In terms of the draft, I think you have to look at where your young talent is distributed.  I interpret young talent as being a starter under 28 and more than 1 year left under contract.  The Eagles would currently have:

Offense: Hurts (QB), Barkley (RB), AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith (WR), Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen (?) (OL) -- 8 guys out of 11 starters. 

OT, TE, WR3 not included

Defense: Davis, Carter, Williams (DT), Josh Sweat (DE), Nolan Smith, Bryce Huff (EDGE), Dean (LB) -- is that 6 guys out of 11 starters?

SS, FS, CB, CB, NCB -- somebody help me.  Is there anyone in the secondary under 28, a starter, and under contract through 2025?  Sydney Brown .... ACL?

 

Seems like the Eagles have to put some strong investment into the secondary.  Back 7 in general.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

In terms of the draft, I think you have to look at where your young talent is distributed.  I interpret young talent as being a starter under 28 and more than 1 year left under contract.  The Eagles would currently have:

Offense: Hurts (QB), Barkley (RB), AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith (WR), Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen (?) (OL) -- 8 guys out of 11 starters. 

OT, TE, WR3 not included

Defense: Davis, Carter, Williams (DT), Josh Sweat (DE), Nolan Smith, Bryce Huff (EDGE), Dean (LB) -- is that 6 guys out of 11 starters?

SS, FS, CB, CB, NCB -- somebody help me.  Is there anyone in the secondary under 28, a starter, and under contract through 2025?  Sydney Brown .... ACL?

 

Seems like the Eagles have to put some strong investment into the secondary.  Back 7 in general.

CJGJ

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

CJGJ

Thanks.  Figured I was missing someone.  I think this season he is a starter at safety with Brown on PUP.  That leaves LB, CB, CB ... and NCB.  Lots of CB needs, and a LB for sure.

40 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I have optimism for Ringo's future based on how he played in 2023 in very limited action, but I have next to no hope for Ricks and Ringo and the rest. Even a guy like Rodgers, has been off a year and wasn't exactly a star before then.

The Eagles have gone years with the taking low risk swings at low cost corners route and really not a single one has worked out as any long term solution.

The corner problem is one they need to solve for a while. Kinda like they solved WR with Brown and Smith. Get two young CBs who can grow together and put that problem to bed so they don't need a yearly fix up.

Ringo had an average PFF last year.

Ricks had a terrible PFF last year.

the Eagles, overall, had a whole lot of CBs with bad/terrible PFFs last year.

The Eagles should spend a first round pick on a CB who should have an above average PFF this year.   I like Cooper DeJean. 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Thanks.  Figured I was missing someone.  I think this season he is a starter at safety with Brown on PUP.  That leaves LB, CB, CB ... and NCB.  Lots of CB needs, and a LB for sure.

Also 28 isn't a one size fits all number for determining if someone is young talent. 28 is young for a QB, o-line, etc but pretty old for a RB as an example. 

On 3/26/2024 at 7:56 PM, Random Reglar said:

right now, the Eagles are spending a lot of money on edge rushers.   There are 3 rushers for 2 starting spots.  Either something will be different with the defense,  or one of the expensive edge rushers will go,  or the Eagles are spending too much money on edge rushers.

The "something will be different with the defense" could be to use the OLB edge rushers as off ball LBs,  or otherwise pass rush from between the edges.  

4th option is using the LBs - OLB, ILB,  basically the same size guys - on offense as run blockers.   The run blockers at WR and RB were bad last year. Less likely option.

 

On 3/26/2024 at 8:44 PM, Random Reglar said:

If you look at the mock drafts that people are doing here this year,  you will find a lot of people who have OL in the 1st round or 2nd round.

If the Eagles were to do that,  where would that person play? 

Let's say Steen was the RG.  And he was good.  The Eagles would have Good+ starters at all 5 positions.   And a first rounder waiting for what?  Lane to retire?  And then the Eagles have a bunch of fans here clamoring for Lane to retire because why is a 1st round pick sitting foreever.

The Eagles could fill their OL room with combine winners who were drafted on day 3 or udfas.   Eagles fans would not be clamoring for the day 3 players to play.   But Eagles fans want valuable assets to spend on a position where no assets need to be spent.  

If Lane retired, and no quality RT was on the roster,  the Eagles could simply draft in the first round a Right Tackle.  He might not be great at the beginning of the year, but he'd become good.  Or,  they could take that money they were spending on Lane and sign an expensive and good Right Tackle.   There is no reason why a first round draft pick really needs to be on the Eagles right now,  waiting for Lane to retire.   Unless they're planning on using him as a blocking TE until Lane needs replaced.

If the Eagles are drafting an OL in the first round,  they're probably drafting a player who can start at RG and move to RT.   A first round Right Tackle should in many cases be able to start.   So,   you have some sort of competition week 1 at RG.  Let's say Steen.  Then maybe first round draft pick takes over midseason.  Then Steen becomes swing tackle.  Maybe first round pick becomes swing tackle, and stays swing tackle (and blocking TE if it's on the resume and maybe even if not) and Steen stays at RB. 

I like the idea of fully stocked OL room, but I like Tylan Grable (2 days,  Big 12 pro day) UCF,   Like Lane,  QB in HS,  TE early college,  OT to finish.  Day 3. Combine winner. No expectations for him to take someones spot.  How about him, and another one like him,  mostly in that he's day 3 and there are no expectation for him to take someones spot,   just strong backups like there is a strong starting ol.

Has Lane really taken a mentorship role over Tyler Guyton (OK)?   It might be a great honor for Lane to be able to pick his replacement,  but if I was Lane,  I'd rather get some TDs.  Let Lane take the snap on the Shove and run for the TD, or throw or catch a pass.

Somewhat interesting.    Both Tylan Grable and Tyler Guyton have similar names,  similar resumes.   Both were TEs in college.  Both transferred. Guyton is slightly bigger and slightly worse combine.  And this one I just found out.

Both were Honorable Mention All Big 12.   That's pretty similar. Apples to Apples.   Guyton is currently at 28 on mock draft database.  Grable is currently at 265.

 

19 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

No,  I do like running QBs. 

Running QBs are BEST!

If he was a LT,  I would want the Eagles to draft him at LT.  I prefer the LT with the HS QB on the resume.

Tylan Grable.

1) HS QB
2) Blocking TE for a short time in college
3) college Honorable Mention all Big 12 OT.

It really shouldn't be all that confusing. 

I take 6'6 306 pound Tylan Grable,  who can play QB,  and do innovative stuff with him. 

I'd like the roster to be filled with running QBs.  I don't want the QB room to be filled with LTs,  unless that LT was at one point a running QB.   The idea is to get running QBs on the roster.

Tyree Jackson is one of the players who I was hyping as a TE before he ever played TE,  when he was sitting at home waiting for a job.  

I would think that Tyree Jackson and Joe Milton are similar.  If Joe Milton is sitting at home, I might say "how about Joe Milton as a TE",   but that would happen after Joe Milton is unemployed.   Logan Thomas was a QB bouncing around on practice squads,  and I was hyping him as a TE, and then he switched to TE, and things worked out well for him,  compared to the rest of the QB draft class.   Been in the NFL the longest.

A team could go - Joe Milton is a backup QB and a project TE.   I'd rather have Joe Milton on the roster instead of McKee and Grier.  And Milton has the athleticism to do extra things,  and a cannon arm for Hail Mary time. 

He don't have any actual experience that I know of doing anything but QB.     Some QBs who become something else -  Terrelle Pryor - become great at the new thing quickly - 1 year of practice at WR for Pryor,  the next year,  1000 yard WR.

I do think pretty much any great athlete can do the QB stuff I want them to do,  but what I want those great athletes to do is not wearing the green dot and throwing a lot of forward passes.   Maybe get under center and plow forward or pitch back to Jalen.   So, it's QB,  but not QB.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Ringo had an average PFF last year.

Ricks had a terrible PFF last year.

the Eagles, overall, had a whole lot of CBs with bad/terrible PFFs last year.

The Eagles should spend a first round pick on a CB who should have an above average PFF this year.   I like Cooper DeJean. 

7 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Also 28 isn't a one size fits all number for determining if someone is young talent. 28 is young for a QB, o-line, etc but pretty old for a RB as an example. 

Sounds like we're screwed with our newly acquired RB

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Thanks.  Figured I was missing someone.  I think this season he is a starter at safety with Brown on PUP.  That leaves LB, CB, CB ... and NCB.  Lots of CB needs, and a LB for sure.

The Eagles had average ILBs last year.  And since last year,  the Eagles have brought in more LBs. 

The CBs are, on average,  bad.   The LBs are average,  and fairly plentiful. 

By and large,  the Eagles have a good roster across the board,  and the Eagles could be "fine" if they were to trade all their 2024 draft picks for 2025 and later draft picks.

The Eagles seem to be acting, though,  like a pretty large bucket of bad or terrible CBs means that they're good there.  They are not.  However,  it's not clear exactly what to do when the best CB is slightly above average and everyone else is below average,  and the room is pretty full with bad/terrible.  I've been saying to add the closest to great you can get in the draft. 

Rumors circulating that Embiid may make his return tomorrow night.

49 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Ringo had an average PFF last year.

Ricks had a terrible PFF last year.

the Eagles, overall, had a whole lot of CBs with bad/terrible PFFs last year.

The Eagles should spend a first round pick on a CB who should have an above average PFF this year.   I like Cooper DeJean. 

I don't usually like to speak for everyone, but I will here. Will you please STFU about PFF already? Either you're a troll or completely obtuse. PFF has their own evaluation of players. It isn't reality nor is it gospel. You keep mentioning it like they're the 10 commandments. No one cares about PFF.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't usually like to speak for everyone, but I will here. Will you please STFU about PFF already? Either you're a troll or completely obtuse. PFF has their own evaluation of players. It isn't reality nor is it gospel. You keep mentioning it like they're the 10 commandments. No one cares about PFF.

No

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't usually like to speak for everyone, but I will here. Will you please STFU about PFF  stop quoting people I have on ignore already? Either you're he's a troll or completely obtuse. PFF has their own evaluation of players. It isn't reality nor is it gospel. You guys keep mentioning it quoting these trolls like they're the 10 commandments. No one cares about PFF   what these trolls think.

 

2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Looks like Landon Dickerson was way overpaid then 🙂

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

 

Amen!

I guess the Blog always needs someone to argue with instead of simply skipping over posts or using ignore. 

 

27 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Rumors circulating that Embiid may make his return tomorrow night.

I think theyve run out of time for me to get excited about the post-season.

He missed too much time. Team stinks too bad. Still no word on a Melton or Covington return.

Team hasnt played together in how long? Bunch of guys have never played with Embiid yet.

And, its very unlikely he will be in shape. And also unlikely he will be at full health unincumbered by pain, stiffness, swelling, etc. Its Embiid and he always has that stuff going on.

Its looking like a 1st round exit with, or without him.

31 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Rumors circulating that Embiid may make his return tomorrow night.

 

I’ve been out of pocket for a few days so I’m getting caught up on the interviews at the league meetings. Sirianni didn’t even mention Steen when talking about right guard? My lord. Literally everything is pointing to the Eagles not seeing him as a guard. 

15 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Looks like Landon Dickerson was way overpaid then 🙂

Devonta Smith might just be a camp body

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve been out of pocket for a few days so I’m getting caught up on the interviews at the league meetings. Sirianni didn’t even mention Steen when talking about right guard? My lord. Literally everything is pointing to the Eagles not seeing him as a guard. 

I think they drafted him as a Driscoll replacement. A guy they never viewed as a surefire starter who maybe could be one with Stoutland's tutelage, but mainly insurance in case they have an injury. I think they could've found better ways to address that than pick 65, but I digress. One of those 2nd round picks or that 4th rounder will be used on an OL. I'd be stunned it it wasn't. I think the Eagles starting RG in 2024 will be a rookie. Christian Mahogany or Brandon Coleman are two they interviewed early in the process. Eagles interviewed Jalen Carter early last year too. Might've been the first guy they met with last year. Or the Eagles were the first team he met with. One of the two, I forget. They usually interview guys early they really like.

My issue with the Eagles drafting mistakes are far more the logic than the evaluations.

 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

It seems like another tampering investigation. More forfeitted draft picks, and maxing out a 35 year old injury prone player.