8 minutes ago, TEW said:

If that were the case they would take what they could get for him before the 2024 draft.

I would think that June 1 plays a role in this.  If they wait until June 1,  can they split up the paid bonuses into 2 years,  and save about $7 Million for this years cap?

The Eagles really didn't lose anybody at the DE or OLB positions.  Yet they added an expensive new player there.  Unless the Eagles are trying something new,  maybe putting LBs on offense as FBs, they have added a number of DE/OLB/ILB,  creating a big room there.  I'm going with the idea that the Eagles want a bunch of fun suggestions for these players on offense so that they can keep an extra DE/OLB/ILB or 2. 

On DL,   Fletcher Cox is gone and was not replaced, and a day 1/2 pick seems plausible. 

14 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane reported they want no part of his 21m cap number for 2024. So the options are trade or redo the deal. Maybe McLane is wrong, but that's what he reported. But generally speaking in a perfect world I do think they'd like to have him on the team if his salary was of no consequence.

We have 30M in cap space, while already carrying his 21M cap number. We don't have to do anything. 

A holy Thursday Justin Simmons signing is just what God intended. This could be the day. 

On 3/25/2024 at 7:33 PM, T-1000 said:

Trying to wrap my head around the fact that that is now NOT a legal way to tackle someone in football..........🙄

Advantage Eagles. Leveled the playing field. Now the rest of the league can't tackle either. Philly setting trends again. 😆

 

13 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Now I have mower envy 

15 hours ago, devpool said:

This would be an even worse move than just drafting OT outright. 

Slay is old, literally no other CB on the roster is proven at their position besides bradberry coming off a terrible season and is also old.

CJGJ has never played a full season (and is a far better nickel anyway), Blankenship gets hurt a lot as well and Sydney brown isn't coming back from injury until maybe halfway through the season. They can upgrade at every single position in the back 7, not one of them is safe from replacement this season except Slay being the only competent corner last season.

I'm not arguing whether they do these things or not, they probably will because this FO thinks they're god's gift to football and the smartest people in the room at all times. I'm saying if they do these things they're setting themselves up for failure. The two seasons in recent years that they brought in quality players to the back 7 they went to the Super Bowl. It's right there, they've already done it, to act like they never invest in the back 7 just simply isn't correct.

I would think the mindset is we are stuck with Slay and Bradberry next season and we know they can play. We like Ringo and Ricks and want to see them get more snaps.  There is a succession plan there (even if it's not the same principle as the OL) and equally, the Birds inability to draft CBs and DBs up high stands out.  It's not an org priority, and I'd not be a contrarian to point out that how many Rd 1 CBs actually work out?

Regardless, I'd go there as the more you spend on deep diving CBs, the easier it becomes to find the right one.

15 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

I'm not convinced AJ Brown is here long term, so a WR or TE weapon in the pass game wouldn't shock me; more likely in Round 2 than 1.  I think for the Eagles, positional value hierarchy order is QB, EDGE, OL, DT, WR, TE, CB ...... (long pause) ..... RB, S, LB -- then P/K, LS, etc. 

As for 2024, where the Eagles are in the current roster's life cycle I think they'll be prioritizing OL, EDGE, CB at #22, 50 and 53.  It will depend how the board falls, of course. 

I do find it interesting they've had significant interest in Edgerrin Cooper.  I don't think he's on their radar at #22, but if he's still unexpectedly on the board at #50 or close then they may grab him. 

I'd do a jig if they drafted a LB at 50.  Talent at that position drops quickly from the higher rounds, so makes sense to go there for me.  I suspect it's a due diligence thing in case he drops to the late 2nd/3rd round. Chance of happening is 25% at best. Because as you say....

TE is another need especially as it's Goedert and Albert O who has done sweet fa.  Reduces the chance of CB, LB or S going high and it's just more sign posting of what they will do in the draft. OL, DL,WR and TE as a priority.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

A holy Thursday Justin Simmons signing is just what God intended. This could be the day. 

12 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Isn't Speights a Philly kid anyway?  Bring back all the Philly kids 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

Solak loves him. One thing I completely forgot about him that they mentioned is he had to retire because of a neck injury and then unretired when he found out he was able to play again. So some teams will certainly medically red flag him. Even though the neck thing was way back in 2020 I think.

33 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Solak loves him. One thing I completely forgot about him that they mentioned is he had to retire because of a neck injury and then unretired when he found out he was able to play again. So some teams will certainly medically red flag him. Even though the neck thing was way back in 2020 I think.

DK played a less physical position, didn't have to medically retire, and fell all the way down to the late 2nd due to concerns about his neck. A free fall is possible.

Howie, correctly, would take Latu at 22.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

A holy Thursday Justin Simmons signing is just what God intended. This could be the day. 

Thou shalt duly receive thee blessings on a Good Friday my child. I crosseth my fingerseth.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

Because of the neck, I would take Chop Robinson instead.  Similar bend and flaws but not the injury risk and probably available without any trade up.

52 minutes ago, RLC said:

Howie, correctly, would take Latu at 22.

There will be viable options there including Cooper DeJean, whom I value due to secondary flex alongside CJ. I still hope he trades back for a second and third.

10 minutes ago, Eagz said:

There will be viable options there including Cooper DeJean, whom I value due to secondary flex alongside CJ. I still hope he trades back for a second and third.

I too like Cooper DeJean.

The Eagles have more than enough DE/OLB/Edge  at this point.

2 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

I would think the mindset is we are stuck with Slay and Bradberry next season and we know they can play. We like Ringo and Ricks and want to see them get more snaps.  There is a succession plan there (even if it's not the same principle as the OL) and equally, the Birds inability to draft CBs and DBs up high stands out.  It's not an org priority, and I'd not be a contrarian to point out that how many Rd 1 CBs actually work out?

Regardless, I'd go there as the more you spend on deep diving CBs, the easier it becomes to find the right one.

I'd do a jig if they drafted a LB at 50.  Talent at that position drops quickly from the higher rounds, so makes sense to go there for me.  I suspect it's a due diligence thing in case he drops to the late 2nd/3rd round. Chance of happening is 25% at best. Because as you say....

TE is another need especially as it's Goedert and Albert O who has done sweet fa.  Reduces the chance of CB, LB or S going high and it's just more sign posting of what they will do in the draft. OL, DL,WR and TE as a priority.

Bradberry and slay could both be gone next season, Ringo is a 4th round pick and ricks is a UDFA. That succession plan is horrible.

As for successful round 1 corners, here are some of the top corners in the league right now and their draft round:

Sauce Gardner: Rd 1

Patrick Surtain II: Rd 1

Jaire Alexander: Rd 1

Marshon Lattimore: Rd 1

Denzel Ward: Rd 1

Marlon Humphrey: Rd 1

Jaycee Horn: Rd 1

AJ Terrell: Rd 1

Tredavious White: Rd 1

Darius Slay: Rd 2

Trevon Diggs: Rd 2

Jaylon Johnson: Rd 2

Xavien Howard: Rd 2

Ljarius Sneed: Rd 4

Tariq Woolen: Rd 5

Charvarius Ward: UDFA

16 of some of the highly ranked corners and only 3 of them were not a 1/2 round pick, and 9 of them were 1st round picks. I think first round corners work out pretty well.

There is no excuse for them just throwing late round picks at corner, it would be like drafting all of your QBs late because Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. You're going to have some great corners who aren't drafted in the first, but it's not a common thing.

You get more value in TE after the first round:

Hockenson: Rd 1

Njoku: Rd 1

Pitts: Rd 1

Goeddert: Rd 2

Laporta: Rd 2

Kelce: Rd 3

Andrews: Rd 3

Kittle: Rd 5

There is no objective or statistical reason for them to not go CB early, they just think theyre smarter than everyone which is why their top 2 corners came from elsewhere and they've developed one good corner in over a decade (Mills, and you can argue if he even counts)

I have optimism for Ringo's future based on how he played in 2023 in very limited action, but I have next to no hope for Ricks and Ringo and the rest. Even a guy like Rodgers, has been off a year and wasn't exactly a star before then.

The Eagles have gone years with the taking low risk swings at low cost corners route and really not a single one has worked out as any long term solution.

The corner problem is one they need to solve for a while. Kinda like they solved WR with Brown and Smith. Get two young CBs who can grow together and put that problem to bed so they don't need a yearly fix up.

At this point, my guess is the pick is either Tyler Guyton or Cooper DeJean.

For Guyton:Top 30 visit, Lane replacement, probably would go higher in a weaker OT class. I would hate this; would rather they do a mild trade up for Latham or Fautanu. Would be a weird fit at guard, so another annoyingly long succession plan on the OL (despite Howie saying recently they need the young guys to play).

For DeJean: Top 30 visit, love the versatility, potential game changer. Across from Ringo long-term, that's a harder group to attack for heavy YAC/screen teams.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I have optimism for Ringo's future based on how he played in 2023 in very limited action, but I have next to no hope for Ricks and Ringo and the rest. Even a guy like Rodgers, has been off a year and wasn't exactly a star before then.

The Eagles have gone years with the taking low risk swings at low cost corners route and really not a single one has worked out as any long term solution.

The corner problem is one they need to solve for a while. Kinda like they solved WR with Brown and Smith. Get two young CBs who can grow together and put that problem to bed so they don't need a yearly fix up.

From the way Zach Berman talks it really sounds like the Eagles are waiting out a trade for Surtain or Horn

Solak loves Fautanu and thinks he will be a guard in the NFL, but thinks he could be great at tackle too. First I've heard that projection.

If they are able to deal Reddick, then I think Chop Robinson makes a lot of sense.  With BG and Swift on their way out next year, they will need some youth at DE.  

CB, DE, or OT in round 1. Anything else is malpractice. 

5 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

CB, DE, or OT in round 1. Anything else is malpractice. 

Knowing the organizational philosophy of building on the lines, I would expect OL or DL with CB being a distant third unless the prospect at CB is significantly better than the line prospects available.