Looking at kick return options

1 TD in this highlight video of Isaiah Rodgers.

Already posted this one of Tyler Hall with a couple great kick returns.

 

And a Paris Campbell return

 

 

We have 3 legit options here. Which is nice since we usually have 0.

10 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Is this a joke? CJGJ missed more games in both 2022 and 2023 than Blankenship missed this year. Blank isn't even the one that's the most injured, what's with the bias?

Edit: It's worse than that actually. CJGJ hasn't ever started as many games in a season in his CAREER as Blankenship did this year. Blank isn't the one you should be worried about.

If you read my post shortly after this one I also mentioned CJGJ's injury history. This conversation was me criticizing the lack of moves made at safety and TEW was saying any moves would block young safeties 

With the Paris Cambbell signing, this may not need to be said but here is a reminder of Covey's elusiveness and burst after the catch which would make him a fantastic competitor for the #3 WR position if its going to incorporate a ton of motions and jet sweeps, and screens. Covey wasnt in motion a lot in these highlights, but you can clearly see the skillset that would allow him to thrive in that role.

 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

With the Paris Cambbell signing, this may not need to be said but here is a reminder of Covey's elusiveness and burst after the catch which would make him a fantastic competitor for the #3 WR position if its going to incorporate a ton of motions and jet sweeps, and screens. Covey wasnt in motion a lot in these highlights, but you can clearly see the skillset that would allow him to thrive in that role.

 

I actually think it’s time to get Covey some more opportunities in the offense, I would like to see what he can do. At worst, you know he’s a quality PR, maybe he develops into a decent WR3 or WR4? 

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

his kid looks like hes going to have the same size. Hes almost there already. what were the numbers like?

 

Just now, Dwide Schrude said:

I actually think it’s time to get Covey some more opportunities in the offense, I would like to see what he can do. At worst, you know he’s a quality PR, maybe he develops into a decent WR3 or WR4? 

I can really see him and Campbell filling that same movement guy role that Moore supposedly likes utilize. I wouldnt be too shocked if Covey is actually the front runner there, and Campbell is his competition. And I wouldnt mind seeing both make the team so that we still have that player in case one of them gets hurt.

 

At the other spot, Parker is sort of a big slot. And its not a sexy pick in a deep WR draft, but Devaughn Vele from Utah would compete for that role nicely and only cost a later round pick. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

I just saw that, and also saw this. Hes actually 6'2'' (kinda)

Kinda like a poor mans Xavier Leggette perhaps?

 

19 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I’m not sure if I or anyone else has brought it up but anyone also think Graham Barton might be a dark horse pick at 22? 

Not a surprise. Can play G or T, so could start right away if needed.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Suspend him for gambling 😂

23 minutes ago, RLC said:

Not a surprise. Can play G or T, so could start right away if needed.

I feel like his long term spot would end up being RG, so theoretically Steen would be future RT. I’d prefer not to use a 1st rd pick on future RG. But lately I’ve been wondering if maybe we have had it all wrong & Steen was drafted with the intent of being the future RT after Lane

Poor Terique Owens is already trying to distance himself from his dad's circus

This stood out in the interview I was reading. https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2024/02/terique-owens/

What is one thing that NFL teams should know about you?

I don’t have a loud personality. For the most part I’m fairly quiet and I keep my head down down and work. 

Rumors the Eagles were interested some days back.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve already decided we are drafting a corner at 22, then in round 2 we’re picking a guard and WR. Steen then moves to swing tackle. Bing bang boom. 

I do find it interesting all the Gs they are bringing in.  Now Stout and probably Paganetti (Istvan used to) are on the road also working out prospects at Pro Days.  For 2024 they have as possible G/Ts Kinnard, Steen, Toth and even Fred Johnson (although PE.Com only list Toth as both and Steen as an OL) and at C/G Hennessy, Poe and L. Smith (although PE..com list Hennessy and Smith as OL and Poe just as a C). Now that’s a lot of future contracts and one year deals except for Steen (Fred on the second year of his two year deal). Eagles have been reluctant to have one position players on OL, so I think depth is in play.  Also probably looking at Lane’s eventual replacement.  I would not be surprised if the Eagles draft two.  Surprised not much report on Cs.  A number of the Ts they visited with are day 2 picks.  

Glad you have bought into my, maybe Steen is the swing T suggestion  

Don’t think a corner is a given but it would fit with the draft for the future.  

BPA but suitor available with a good offer, I expect Howie builds some draft capital with Day 1 and Day 2 trades. 

55 minutes ago, devpool said:

If you read my post shortly after this one I also mentioned CJGJ's injury history. This conversation was me criticizing the lack of moves made at safety and TEW was saying any moves would block young safeties 

In context that's a little better. Honestly though, I'm not sure I agree with TEW's take or not. The level of ball Blankenship played last year was much more solid than he gets credit for, especially considering the pieces around him. He played with a total JAG beside him the first half of the year, he played with a pair of corners that were clearly a year older, and the pass rush in comparison to 2022 was trash. But he still played pretty darn well. Not perfect, but well. And for a 2nd year former UDFA, that's exactly what you want to see if you're looking for a hidden gem.

He started 15 games too during the regular season, which while not the pinnacle of health, is pretty good.

I think if you're smart, you continue to develop this kind of thing. Pieces that looked good despite the defense as a whole being much worse should be notable. But instead a lot of people are saying he should be safety 3 despite doing better in a lot of areas with WAY less than CJGJ had, and I just don't get it. People are clamoring for CJGJ despite that he can't stay healthy to save his life, and then they're also saying that they should get another guy and start him over Blank because of that so Blank can back up CJGJ. Why not just get a safety that could stay healthy (and for a bonus, actually tackle) to begin with if they're now worried about the health of him too?

I just don't get it man. That said, if you're thinking of the team specifically - sure, another S makes sense. But you definitely shot yourself in the foot in terms of developing your S on the roster.

43 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

How does he do at drops?  Can he rival his dad?

12 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I do find it interesting all the Gs they are bringing in.  Now Stout and probably Paganetti (Istvan used to) are on the road also working out prospects at Pro Days.  For 2024 they have as possible G/Ts Kinnard, Steen, Toth and even Fred Johnson (although PE.Com only list Toth as both and Steen as an OL) and at C/G Hennessy, Poe and L. Smith (although PE..com list Hennessy and Smith as OL and Poe just as a C). Now that’s a lot of future contracts and one year deals except for Steen (Fred on the second year of his two year deal). Eagles have been reluctant to have one position players on OL, so I think depth is in play.  Also probably looking at Lane’s eventual replacement.  I would not be surprised if the Eagles draft two.  Surprised not much report on Cs.  A number of the Ts they visited with are day 2 picks.  

Glad you have bought into my, maybe Steen is the swing T suggestion  

Don’t think a corner is a given but it would fit with the draft for the future.  

BPA but suitor available with a good offer, I expect Howie builds some draft capital with Day 1 and Day 2 trades. 

I think we see one OL drafted in 1st or 2nd for RG/future RT & one drafted for depth on day 3. 
 

I know we weren’t all that crazy about Driscoll but I imagine Howie would like to find a player like him again in the later rounds. 

40 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Poor Terique Owens is already trying to distance himself from his dad's circus

This stood out in the interview I was reading. https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2024/02/terique-owens/

What is one thing that NFL teams should know about you?

I don’t have a loud personality. For the most part I’m fairly quiet and I keep my head down down and work. 

But we really need to know, how many situps can he do in the driveway?

Will T.O.2 be drafted?  I didn’t even know he had a son that age

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I can really see him and Campbell filling that same movement guy role that Moore supposedly likes utilize. I wouldnt be too shocked if Covey is actually the front runner there, and Campbell is his competition. And I wouldnt mind seeing both make the team so that we still have that player in case one of them gets hurt.

 

At the other spot, Parker is sort of a big slot. And its not a sexy pick in a deep WR draft, but Devaughn Vele from Utah would compete for that role nicely and only cost a later round pick. 

the Eagles could use a top pick to draft a WR who is similar to Brown or Smith.  And then, if that top pick is good,  let one of Brown or Smith go,  and not have to pay 2 WRs $20 Million a year each.   Agree about Campbell and Covey.  Before they got Campbell,  WR3 was a need.  Now it isn't.    Parker seems like a Brown backup.   I didn't like how Brown and Smith were the WR duo on the field the most last year.  Both were hurt,  Brown missed the playoff game.   We know that the Eagles can go 10-1 in the regular season with only 3 pass catchers - Brown, Smith, Goedert,  and we know that injuries and losses follow that, and then a first round playoff loss.   I personally don't care at all about doing things that get Brown and/or Smith and/or Goedert great stats and all pro.  In Brown's case,  we just did that,  we don't need to do that again.

55 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

But we really need to know, how many situps can he do in the driveway?

I’m more concerned if he can properly maintain his grass. Owens sure couldn’t. 

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

In context that's a little better. Honestly though, I'm not sure I agree with TEW's take or not. The level of ball Blankenship played last year was much more solid than he gets credit for, especially considering the pieces around him. He played with a total JAG beside him the first half of the year, he played with a pair of corners that were clearly a year older, and the pass rush in comparison to 2022 was trash. But he still played pretty darn well. Not perfect, but well. And for a 2nd year former UDFA, that's exactly what you want to see if you're looking for a hidden gem.

He started 15 games too during the regular season, which while not the pinnacle of health, is pretty good.

I think if you're smart, you continue to develop this kind of thing. Pieces that looked good despite the defense as a whole being much worse should be notable. But instead a lot of people are saying he should be safety 3 despite doing better in a lot of areas with WAY less than CJGJ had, and I just don't get it. People are clamoring for CJGJ despite that he can't stay healthy to save his life, and then they're also saying that they should get another guy and start him over Blank because of that so Blank can back up CJGJ. Why not just get a safety that could stay healthy (and for a bonus, actually tackle) to begin with if they're now worried about the health of him too?

I just don't get it man. That said, if you're thinking of the team specifically - sure, another S makes sense. But you definitely shot yourself in the foot in terms of developing your S on the roster.

Blankenship started 15 games but how many did he finish? Seemed like he got hurt every single game. He's fine but you can't have Blankenship and nothing. CJGJ is a better nickel, and again always hurt. They should sign Simmons to start opposite Blankenship so CJGJ can start at nickel and play as the 3rd safety. 

Going into the season we're probably going to have Blankenship, cjgj, and a 4th/5th round draft pick. Then by week 4 one of blank or CJGJ will be hurt and we'll be starting a rookie or signing a bum off the street when we could've had a much better safety.

Unless they find a gem in the draft we'll be looking back at this FA period mid season wondering why we didn't sign one of the better S 

It’s at the time of year where this guy actually sucks & this guy actually rules. People are saying Drake Maye is QB4 and JJ is QB3. lol 

I went and watched the 2022 Parris Campbell highlight package and it felt like 6 out of every 10 plays to him were bubble screens.

Me: Oh no...

51 minutes ago, devpool said:

Blankenship started 15 games but how many did he finish? Seemed like he got hurt every single game. He's fine but you can't have Blankenship and nothing. CJGJ is a better nickel, and again always hurt. They should sign Simmons to start opposite Blankenship so CJGJ can start at nickel and play as the 3rd safety. 

Going into the season we're probably going to have Blankenship, cjgj, and a 4th/5th round draft pick. Then by week 4 one of blank or CJGJ will be hurt and we'll be starting a rookie or signing a bum off the street when we could've had a much better safety.

Unless they find a gem in the draft we'll be looking back at this FA period mid season wondering why we didn't sign one of the better S 

Cooper DeJean should be the pick at 22.

Seems like the Eagles like to fill gaps based on the calls for specific draft picks.

The Eagles lost Byard,  who did have a PFF in the 70s, so he wasn't one of the bad ones.  They also lost Maddox, who was bad last year.  So,  you have 1 Safety down and one Nickel down.  Then CJGJ is back.  Apparently as a Safety?  But he can play Nickel.  Cooper DeJean can play all 5 db spots, apparently.    If everyone calls for DeJean,  maybe they'll sign Simmons?  I'd like DeJean.  

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I went and watched the 2022 Parris Campbell highlight package and it felt like 6 out of every 10 plays to him were bubble screens.

Me: Oh no...

He's a versatile weapon.   He's fast,  won the combine,  etc. He was a running back in high school, running for 1500 yards.  He's under 6'0 and he's over 200 pounds.  He's about the same size as McCaffrey.   Doesn't have McCaffrey's excellent 3 Cone,  but the rest of his numbers are better than McCaffrey.

He was a running back, is really fast,  probably not a great route runner because when most of the wrs in the NFL were in hs,  they were practicing running routes.   At Ohio State,  he was probably the weapony wr, not the big wr or the great route runner.

So,  bubble screen,  that's what they chose to do to get the ball in the hands of the fast weapony guy.   Kellen Moore apparently likes to use jet sweeps.   So, expect that.   Parris is a big upgrade over Quez when it comes to runs.  Quez was the closest thing to weapony guy the Eagles could recognize was on the roster,  and he wasn't good at runs.  entire career with the Eagles,  4 carries,  4 yards.   Parris Campbell had a yards per carry of 9.8.   I'd want to dial that up over and over.

Kellen Moore also likes 2 running backs.   Parris Campbell was an I formation Tailback in high school. QB under center,  pitch to Parris Campbell who runs outside from the tailback spot 10 yards behind center.  And he's 4.31,  so that should work well.  Pair him with Barkley.   You can see Campbell running between the tackles in high school.  You can see McCaffrey running between the tackles in the NFL.  

ras compare McCaffrey and Covey