Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

A POSSIBLE 2nd round pick.   It's a 3rd... until the pieces fall into place for the 2nd.   He could get hurt in TC, and never play a down this season.   Who knows?

Yea plus he has to hit both qualifiers of playing time AND 10 sacks for the pick to jump up. Lots of variables in that.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

If Bryce Huff isn't the ascending stud talent the Eagles expect him to be, then Howie should be fired. He never will be, but he should be. Especially if Reddick goes on to continue his production of a double digit sack guy for the coming few years.

And if they draft an edge in round 1 it will be infuriating. That will mean they used their best pick and their top free agent signing to fill a hole they created themselves. That's horrible roster building. And people wonder why the defense always sucks.

Nah, this is hyperbolic overreaction.

It’s not Huff vs Reddick.

It’s Huff, $10M in cap space, and a potential 2nd round pick bs Reddick. Huff could be a complete flop and the trade could still make sense.

And Huff isn’t paid as a stud. Huff is paid as a good starter.

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

7 minutes ago, TEW said:

High time preference is a sign of stupidity…  

Definitely immaturity!

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This wasn't a 'good' deal.  This was what happens when you back yourself into a corner.  A 2026 3rd rounder, that could become a 2nd rounder.. is equivalent to a 2025 4th rounder, that could become a 3rd.   Or a 2024 5th rounders, that could become a 4th.   

Using time value of money on future deals is a market inefficiency that we're talking advantage of. We're doing it THIS year because of the Saints trade.

Always trade for future picks because people they're undervalued by GMs who don't have the job security that Howie does.

But like.. why? I hate this so much. DE is definitely in play in the 1st round now

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I think that's the opposite of horrible roster building to sign a young ascending player to a deal that could be very good value for the Eagles (like the deal they signed Reddick and Hargrave to) and also drafting a a young player on a rookie deal that it would be to sign Reddick to a new deal to pay $30M per year for a guy turning 30 in September.

Every year there are going to be players on your roster somewhere approaching 30. If every time a player approaches that age, you don't want to pay them, you're going to spend your time perpetually filling holes, and the immediate needs won't be filled.

This defense right now on paper is terrible. They have question marks all over the place. With Reddick and Cox gone, they lost their two best defensive players from 2023. And they have dire needs at corner and other areas of the team, but if they spend a first round pick on an edge that's one less pick they can use to actually address an immediate need. You have to balance building for now and the future. Can't neglect the "now" aspect, especially in a championship window. They now created a need at edge. So they now need: edge, CB, LB, Safety, OG, WR. How are they going to fill all these holes?

Maybe this is galaxy brained, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Howie preferred the 2026 pick to 2025. Maybe it was the only way to get a potential 2 (which we will not get with the Jets’ edge rush depth). Rodgers turns 42 during the 2025 season. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Very likely but it does make you wonder why not just keep your draft picks and sign Huff 

Yea fair…but I think Jets just lost the bidding war & didn’t have the cap to compete, plus other priorities. A lot of Jets beat/fans seemed like it was very possible they were losing Huff before FA started. Jets seemed to be going after Clowney recently, once he signed with Carolina this happened.
 

Im not trying to defend the trade, I just don’t believe Jets wanted Huff to walk. This feels like a "crap we need an Edge still” and they pivoted to Reddick

By the way, shame on the Eagles pushing back a bonus they are paying anyway just to wait to announce the trade in the middle of Phillies opening day. That’s spiteful. 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They liked Nakobe Dean too, how'd that work out?

Apples to oranges.  The Eagles left Dean on the board at their second round pick to select Cam Jurgens.  When Dean was still on the board at their 3rd round pick they selected him, without a trade-up.

Nolan Smith was a first round pick 

1 minute ago, justwinbaby said:

But like.. why? I hate this so much. DE is definitely in play in the 1st round now

I think the opposite. I don’t see them touching DE in first 2 rounds

8 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Considering this past season + the last 15 years I’m going to say the Jets are just dumb. 

Maybe Huff would rather play for the good Eagles than the bad Jets.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe this is galaxy brained, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Howie preferred the 2026 pick to 2025. Maybe it was the only way to get a potential 2 (which we will not get with the Jets’ edge rush depth). Rodgers turns 42 during the 2025 season. 

I think the Jets will have a QB succession plan. Wilson haunted them.

6 minutes ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

Of all the good moves Howie made this offseason, I think this is a bad one. Time will tell.

Time always tells.  I'm bummed to see him go, but equally happy we didn't give a 30 year old player a huge contract.

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

I think the Jets will have a QB succession plan. Wilson haunted them.

Thank you.  That’s the funniest thing I’ve read this month.

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

I think the Jets will have a QB succession plan. Wilson haunted them.

They do have a plan. Jordan Love in 15 years. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a fun one.   Here's another one.

"I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today. " - Wimpy.

This wasn't a 'good' deal.  This was what happens when you back yourself into a corner.  A 2026 3rd rounder, that could become a 2nd rounder.. is equivalent to a 2025 4th rounder, that could become a 3rd.   Or a 2024 5th rounders, that could become a 4th.    That's not a great deal by any measure.  This trade being 'good' comes down 100% to what Bryce Huff does here.   If he exceeds his numbers from last year while he's here, this is a good trade.   If, on the other hand, Huff regresses to his mean of his career, aka matching what he did his first 3 years in the league, then this is a horrific trade.  

 

The Jets got a good player, who will make plays for them immediately.   We have to hope that the Eagles also got that in Huff.  But, we don't know what Huff will do in a bigger role.   We can hope things turn out well with both moves, but these moves are forever linked.

We HOPE Reddick has a good year in 2024, elevating our 2026 pick to a second. We HOPE Reddick falls off in 2025 along with the Jets and we get a high second in 2026. We get room this year for Simmons (HOPEfully) without blowing through our cap space.

I also think Fangio doesn't think Reddick fits what he wants to do very well.

I HOPE I'm right about this.

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I think the Jets will have a QB succession plan. Wilson haunted them.

Doesn’t mean it will be a good one. 

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They liked Nakobe Dean too, how'd that work out?

Too early to tell.

1 minute ago, just relax said:

We HOPE Reddick has a good year in 2024, elevating our 2026 pick to a second. We HOPE Reddick falls off in 2025 along with the Jets and we get a high second in 2026. We get room this year for Simmons (HOPEfully) without blowing through our cap space.

I also think Fangio doesn't think Reddick fits what he wants to do very well.

I HOPE I'm right about this.

We don’t get room on the cap this year 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

They do have a plan. Jordan Love in 15 years. 

Very dry humor.  Perfect.

6 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I think the opposite. I don’t see them touching DE in first 2 rounds

I guess if they're really high on Baun producing a lot? Huff is a projection with more fulltime snaps, Smith has to prove a lot, BG is like 50 years old and will play about 10 a game. They just have no proven players on the edge not that a 1st rounder will change that. Reddick was that dude. 

I somehow left out Sweat but that doesn't make me feel that much better

Hate the value.  Hate losing arguably our best player on the defense.  Now they will go an use the 1st rounder to replace him.  

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Every year there are going to be players on your roster somewhere approaching 30. If every time a player approaches that age, you don't want to pay them, you're going to spend your time perpetually filling holes, and the immediate needs won't be filled.

This defense right now on paper is terrible. They have question marks all over the place. With Reddick and Cox gone, they lost their two best defensive players from 2023. And they have dire needs at corner and other areas of the team, but if they spend a first round pick on an edge that's one less pick they can use to actually address an immediate need. You have to balance building for now and the future. Can't neglect the "now" aspect, especially in a championship window. They now created a need at edge. So they now need: edge, CB, LB, Safety, OG, WR. How are they going to fill all these holes?

 

Thata just the nature of the NFL.  You are going to spend your time perpetually filling holes.  Unless it's QB or offensive line it doesn't make much sense to give out top dollar money to any other position when the players in in their 30s.

The defense was already terrible.  They had to rip the bandaid off with Reddick woth him wanting a new deal.  I saw this coming last summer and posted about it.  It was inevitable.  The only real disappointment is that they weren't able to grt more for him.  But as I said a few sentences ago the defense was already bad last season.  It's still going through a complete revamp/rebuild and there is an obvious youth movement taking place with that.  You just have to hope that the major upgrade at DC will result in the actual development of that young talent that the Eagles are going to be counting on defensively. 

I'd rather the Eagles be able to afford to give new deals to guys like Dickerson (done), DeVonta, Mailata (coming up soon) and AJ (also coming soon) then have to potentially move on from one of those guys in the coming years because they were forces to give $30M per year to a guy who is turning 30 and we likely already got the beat out of him as a player that he has to offer.

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

We HOPE Reddick has a good year in 2024, elevating our 2026 pick to a second. We HOPE Reddick falls off in 2025 along with the Jets and we get a high second in 2026. We get room this year for Simmons (HOPEfully) without blowing through our cap space.

I also think Fangio doesn't think Reddick fits what he wants to do very well.

I HOPE I'm right about this.

I thought people were saying of Reddick and Sweat that Reddick fit Fangio's defense better