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12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's a 2025 pick so it's REALLY a 3rd round pick, right??

Yup! And it's even less than that since they gave the Texans 2 extra late round picks. So it's a late 3rd/early 4th and totally not a 2nd. 

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10 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

And the replacement Huff is good against the run? Nope he's not 

I doubt Huff plays 800+ snaps in all packages.

Smith is more of a 3-4 OLB than a rush end and I expect will be used in that role.

They're also going to find PT for Baun and Burks. Whomever looks most comfortable in coverage will play SOLB in base 3-4 packages, with Smith at WOLB.

Even when they line up in a 5-2, odds are one or both OLBs will drop into coverage on a regular basis.

Williams - Davis - Carter at DL. Rotate in Ojoma, Booker and Ellis/Tuip

Then Sweat at LDE - Carter - Williams - Huff in 4-2-5, rotating in Graham, etc.

Some of this will be determined in TC, and the draft may supply someone who'll push their way into a rotation.

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

With the way that Houston is trending... it is actually going to be very close to an ACTUAL 3rd round pick... This pick could very well be in the 60s in 2025.   I had the Texans as a division winner, and a participant in the 2nd round of the playoffs next year before this trade.   IMO, this trade by itself makes them a likely AFC CG participant if they can land a favorable matchup in the 2nd round.   That points their pick at no higher than 61.   And they can still add some pieces in the draft.    The top 4 in the AFC now are: Chiefs, Ravens, Texans and Dolphins, in that order, IMO.   And a matchup of Houston at Baltimore... I could easily see Houston winning that matchup.

 

Not to mention that the Bills are giving up a pick THIS year and Diggs to get the delayed gratification of the 2nd in 2025... this isn't a great trade by the Bills at all.   They just got significantly worse for the 2024 season.

If overthecap is correct it’s also $31 mil in dead money and 3.2 mil cap hit as well. Add on Buffalo’s current wr corps is Curtis Samuel, shakir and Mack hollins. 

I’d have felt a heck of a lot better about Buffalo’s return and not basically wasting a prime year of Allen’s career if they got Hollywood brown in FA  (which was a bargain) or dealt for Keenan Allen when he was available as compared to Samuel and hollins and then deal diggs. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

It's Minnesotas pick

My mistake.

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And yet... having this amount of dead cap space is what Howie WANTS... he does it more than any other GM by a wide margin.   So, that alone isn't going to cut it for me as a reason to trade away your best defensive player.   Howie created all that dead cap space, so what you are saying by positing this as a rationale for why it makes sense, actually says that Howie forced himself into having to make this move due to his choice of how he structures contracts and overly relies on pushing costs to the future and creates void years and dead cap space he then has to tap dance around.   

It is a problem of his own making.

It didn't start until he jettisoned Wentz.  It's been snowballing ever since.  

I am so curious to what Reddick's next contract looks like. He's trending to be a pass rush specialist for most NFL teams in their schemes. He will get paid well, but not what he thinks. And not for the huge guarantees that other top notch rushers get. I believe he will be jumping around teams, for 1 year at a time after this year. $20M at most! And that's if he has a great year this year. Also, do not think he's  the team player most in here think he is. He's out for the bag!

 

Buffalo picks 28. A trade up with us would cost Buffalo's 2025 2nd (traditional chart). Would do that in a heart beat

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Keep chasing those sacks in 2024 Haason!

12 minutes ago, paco said:

It didn't start until he jettisoned Wentz.  It's been snowballing ever since.  

He had been building up void years and dead cap before that.   After that it has really gotten extreme to where it is now.    I'm not sure its related to Wentz... or related to trying to keep and pay the likes of Cox, Kelce, etc.   Personally, I think they held on to a couple of those vets too long... and paid too much.   Kelce being an exception to that.   But, Cox was getting more than he was producing over the last few years.  Same with Graham.  Both are great Eagles and have been huge 'culture' pieces.   But the culture last year wasn't saved by their presence.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

 

:ph34r: Saquon Barkley :ph34r:

34 minutes ago, RLC said:

Great trade for Buffalo. Diggs was flat out bad in the 2nd half of last year.

IMO, I feel like he quit on them.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He had been building up void years and dead cap before that.   After that it has really gotten extreme to where it is now.    I'm not sure its related to Wentz... or related to trying to keep and pay the likes of Cox, Kelce, etc.   Personally, I think they held on to a couple of those vets too long... and paid too much.   Kelce being an exception to that.   But, Cox was getting more than he was producing over the last few years.  Same with Graham.  Both are great Eagles and have been huge 'culture' pieces.   But the culture last year wasn't saved by their presence.

This is why I wish OTC and Spotrac kept historical info.  I feel like there may have been one or two in there but nothing outside what everyone else does.  Like the original 1 year deal Alshon did I thought was straight up, but who knows, maybe he did have 4 void years.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He had been building up void years and dead cap before that.   After that it has really gotten extreme to where it is now.    I'm not sure its related to Wentz... or related to trying to keep and pay the likes of Cox, Kelce, etc.   Personally, I think they held on to a couple of those vets too long... and paid too much.   Kelce being an exception to that.   But, Cox was getting more than he was producing over the last few years.  Same with Graham.  Both are great Eagles and have been huge 'culture' pieces.   But the culture last year wasn't saved by their presence.

Jake Rosenbergs fault 

Lol

Galaxy-brain thought: easier for Reddick to get sacks vs. Buffalo without Diggs!

 

Bills in trouble 

Easily take Texans

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

But that’s not why Reddick was traded, and I certainly wouldn’t call a third round pick, even a delayed one, peanuts. 

Right at this very moment. That pick is worth peanuts if peanuts were a 3rd day pick :)

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lol

When I sent schmoopie the tweet of the trade, I followed it up with "Fade Josh Allen"

 

6 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Bills in trouble 

Our old friend Mack Hollins is listed as the starting WR!  

Yes, I would say they are in trouble. 

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Xavier Legette feels like a Buffalo Bill.

25 minutes ago, paco said:

This is why I wish OTC and Spotrac kept historical info.  I feel like there may have been one or two in there but nothing outside what everyone else does.  Like the original 1 year deal Alshon did I thought was straight up, but who knows, maybe he did have 4 void years.

Kelce is ~$16.4mm in 2025 dead cap, Cox is $10.1mm and Graham would be $9mm (but guessing they post June 1 his retirement so it will be pushed to 2026 in full). But with $26.5mm for Kelce and Cox to clear the books from their constant extensions, having big dead caps for Reddick and Sweat (another $30mm) would have been a problem. One of them had to go as the bills for extending the core 4 came due. 

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