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41 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I would've rather had Zaccheaus than Campbell.

Sounds like someone who doesn't believe in PFF numbers.

Maybe you don't like PFF numbers because the PFF numbers tell you that the players you like suck.

OZ - PFF - 51.8
52.5   - pass
44.9 - run blocking

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45 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

All the talks about RG.  An OT to develop and replace Johnson should be one of the priorities, IMHO.  An early pick is likely, if the team wants a quality one.  It looks like Steen is considered as OG, more than OT.  Even then, guys don't think he is a sure thing to claim the G position.  Then the team is targeting a good number of OGs in the draft.  Is it a smoke or real intention?  

The Eagles lost 2 RGs.   One moved to Center,  one left.   I would think the Eagles would be bringing in a new RG.   The Eagles need a new RG (starter or backup) and a new swing tackle.

When Lane retires (he's signed through the 2027 season) the Eagles will figure it out then.   Not a bad idea to have better backups than worse backups. 

 

4 hours ago, devpool said:

Bradberry and slay could both be gone next season, Ringo is a 4th round pick and ricks is a UDFA. That succession plan is horrible.

As for successful round 1 corners, here are some of the top corners in the league right now and their draft round:

Sauce Gardner: Rd 1

Patrick Surtain II: Rd 1

Jaire Alexander: Rd 1

Marshon Lattimore: Rd 1

Denzel Ward: Rd 1

Marlon Humphrey: Rd 1

Jaycee Horn: Rd 1

AJ Terrell: Rd 1

Tredavious White: Rd 1

Darius Slay: Rd 2

Trevon Diggs: Rd 2

Jaylon Johnson: Rd 2

Xavien Howard: Rd 2

Ljarius Sneed: Rd 4

Tariq Woolen: Rd 5

Charvarius Ward: UDFA

16 of some of the highly ranked corners and only 3 of them were not a 1/2 round pick, and 9 of them were 1st round picks. I think first round corners work out pretty well.

There is no excuse for them just throwing late round picks at corner, it would be like drafting all of your QBs late because Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. You're going to have some great corners who aren't drafted in the first, but it's not a common thing.

You get more value in TE after the first round:

Hockenson: Rd 1

Njoku: Rd 1

Pitts: Rd 1

Goeddert: Rd 2

Laporta: Rd 2

Kelce: Rd 3

Andrews: Rd 3

Kittle: Rd 5

There is no objective or statistical reason for them to not go CB early, they just think theyre smarter than everyone which is why their top 2 corners came from elsewhere and they've developed one good corner in over a decade (Mills, and you can argue if he even counts)

And there are a bunch of 1st/2nd round CBs bust too - Greedy Williams, Dee Milliner Justin Gilbert, Deandre Baker, Adoree Jackson, Desmond Trufant, etc. I'd love the Birds to go there, but they seem to favour a veteran who they have pro history to review for vs. a rookie. I'd have drafted a TE a year or two back so they can develop; Goedert never feels like a player who is healthy for a period of time.

What I want and what I think they will do, are 2 different things.  The Top 30 visits are a great lead for what the team will do high up after that pick of Dillard.

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

 

"Rees Lightning" chose to step away from a poor Welsh national team and try the NFL, because why not? He has a lot of physical tools and the financial side of the NFL will be an attraction (even on the PS) as the WRU are nigh on broke and rugby players have a low ceiling for earnings.

And if it goes wrong, he can go back to rugby and step into a team tomorrow. It's interesting to see him not be subject to the draft, where Mailiata was.

53 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I definitely foresee a WR in their first 4 picks.

3 picks*

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IMO, Howie would be reluctant to go CB in the first round because of scouting uncertainty.  He's stated that it's difficult to scout safeties.  I can't imaging CBs being that much different.

Focusing on OL and DL in early rounds has been pretty fruitful lately.

Look for OT in round 1 and then CB, Edge, etc. on Day 2.

Yes, that is a big reason why I want a couple more defensive players added in free agency or trade. CB and another Safety(Simmons?). So many people think the Eagles are going all defense in the draft and I don't think so. Based on the strengths of the draft and their needs, I actually think 3 of their first 4 picks could be on offense.

This isn't a strong off ball LB draft, and isn't a great safety class, and the Eagles don't value those positions as much as some others anyway. Barring Cooper falling to 50 to the Eagles(and depending on who's available they may not even take him there) I think OT, OG, WR, CB in whatever order could very well be their first 4 picks. And this defense still needs so much work.

An unfortunate slip of the tongue, or not?

 

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1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The problem with having 2 stud WR's (plus everything else on O) is if you don't draft a #3 guy, you are going to be in a continual cycle of signing either washed up veterans or guys to 1 year deals who won't want to come back after being ignored on offense all year. 

"The problem with having 2 stud WR's"

It's an inconvenience that every other team would love to have.

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

IMO, Howie would be reluctant to go CB in the first round because of scouting uncertainty.  He's stated that it's difficult to scout safeties.  I can't imaging CBs being that much different.

Focusing on OL and DL in early rounds has been pretty fruitful lately.

Look for OT in round 1 and then CB, Edge, etc. on Day 2.

Not sure they will look at CB in Day 2 - maybe Day 3, if someone drops a little. Feels like they want to chuck many low cost darts or vets at that position.  I'd be interested  to see if they trade for a CB in and around the draft.  I suspect next year will see some movement at CB

16 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

An unfortunate slip of the tongue, or not?

 

He wouldn't have any inside information.  I'm sure the Commanders brass have told him they'd love to draft Daniels -- doesn't mean they will, because thy might love Maye or McCarthy or someone else as well.  Although I'd put it at 90%, I'm not positive CHI will draft Caleb Williams either.  Early on, there was some chatter he'd told the Bears he wasn't going to play there.  A CHI-WAS 1/2 swap isn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

He wouldn't have any inside information.  I'm sure the Commanders brass have told him they'd love to draft Daniels -- doesn't mean they will, because thy might love Maye or McCarthy or someone else as well.  Although I'd put it at 90%, I'm not positive CHI will draft Caleb Williams either.  Early on, there was some chatter he'd told the Bears he wasn't going to play there.  A CHI-WAS 1/2 swap isn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

Which makes it an odd statement to make.  I suppose the next question to ask is, who does Kelly have a coaching connection with, and in what team?

I'm not entirely sold on Williams. A lot of talent, but unsure if he has that work ethic that a Hurts has  The Bears have a quietly hard decision to make

29 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

"The problem with having 2 stud WR's"

It's an inconvenience that every other team would love to have.

Yup.

Pay Devonta. If anything Goedert should be the odd man out. 2025 is the first year we get cap relief by trading or cutting Goedert. His 2025 base salary is so low that he could fit any team.

I think Howie drafts Trotter Jr. just to appease the fans/narrative and poke fun at not drafting LBers. But I think he reaches to do so in the 2nd.

8 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Which makes it an odd statement to make.  I suppose the next question to ask is, who does Kelly have a coaching connection with, and in what team?

I'm not entirely sold on Williams. A lot of talent, but unsure if he has that work ethic that a Hurts has  The Bears have a quietly hard decision to make

I doubt either Poles or Eberflus is secure enough in their positions to go to the McCaskey family and tell them they want a different QB.  They're almost compelled to draft Williams and try to make it work.  If they bypass him and he plays well somewhere else, they'll be quickly out of work.

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I doubt either Poles or Eberflus is secure enough in their positions to go to the McCaskey family and tell them they want a different QB.  They're almost compelled to draft Williams and try to make it work.  If they bypass him and he plays well somewhere else, they'll be quickly out of work.

And that is why the Bears remain a popcorn eating franchise to watch.

35 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I think Howie drafts Trotter Jr. just to appease the fans/narrative and poke fun at not drafting LBers. But I think he reaches to do so in the 2nd.

That doesn't sound like Howie at all. He's more likely to take 0 LBs in the draft to spite us all.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

"The problem with having 2 stud WR's"

It's an inconvenience that every other team would love to have.

Sure. No one’s saying otherwise. Just that there are inherent, minor problems with having that luxury like being an attractive spot for free agent receivers. No one seems to like the Parker/Campbell additions but that’s the type of WR’s you have to realistically expect. 

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

He wouldn't have any inside information.  I'm sure the Commanders brass have told him they'd love to draft Daniels -- doesn't mean they will, because thy might love Maye or McCarthy or someone else as well.  Although I'd put it at 90%, I'm not positive CHI will draft Caleb Williams either.  Early on, there was some chatter he'd told the Bears he wasn't going to play there.  A CHI-WAS 1/2 swap isn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

I’m still of the mind that Caleb’s reputation precedes him at a level where the #1 overall pick is far more valuable than the player. Trade it

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

On to the last Philly Special podcast, Solak and Danny Kelly said the same thing. Stoutland was gushing over Fautanu.

Fautanu won't get to 22. He could get to 18 as long as the Saints/Seahawks duck him. 

46 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sure. No one’s saying otherwise. Just that there are inherent, minor problems with having that luxury like being an attractive spot for free agent receivers. No one seems to like the Parker/Campbell additions but that’s the type of WR’s you have to realistically expect. 

It's been so long since we've had receivers worth a damn that I'm fine with that :lol:

 

2 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

IMO, Howie would be reluctant to go CB in the first round because of scouting uncertainty.  He's stated that it's difficult to scout safeties.  I can't imaging CBs being that much different.

Focusing on OL and DL in early rounds has been pretty fruitful lately.

Look for OT in round 1 and then CB, Edge, etc. on Day 2.

I don’t disagree, it’s kinda what we always do. High pick on lineman’s, just not sure I can stomach the first pick being a Olineman who’s a backup. Secondary needs help. 

You can already hear the day 1 press conference where Howie talks about Guyton learning from Lane Johnson. 

1 hour ago, thedanone82 said:

That doesn't sound like Howie at all. He's more likely to take 0 LBs in the draft to spite us all.

It's hilarious to think Howie considers fans when drafting.  

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