8 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

67% or 10 sacks. If there ever was a guy who was a lock for 10 sacks though….

How do you figure?   Is he impervious to injury?  Is he not going to be playing half the games he's in on that terrible Meadowlands turf? 

And... looking at the Jets' defensive front now, who are you going to double team and focus your pass protection around?   

10 sacks seems like a big number for him going to the Jets.   He might hit it, but to think its a 'lock' is overly optimistic.  Remember, Aaron Rodgers played 2 snaps last year for the Jets.  It's a 3rd in my mind... until he hits those targets 67% and 10 sacks.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Reddick was injured

People get upset when Eagles keep old players that aren't playing well

But have fun with people being unhappy about the trade and enjoying everyone's reactions. Weird thing to love but do you

What's your excuse for Reddick over the last 6 games of the season when he wasn't injured and he had a whopping 2.5 sacks. Reddick's entire career minus one outlier year is 10-12 sacks which Huff showed he can do in a fraction of the snaps that Reddick has gotten.

I can see a high likelihood of DE being our 1st round pick now. Thought we could get by on at least a restructure and let him go to FA next year. Doubt Howie would trade him for basically an equivalent of a 3rd round comp pick if his hands weren't tied.

The bottom line is the NFL did not value Reddick like we hoped and it probably wasn’t a great idea to keep Reddick here by playing hard ball. His replacement was already signed via FA, so the writing was on the wall. If the Eagles are right about Huff, then it’s a pretty good deal.

I don’t mind waiting on draft picks because it seems they are far too undervalued, although waiting two years definitely stings. 

Huff for 3s year + 2026 3rd + 8M/Y in cap space > Reddick at age 30, 31 and 32 seasons. 

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

His cap number for 2024 drops by 1mm and he is now zero on 2025 instead of almost 15mm. So the net cap savings is about 16mm. 
 

Still not a fan at all. 
 

Edit: since we are paying the roster bonus, 2024 is probably a wash and we just freeing up 2025. Had we kept Reddick and paid his salary, we would have had the same cap in 2024 and the dead cap in 2025. His 2025 dead cap accelerates to 2024 but is offset by the Jets taking his salary. So all the relief is 2025, but there wouldn’t be 14mm of rollover if we kept him and paid his salary. 

I assumed had he stayed they would end up restructuring and opening more space this year. But in the event they left it as is, you are correct. 

52 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This offseason sucks.

We were not resigning him so we would have a "possible" 3rd round comp pick. However that is only "possible" It could have been a worst pick. So in the end we get a better 3rd round pick and even the possibility of it being a 2nd if he meets the expectations which hes meet over the past few years. 

If he drops off we will thank the Jets for taking him and giving us a 3rd rounder that would have been a late comp pick. If this was a 2025 pick not many would be complaining. Its what we thought he should get. I don't mind this trade cause in the end we were losing him no matter what cause he is not worth the $ he wants. 

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That is really the only thing that makes sense.  I do remember Reddick being a real problem on the sideline in one of the games at the end of the year. Maybe he ended up being poison in the locker room.  Clearly something was very wrong with the chemistry over the last six or seven games.

What was that?   I don't recall it at all.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

The bottom line is the NFL did not value Reddick like we hoped and it probably wasn’t a great idea to keep Reddick here by playing hard ball. His replacement was already signed via FA, so the writing was on the wall. If the Eagles are right about Huff, then it’s a pretty good deal.

I don’t mind waiting on draft picks because it seems they are far too undervalued, although waiting two years definitely stings. 

The consolation too is whether it’s 2nd or 3rd, Jets will be bad by then & still looking for a QB, Saleh & Douglas will be gone, & I imagine that pick will be very high in either round

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

The bottom line is the NFL did not value Reddick like we hoped and it probably wasn’t a great idea to keep Reddick here by playing hard ball. His replacement was already signed via FA, so the writing was on the wall. If the Eagles are right about Huff, then it’s a pretty good deal.

I don’t mind waiting on draft picks because it seems they are far too undervalued, although waiting two years definitely stings. 

If the Eagles are right about Huff and Nolan Smith then this makes a lot more sense.  That remains to be seen, however.

Its fair to say that the DEs ended the season badly in 2023. No discipline in the run game, out for themselves, so change was going to happen.  Trading for a pick in 2026 is odd, but does give Howie more ammunition to trade a pick to move up or down, as is his wont.  And some cap relief next year.

Don't like it, but don't exactly hate it. Just meh

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I assumed had he stayed they would end up restructuring and opening more space this year. But in the event they left it as is, you are correct. 

And had they not extended him, the 2024 cap savings would have added to the 2025 dead cap, pushing it way above 15. If they had converted his base to a signing bonus and saved ~9mm, that would hit 2025. 

1 minute ago, Dwide Schrude said:

The consolation too is whether it’s 2nd or 3rd, Jets will be bad by then & still looking for a QB, Saleh & Douglas will be gone, & I imagine that pick will be very high in either round

I have absolutely zero hope of that pick being a 2. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Huff for 3s year + 2026 3rd + 8M/Y in cap space > Reddick at age 30, 31 and 32 seasons. 

Maybe, but I think that's a simplistic way of looking at it. There is value in going for it presently in a Super Bowl window. Reddick made the Eagles objectively better for 2024. If you're willing to have a lesser chance to win a Lombardi in 2024 for a possibly better chance in 2025, 2026 then fine, but I don't think that is some clear cut decision. I always think there is value in capitalizing in the now. Every year is weighted differently when you make trades in the moment.

IMO, Reddick's value to winning a SB in 2024 is > than the 2026 3rd + the 2025 cap savings. Because I think he significantly improves 2024's chances.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

The bottom line is the NFL did not value Reddick like we hoped and it probably wasn’t a great idea to keep Reddick here by playing hard ball. His replacement was already signed via FA, so the writing was on the wall. If the Eagles are right about Huff, then it’s a pretty good deal.

I don’t mind waiting on draft picks because it seems they are far too undervalued, although waiting two years definitely stings. 

The NFL doesn't value Reddick, period. He will be 30 in September and he is on his 4th team in 5 seasons. The Eagles got him without breaking the bank when they signed him in free agency. There is a reason for this, which is that while he is a good player he is nowhere as good as some people on this board think he is or based on one outlier season in 7 seasons. I still think the trade sucks  based on value but the idea to NOT give Reddick a huge extension at 30 and get younger at the position was the right one in my opinion.

Without looking into it, this seems to be a horrible trade. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What was that?   I don't recall it at all.

That one time Sirianni was yelling at Reddick and Washburn on the sideline. It was towards the end of the season, I forget which game. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I have absolutely zero hope of that pick being a 2. 

I wouldn't say zero but I would agree that the pick will be a 3 more likely than not.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That one time Sirianni was yelling at Reddick and Washburn on the sideline. It was towards the end of the season, I forget which game. 

That doesn't make Reddick the problem in my eyes.   Sirianni was as big a problem as anyone last year.   Why is he back?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That one time Sirianni was yelling at Reddick and Washburn on the sideline. It was towards the end of the season, I forget which game. 

It was the lone game they actually won, against the Giants lol

They were in the process of blowing a big lead ….. but the Giants were the Giants 

 

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Um, lol, no.

I don't think it makes them significantly worse or better. It just makes them younger. I love how people just ignore the fact that Huff had one less sack than Reddick last season in a fraction of the snaps and act like because Smith didn't do much as a rookie he is a lock to not be good I his second season. They will be fine at edge rusher.

And what about Huff 2020-2022. 7.5 sacks 
Reddick, 39.5

Huff is not the player Reddick is. If anything. this year was more of an anomaly for Huff. Reddick is a proven and consistent sack artist. We just got worse on the field with this trade, now way around it. 
 

Nice to see Castellanos picking up where he left off last year.    Flailing at the slider off the plate.

I think it's clear the Eagles are very high on Bryce Huff, Nolan Smith and Zach Baun, yes even Baun and quite possibly Julian Okwara. 

I hate the compensation. I'd almost rather the pick be a real 3rd round pick in 2024 or 2025, rather than a conditional pick, even if that condition is a 2nd. I have a hard time seeing it become a 2nd with the conditions set too. They can't do anything with this pick to help them this year or even next year since you can't trade conditional picks. They'd rather have nothing from Reddick for 2 years. 

I was all for trading Reddick but this stinks.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Nice to see Castellanos picking up where he left off last year.    Flailing at the slider off the plate.

I really dislike him as a player