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18 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Lane is signed through 2026. In 2027 his dead cap charge will be $11.3mm to not be on the team. Just under $4mm of that can be pushed to 2028 if he is a post June 1 release/retirement. So long as he plays the next 2 years, his cap is manageable. If he retired after 2025 and we filed the paperwork after June 1, 2026, he'd be $8.7mm of 2026 dead cap (cap savings of $10.2mm) and 2027 dead cap of $11.3mm. But there's no room left to reduce his cap charges as his salary is already league minimum. 

Nowhere near as bad as i anticipated

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23 minutes ago, TEW said:

It’s a GREAT receiver class. I’d rather draft a guy than give up a big contract and a second round pick for a 30 year old high volume but low yardage receiver.

The draft is a crap shoot. Especially outside of the top 10-15. Not saying they give up the moon and the stars but you’d think they at least try to surround Allen with some more reliable talent. 

 

24 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Lane is signed through 2026. In 2027 his dead cap charge will be $11.3mm to not be on the team. Just under $4mm of that can be pushed to 2028 if he is a post June 1 release/retirement. So long as he plays the next 2 years, his cap is manageable. If he retired after 2025 and we filed the paperwork after June 1, 2026, he'd be $8.7mm of 2026 dead cap (cap savings of $10.2mm) and 2027 dead cap of $11.3mm. But there's no room left to reduce his cap charges as his salary is already league minimum. 

Be careful with this one. This is one of those complicated contracts that those websites can't fully show the inner workings. As it stands today on 4/3/2024 you would be correct, however, read the fine print. 

  • 2024 Option Bonus: $18.79M (3/13/2024)
  • 2025 Option Bonus: $18.745M
  • 2026 Option Bonus: $18.7M
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The contract is designed to effectively end in 2027 with the expectation that Johnson will either retire or be released. The Eagles would carry $16.5 million on the salary cap in 2027 and then defer $22.5 million to 2028.

 

39 minutes ago, TEW said:

It’s a GREAT receiver class. I’d rather draft a guy than give up a big contract and a second round pick for a 30 year old high volume but low yardage receiver.

I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Eagles draft a WR sooner than most people think.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Be careful with this one. This is one of those complicated contracts that those websites can't fully show the inner workings. As it stands today on 4/3/2024 you would be correct, however, read the fine print. 

  • 2024 Option Bonus: $18.79M (3/13/2024)
  • 2025 Option Bonus: $18.745M
  • 2026 Option Bonus: $18.7M

 

Looks like Spotrac and OTC don't agree, so I'm going to try and break this down myself. Pray for me.

The contract had a $18,835,000 singing bonus paid in 2023, and through 2026 $15,668,000 will have hit the cap, leaving $3,167,000 of dead cap. He will have been paid $56,235,000 in option bonuses and the cap will have been charged $28,639,000, leaving $27,596,000 in dead cap. So it appears the total dead cap should be $30,763,000 from his 2023 extension. I don't know if there is money from his last contract as well. 

Seems like no one knows how his contract works, but the "right" number should be $30mm broken up over 2 years.

2 hours ago, paco said:

IMO, I feel like he quit on them.

 

47 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

He’s cooked if you actually watched him last season.

I agree more with Paco. I think Diggs wanted out and made it VERY clear on the field.

Can’t wait to see this Ayuk contract 

How much can we get to move down from 22 to 28?

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can't remember an offseason where every trade compensation sums up as "...that's it?"

The outlier is the Eagles giving up a 3rd for Kenny Pickett 

13 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Eagles draft a WR sooner than most people think.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they took one round 1

Supposedly Albright is a Broncos insider...

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2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

How much can we get to move down from 22 to 28?

22 is 780 points 
28 is 660 points

120 points is roughly equivalent to a late 3rd rounder which Buffalo does not have.  They do have pick 60 though so maybe pick 28 and 60 (960 points) for 22 and 120 (834 points)

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I wouldn’t be shocked if they took one round 1

My thinking on draft picks: Howie likes to fill immediate needs with veterans, and draft guys for contracts that will expire in a year or two.

Free agents in 2025: Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, and Devonte Smith

Howie's gonna pay Devonte.  

We're drafting a DE.

16 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Eagles draft a WR sooner than most people think.

Yup. I could easily see us taking a WR in the second. Maybe even in the first under the right circumstances.

Assuming the OTs and EDGE we like are gone, and we couldn’t find a trade partner, would we really pass on someone like Brian Thomas?

Realistically though, 2nd or 3rd round is what I expect.

Just now, EricAllenPick6 said:

My thinking on draft picks: Howie likes to fill immediate needs with veterans, and draft guys for contracts that will expire in a year or two.

Free agents in 2025: Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, and Devonte Smith

Howie's gonna pay Devonte.  

We're drafting a DE.

DE or OT are the obvious positions, but there is no guarantee a guy they like will be there because those are premium positions that everyone else wants too.

There is a very good chance a WR will be BPA in the first or second round.

Do you pass on Brian Thomas, Adonai Mitchell or Xavier Worthy?

We need a deep threat and we are likely going to use more 3 WR sets this season.

Does a stud deep threat put us over the top? Possibly…

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

DE or OT are the obvious positions, but there is no guarantee a guy they like will be there because those are premium positions that everyone else wants too.

There is a very good chance a WR will be BPA in the first or second round.

Do you pass on Brian Thomas, Adonai Mitchell or Xavier Worthy?

We need a deep threat and we are likely going to use more 3 WR sets this season.

Does a stud deep threat put us over the top? Possibly…

How many freaking weapons do they need to make the offense work? PM just won a SB with a TE and crap at WR. They already have two of the best in the league and a top 10 TE so it boggles my mind. If you gave PM Brown and Smith, he'd never lose a game...meanwhile Hurts is looking at one person every play. 

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This may have been posted earlier, but a nice X thread on Dallas not being good at the cap.

"The only reason the Cowboys are against the cap this year is their reluctance to do contracts early... If they had signed Dak to an extension this offseason, or CeeDee last year, they would have much more room, with more control over future years."

 

I hope Howie uses top 3 picks on defense. Fill in the middle and late rounds for depth with RB, TE, WR & OL. Starters are pretty much established on offense. I am good rolling with Right Guard battle of Steen/Hennessey/Draftee/FA. Gotta give Fangio young horses to work with. If one of those top 3 picks for this year are used for Surtain, would be pleased. A la AJ Brown type trade. Then you make room for 1 year deal with Simmons. And now we are cooking with gas.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How many freaking weapons do they need to make the offense work? PM just won a SB with a TE and crap at WR. They already have two of the best in the league and a top 10 TE so it boggles my mind. If you gave PM Brown and Smith, he'd never lose a game...meanwhile Hurts is looking at one person every play. 

You're drafting for the future, and it's very possible AJ Brown isn't an Eagle after 2024.  Very possible.

9 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

You can try to use archive.org to jump back in time to a page, or use it to take snapshots of pages for it to store.

Here's Alshons pages:

5/14/2017 - https://web.archive.org/web/20170525144136/https://overthecap.com/player/alshon-jeffery/101

9/19/2018 - https://web.archive.org/web/20180919190105/https://overthecap.com/player/alshon-jeffery/101/

1) :worthy: thank you :worthy:

2) Ok, so I didn't misremember that the one year deal had no void years

3) I'm a little surprised the 4 year extension didn't have void years.  But then again when the Carson BS went down, that's when the restructures and void years happened.  That pretty much confirms what I said about cutting wentz kicking this all off.

31 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Eagles draft a WR sooner than most people think.

2nd round I'm thinking but depending on who's there and what other issues we still have 

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This may have been posted earlier, but a nice X thread on Dallas not being good at the cap.

"The only reason the Cowboys are against the cap this year is their reluctance to do contracts early... If they had signed Dak to an extension this offseason, or CeeDee last year, they would have much more room, with more control over future years."

 

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16 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Looks like Spotrac and OTC don't agree, so I'm going to try and break this down myself. Pray for me.

The contract had a $18,835,000 singing bonus paid in 2023, and through 2026 $15,668,000 will have hit the cap, leaving $3,167,000 of dead cap. He will have been paid $56,235,000 in option bonuses and the cap will have been charged $28,639,000, leaving $27,596,000 in dead cap. So it appears the total dead cap should be $30,763,000 from his 2023 extension. I don't know if there is money from his last contract as well. 

Seems like no one knows how his contract works, but the "right" number should be $30mm broken up over 2 years.

I have it a little higher than you. Just those 3 option bonuses would be $33.7M left in dead cap for 2027, plus whatever is left from the 2023 bonus. If it's $3.167M like you have then the dead money left would be $36.89M in 2027. There's also some smaller roster bonuses due which might make up the $39M total OTC says. 

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52 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

You look at their current starters? If Josh Allen was my QB I’d be trying to get him some talent. Every year you have him, the goal should be to win it all 

Maybe it's coincidence, but Josh Allen wasn't Josh Allen until Diggs arrived.

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