were, but in hindsight I wonder if they saw something on film with him in 2022 that just didn't show up to your average fans when watching live because for whatever reason teams didn't or couldn't exploit it. Bradberry got picked on in the Super Bowl too a little bit and since then coming into this season it's been all down hill. I think the guy is totally shot. In general, I'm sick of the yearly experiments at CB depth. Over the years the Eagles have tried a laundry list of names there from Scott to Ricks to Jobe to Goodrich to Roby

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, he wasn't ready but what sucks the most is that instead of being on the field learning the new defense, new coaches, communicating with new teammates, he's going to be rehabbing. The timing of his injury was just the worst. 

Yep, it's really going to put him behind going into the season even IF he is healthy enough to suit up for week 1.