Reddick hasn't signed a new deal yet. If he gets 30m from the Jets ok, but if he signs a 2 year extension at 18m per season I'm going to be none too happy.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Reddick hasn't signed a new deal yet. If he gets 30m from the Jets ok, but if he signs a 2 year extension at 18m per season I'm going to be none too happy.

at that point you probably have to blame Reddick for whatever he did wrong here to make the team want to trade him. 

1 hour ago, NYEagle said:

So I have a cap question to the Capaleers on here....You have Kelce and Cox retiring, Bradberry and now Reddick.....I know (or think) you get 2 Post June 1st designations.......between these 4......what is the best way to use these designations not only to create cap space this year, but in '25?  

If I understand, we almost have to use them on Cox and Kelce and that would free up around 3mm this year getting them off the books.  Do we keep Bradberry on the team and just cut him June 1 or just keep him?  And now with the Reddick trade, I don't think we'd have any other designations to use???

I don't care how it happens but I don't want to have to watch Bradberry play for the Eagles again.

Tired of seeing him get toasted all the time.  

11 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

When the Eagles got Huff, there was uniform enthusiastic praise for the great new sacker the Eagles got and genius Howie.  No one was saying "projection".  No one was saying "one year wonder" or "risk".  It was clear that the Eagles were not spending $5 M a year on this new player.  They were paying Reddick money.

Only rare geniuses, according to science, are able to see into the future, and notice that the Eagles typically don't pay star money to 2 players playing the same position.  At the time,  it was thought that Huff could pay opposite of Reddick, and Sweat might go.  But then Sweat re did his deal,  so he stayed. And Reddick went.

Yes,  for those people who are looking for reasons to attack the Eagles,  if Reddick does better than Huff, that's a legit point of attack.  Like if some other team drafts a player at the same position,  slightly after, and he does better than the guy you picked.   Reddick v Huff is an apples to apples comparison throughout 2024, 2025.  

People are acting like their shocked by this trade,  when it was pretty much as expected.  Did we think we were going to get a 2?  Mostly, no.  We got a 3.  which was what most people expected, and a few were disappointed with that outcome.  Think they'd prefer a 2, but expect a 3. 

Wrong. I was saying projection and risk before they even signed him. 

It is interesting the Eagles have seemingly planned ahead at defensive line, but if you look at CB, the area they value second most on defense, if you look ahead to 2025 it's really just Ringo, Ricks, and that's it.

And we have no idea how either of those two are going to look like in 2024. If one or both of them look bad with playing time, that cupboard could be completely bare. Makes me wonder if the Eagles could double up at corner. Either in the draft or acquire one via trade and then also draft one high. Allowing them to have a very easy transition at the position in 2025. For example say they trade for Jaycee Horn or someone and draft McKinstry.

You could mix and match in 2024 and leave the second outside spot and the slot spot to open competition and whoever wins, wins. Then in 2025 when Slay and Bradberry are both gone, Horn/Ringo and Mckinstry/Ringo slide right into the two outside spots and the train is already rolling.

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

What's the difference? Is a private workout at a location on campus?

Top 30 visit the player visits NovaCare. Private workout the team flies out to the campus. 

18 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Reddick hasn't signed a new deal yet. If he gets 30m from the Jets ok, but if he signs a 2 year extension at 18m per season I'm going to be none too happy.

I’m about 90% sure the Eagles were right around that number with him.  Just a guess based off a few reports I read. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Reddick doesn't count in this equation anymore.  His money for 2025 accelerates up to 2024, so he has no cost for 2025.  He's essentially a net zero change for 2024 (due to the $1M bonus he got) - and costs about $300k more in 2024, but no cost in 2025.

So, I think it comes down to Kelce, Cox and Bradberry (if he's cut/traded).  

Got it, and according to Over the Cap, we had only about 10mm in cap space in '25, not....after the Reddick trade close to 14mm so a slight increase.

Reddick wore down last season, turns 30, that's a red flag. Doesn't mean he won't still be productive, but 600 snaps, not 850, which means he's Huff but 4 years older.

It was one thing to stick with Cox and Kelce, who are elite players still playing at a high level at reasonable rates in their 30s, but Reddick is a speed rusher who'll fall off rapidly when he loses that explosive first step. And he hasn't shown the ability to drop into coverage, which means he's more DE than 3-4 OLB, but undersized at DE.

Starting to get real tired of the 97.5 app sending news notifications of things that aren't news.  I don't need a notification for some new Tyrone Johnson mock draft.

18 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reddick wore down last season, turns 30, that's a red flag. Doesn't mean he won't still be productive, but 600 snaps, not 850, which means he's Huff but 4 years older.

It was one thing to stick with Cox and Kelce, who are elite players still playing at a high level at reasonable rates in their 30s, but Reddick is a speed rusher who'll fall off rapidly when he loses that explosive first step. And he hasn't shown the ability to drop into coverage, which means he's more DE than 3-4 OLB, but undersized at DE.

We don't know if he wore down. People have just assumed that. Maybe he was just part of a toxic situation on defense where they changed coordinators midway through the season.

Trying to think off the top of my head. Who's the last player before Reddick under 30 the Eagles either traded or cut who was still playing at a really high level?

Maybe I'm just drawing a blank, but this seems like something that happened more often in the Banner era than the Howie era. Howie has usually kept his guys. I'm not including guys who have left in free agency, I'm talking only cut or traded.

Were the last ones DeSean Jackson and LeSean McCoy?

What assertions can we even make about individual* players on defense last year? They all pretty much spiraled at once.

*Except for Bradberry. Get him the hell off my team.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Reddick hasn't signed a new deal yet. If he gets 30m from the Jets ok, but if he signs a 2 year extension at 18m per season I'm going to be none too happy.

I think if he wanted 18 they would've done 18. I imagine he wanted 20m or more, but I agree at 18m it would be a pretty stupid move to have traded him

Reddick priced himself out. Reddick wasn't the good soldier. So he's out. Sweat worked with the Eagles, so he stays. I presume Reddick only cares about the bag and not winning. Which we really don't want here, regardless of talent. Got paid  pretty fairly IMO for his services thus far, and with a good 2024 may have stuck around a winning culture at a slight increase for $18M-20M per year. He will need to rebound and have a 2022 type year to get anywhere close to the money he's looking for, which sounds like $25M or so. I blame the Eagles 0% here for this situation. He put them in a corner and already whispered after YEAR 1 that he wants more. Just ill timing by he and his representation.

He's a one tricked pony. Im pretty sure he won't get to 67% of the snaps this year with their depth. So it will be a 3rd rounder, hopefully a high one! He's definitely not in any better leveraging position now to get the bag. He may have screwed himself. Which I kinda like to see when people get too greedy. I just can't sympathize. Also, had no room to talk, after a historic collapse by the defense/team last year (add to that the bitter taste in your mouth performance by defense in the Superbowl). If he had been injured and had only five sacks last year, would Howie have asked for his money back? These players need to earn their keep before mouthing off about wanting more money in public. Huge turnoff as a fan. Howie did what he could, under the circumstances and got ahead of it with the Huff signing. Reddick played hardball and now he's stuck on the Jets. 😆 

38 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Trying to think off the top of my head. Who's the last player before Reddick under 30 the Eagles either traded or cut who was still playing at a really high level?

Maybe I'm just drawing a blank, but this seems like something that happened more often in the Banner era than the Howie era. Howie has usually kept his guys. I'm not including guys who have left in free agency, I'm talking only cut or traded.

Were the last ones DeSean Jackson and LeSean McCoy?

 

I wouldn't really classify Reddick as an under 30 traded/cut when he is going to be 30 a couple weeks into the season.  Technically he is under 30 but his playing days going forward he is for all intents and purposes 30.  He only has two games left in his career where he will be under 30.

 

But yeah it has to be DeSean and LeSean.  DeSean was cut right after he turned 27 and LeSean was traded a few months before he was turning 27.  There is of course Carson Wentz who was traded a couple months after he turned 28 but not sure that counts since he was demanding a trade. 

 

 

24 minutes ago, devpool said:

I think if he wanted 18 they would've done 18. I imagine he wanted 20m or more, but I agree at 18m it would be a pretty stupid move to have traded him

I remember a tweet somewhere saying Eagles were willing to give him 21-22/yr and he wanted 25/yr

2 hours ago, schuy7 said:

Some of you are throwing Reddick to the side way too easily IMO. 

Maybe, but some people think he's Nick Bosa or Micah Parsons too.

7 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Maybe, but some people think he's Nick Bosa or Micah Parsons too.

 

He is though production wise.  The unfortunate issue however is that he is a full contract older than Bosa (26) and Parsons (24).  If the Eagles weren't so stacked with young talent that they will want to keep in house for a long time then it would be a no brainer to keep Reddick with a new large deal even given his age.  

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He is though production wise.  The unfortunate issue however is that he is a full contract older than Bosa (26) and Parsons (24).  If the Eagles weren't so stacked with young talent that they will want to keep in house for a long time then it would be a no brainer to keep Reddick with a new large deal even given his age.  

No he isn't, nor does he have the same impact as an all around player and most importantly as you mentioned Parsons and Bosa are just entering their prime and Reddick will be 30 in September which is massive factor. As for Production, take out one outlier season in 2023 when pretty much everyone on the Eagles defense had a career year and Reddick is a consistent 11-12 sack guy. Bosa had 15.5 in 2021 and 18.5 in 2022 (16 games) and only saw a dip last season because he held out. Parsons has gone 13, 13.5, and 14.5 and is better against the run and a significantly more impactful player since he lines up all over the place and defenses have to make an entire game plan around stopping him. Reddick is a very good  edge rusher but he is not an elite pass player like a Bosa, Watt, Parsons, Garrett, Crosby, etc as some want to make him out to be.

Kempski's best and most correct ever take:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-mailbag-haason-reddick-better-pass-rusher-than-nick-bosa/

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He is though production wise.  The unfortunate issue however is that he is a full contract older than Bosa (26) and Parsons (24).  If the Eagles weren't so stacked with young talent that they will want to keep in house for a long time then it would be a no brainer to keep Reddick with a new large deal even given his age.  

Reddick doesn’t play the run well. Micah is a full blown offball linebacker along with being a pass rusher, and Bosa had 48 freaking QB hits in 2022. Hes not close to on their levels

Not that it matters much, but here’s how ESPN has our depth chart right now:

 

 

I would love to watch Noah Elliss play LB at 346 pounds.

Howie gets paid the BIG MONEY to project ahead. In 1-2 years, Reddick has a real shot of becoming Robert Quinn in his last days as an Eagle, where he clearly lost a step. While Huff has a good shot becoming Haasan Redick at his prime. Next year, it's close to a wash on the stats. All good, for less guaranteed money. Howie's got to get this defense younger and follow the Chiefs template. I suspect he will load up on defense this draft, where this becomes a much faster and younger defense than past years. They were simply listless, haggard and old last year.

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Kempski's best and most correct ever take:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-mailbag-haason-reddick-better-pass-rusher-than-nick-bosa/

Didn't read it, link not working. Sadly for this hot take a pesky little thing called facts (Bosa 44.5 sacks last three seasons, Reddick 38) doesn't agree. Oh, and not to mention there's this little thing called context where one guy is 26 and the other is about to be 30. Considering this entire Reddick situation/trade was a result of him demanding a huge money extension his age and projecting where he might be over the next three seasons is kind of a big factor.