Just now, eagle45 said:

I don't think the Panthers are itching to unload the 8th overall pick from just a couple years ago.

Probably not, but the Panthers are likely not picking up his 5th year option. Horn is also playing for his 5th NFL head coach in 4 years!

I feel it's getting close to the point with Reddick where if he isn't traded soon it won't happen until the draft, if at all. Eventually any teams remotely interested will just decide they'll wait until the draft to see if they can fill their pass rush needs there with a rookie they'll have cost controlled for years instead of trading for a guy who will be 30 in September.

But the Eagles only pushed back that bonus to April 1st, which is in 9 days. If he doesn't get traded in the next 9 days, and I don't know why he would at this point, chances probably shoot up that he stays.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

I don’t think there is any world where someone gives up a 2025 second. But even if someone did, I’d still take a third this year.

We need the depth and we need guys in the system with a year of experience because we aren’t going to have the cap room next year to make moves.

A third rounder gets you a good WR, LB, or OG prospect this year. 

Or it gets you nothing

18 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He'd be a fun pick due to his specs, but he probably wouldn't do much for half his rookie deal.  2 years to get him up to speed.  That's fine for a day 3 pick and I'd be excited.  If another team falls in love with the measurables and wants to draft him in the 2nd-3rd round, then they can have him.

Yeah, in no way would I even consider him in the top 100.

Though, I do think he could contribute year 2. Let Stoutland coach him up as a blocker, and with his size/athleticism I think you could get him some mismatches given the other weapons we have.

5 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Or it gets you nothing

*prospect

3 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

Better off getting 2025 value if he is moved. We have more than enough in this one and it's not even the deepest draft. 

Perhaps... but then also we could get that in a comp pick if we don't trade him.  AND, we still have him for the 2024 season.

3 hours ago, austinfan said:

At this point I don't even know why they run the 40 anymore, given today's technology, just let AI determine his speed off game film, in pads, doing football things.

Football things are grossly overrated.  RAS score is all that matters.

2 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

I would think you get the higher picks in 2025, that's how it usually works. And we have enough in this draft already I think, unless the Cards are giving you pick 35 then I'd think differently. Maybe to get that pick we throw them back a later round selection to sweeten it up?

Not what I meant.  I meant that if they are getting a 5th round in 2024, that's a 4th in 2025, but the comp pick would be slightly better... AND we get to keep Reddick for a season.

2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

"To Win a Super Bowl, you either need the best player (eg Tom Brady) or make a decision that could cost you your job.”

-Howie Roseman

Yeah... I guess that decision was hiring Chip Kelly?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not what I meant.  I meant that if they are getting a 5th round in 2024, that's a 4th in 2025, but the comp pick would be slightly better... AND we get to keep Reddick for a season.

But you don’t get the comp pick till 2026 

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

I keep trying to tell people that they didn't bring him in with the idea that he will just be a camp body. My guess is they really liked him in the draft and think they can turn him into a player.

Who thought that that you had to tell this to?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Who do you guys think is a better QB4 than Will Grier right now? 

Kyler Murray.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah... I guess that decision was hiring Chip Kelly?

Chip's 1st year was so fun man. Then it went to hell because he refused to adjust and be an adult.

9 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said:

But you don’t get the comp pick till 2026 

Pretty sure you get it in 2025 for free agents lost after 2024.   

 

Or maybe I am mistaken.  

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Chip's 1st year was so fun man. Then it went to hell because he refused to adjust and be an adult.

It was... but then Howie got moved to the closet in 2015 (basically fired)... and then they won the Super Bowl 2 years later.    So, he did both.  🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Pretty sure you get it in 2025 for free agents lost after 2024.   For example, we got the 2024 picks, based on players leaving after 2023.

Comp picks are given a year after that free agency period. So if Josh Sweat leaves in free agency in March 2025, we only get comp picks in March 2026. 

Good story. Dallin Holker got caught tresspassing while at Colorado State. Him and his wife would jump the fence when the practice facility was closed and he would have her load the jugs machine for him to get in extra work.

 

17 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Pretty sure you get it in 2025 for free agents lost after 2024.   

 

Or maybe I am mistaken.  

1 minute ago, Cheesteakitis said:

It's happened before.   

Ive seen some Tip Reimann mentioned in here. Ive seen Dallin Holker's name. Ive seen my guy McLauchlan in a bunch of mock simulators posted in here. Of course Theo Johnson after his combine workout...

One guy who I havent seen anyone talk about is Ben Sinnott. Really interesting things these guys have to say about him. Very intrigued.

 

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's happened before.   

To all of us 🙂

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean his value to them playing is worth more than a 3rd. It always has been. Unless they get a 2nd and likely a conditional pick, I’ve always assumed they do what the cardinals did with Buddha baker where they gave him some more money to smooth things over without giving him an extension  

The Eagles might not want to pay Reddick $20 Million this year.   I haven't seen paying Reddick a lot of money this year as a factor in any sort of equation.  

Usually the Eagles have been paying signing bonuses and option bonuses.  But Reddick is one of the few players who has a sizeable base salary this year. If the Eagles need money,  Reddick is one of the few they can trade, and then get money they can spend somewhere else.    The Eagles have a lot of LBs and DEs. I don't remember  players in those categories leaving,  but they did add an expensive new one.  Huff was expensive.  Reddick is expensive.  Having 5 OLBs each playing 20% of the snaps could be seen as spending too much money at one position. 

8 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

The Eagles might not want to pay Reddick $20 Million this year.   I haven't seen paying Reddick a lot of money this year as a factor in any sort of equation.  

Usually the Eagles have been paying signing bonuses and option bonuses.  But Reddick is one of the few players who has a sizeable base salary this year. If the Eagles need money,  Reddick is one of the few they can trade, and then get money they can spend somewhere else.    The Eagles have a lot of LBs and DEs. I don't remember  players in those categories leaving,  but they did add an expensive new one.  Huff was expensive.  Reddick is expensive.  Having 5 OLBs each playing 20% of the snaps could be seen as spending too much money at one position. 

Yep, plus as you pointed out earlier they can just draft Worthy to replace the sack production that Reddick gives you

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Tells you pretty much everything you need to know about Reddick's trade market.

No health concerns with Reddick

The offseason, minus the draft, has pretty much come into view.  That means, the 2024 roster is coming into view.  As we all know, the draft doesn’t yield instant reliable impact, even in round 1…especially for this franchise.  So, barring a blockbuster trade, I don’t think we can expect any fantastic starters that aren’t on the roster already.

But…only a few questions remain.  The first question isn’t position specific.  The Eagles have a pretty comparable core roster to 2022 and compared to 2023.  Which of those extremes are the real Eagles?  

On paper, the Eagles have a very good roster that is handicapped by unquestionably the worst back 7 in the NFL.  Is the front 4 ferocious enough…Hurts Mahomes enough…are the weapons 1999 Rams enough…to compensate for a hideous back 7 so they can win a SB?  We all know the answer is probably no…that’s why the Eagles are tied for 7th best SB odds.  That means the oddsmakers see the Eagles as a very good team, in the conversation and better than 2023…but not someone to put money on making a run.

My concern is that, due to cap constraints, the 2025 Eagles will be the 2024 Eagles running it back.  If we don’t see some massive leap forward this year into perennial contender status, we irrevocably slide into a several year locked-in ride with the Hurts contract kicking in where they will be good but not close to good enough.  That’s kind of the ride that the 76ers are getting ready to finish and the one that the Phillies are mid-cruise in right now.