3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Wheeling and dealing

That's basically an impossible haul (Hicks is going in RD2), but that would be a HR draft.

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

The Chargers used 3 WRs 72.3% of the time last year.

The bigger question is if we’d utilize a third WR enough to justify taking one in the first round?

I agree it wouldn’t make sense if Moore doesn’t plan on throwing to the third WR. It would probably mean Smith, Brown and Goedert getting fewer looks.

But on the plus side, if you have a speedy 3rd WR who teams have to respect as a viable target every down, I think we could really stress defenses in a way we haven’t seen. It would open up a lot of RAC yardage for Brown and Barkley would see safeties a lot deeper.

But that's not really what he used the majority of the time with Dallas. So I guess it's a good showing that he can adapt at least. I'm not sure if that was a forced one because Chargers didn't have what he required or he wanted to try something different. I'm curious what will be his staple with us

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

That's basically an impossible haul (Hicks is going in RD2), but that would be a HR draft.

Yeah, I have my doubts Suamataia even makes it to 22. I’d be ecstatic with him in the first.

28 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Here’s a question for you guys. Just had a conversation with someone who corrected me when I said 2021 was probably Howie’s best draft since 2012:

Devonta Smith, averaging 1000 yards a season and set eagles receptions record in 2022

Landon Dickerson, 2-time pro bowl LG with Oline flexibility

Milton Williams, good start to his career and IMO would be a starter by now if we weren’t perennially loaded at the position.

Kenneth Gainwell, useful rotational back with 90 first downs in his first 3 years

Zach Mcphearson, still making 53 man rosters in a special teams capacity 

 

His counter was 2018:

Dallas Goedert, pro bowl caliber TE

Jordan Mailata, pro bowl caliber LT

Josh Sweat, evolved into starter in heavy rotation

Avonte Maddox, slot specialist 

and all done with no 1st round pick

 

I think I’m still taking 2021

Just like the context with Goedert and screwing over Dallas in Dallas with Akers trolling Dallas you'd have to account for drafting Smith after soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many failures at WR that it has to add a ton of points in that column too

48 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Oh knock it off.

 

Only 3 weeks until the draft. Draft hype at an all time low.

34 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Here’s a question for you guys. Just had a conversation with someone who corrected me when I said 2021 was probably Howie’s best draft since 2012:

Devonta Smith, averaging 1000 yards a season and set eagles receptions record in 2022

Landon Dickerson, 2-time pro bowl LG with Oline flexibility

Milton Williams, good start to his career and IMO would be a starter by now if we weren’t perennially loaded at the position.

Kenneth Gainwell, useful rotational back with 90 first downs in his first 3 years

Zach Mcphearson, still making 53 man rosters in a special teams capacity 

 

His counter was 2018:

Dallas Goedert, pro bowl caliber TE

Jordan Mailata, pro bowl caliber LT

Josh Sweat, evolved into starter in heavy rotation

Avonte Maddox, slot specialist 

and all done with no 1st round pick

 

I think I’m still taking 2021

I'd push back on the "done with no 1st round pick". They had a first round pick and turned it into Goedert and Maddox. I get they didn't have a first round selection which means he hit later picks which is theoretically harder, but that 1st round pick was pretty vital to the draft class. 

47 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 She literally won Miss Kansas. And I don't care if she had Bobeph's face on that body...with that bank account.

Whatever, nice bodies are a dime a dozen.  She isn't that good looking.

28 minutes ago, Know Life said:

She’s mid AF.

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I’d still hit, though. But only from the back. 😂

 

 

Just now, Freshmilk said:

Whatever, nice bodies are a dime a dozen.  She isn't that good looking.

I'm sure you both pull hotter chicks on the reg out of desperation.

39 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

😆

That's a good one.  

Fitting

19 minutes ago, TEW said:

The Chargers used 3 WRs 72.3% of the time last year.

The bigger question is if we’d utilize a third WR enough to justify taking one in the first round?

I agree it wouldn’t make sense if Moore doesn’t plan on throwing to the third WR. It would probably mean Smith, Brown and Goedert getting fewer looks.

But on the plus side, if you have a speedy 3rd WR who teams have to respect as a viable target every down, I think we could really stress defenses in a way we haven’t seen. It would open up a lot of RAC yardage for Brown and Barkley would see safeties a lot deeper.

McConkey

10 minutes ago, TEW said:

Yeah, I have my doubts Suamataia even makes it to 22. I’d be ecstatic with him in the first.

No way. Far too high for a project

11 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Just like the context with Goedert and screwing over Dallas in Dallas with Akers trolling Dallas you'd have to account for drafting Smith after soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many failures at WR that it has to add a ton of points in that column too

And screwing the giants big time was *chefs kiss*

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Texans have a logjam in their WR room now. 

Diggs, Dell and Collins are probably untouchable.

Noah Brown probably isn't of interest to Howie because he was a FA last month but re-signed with Houston.

Robert Woods is washed and old. If we haven't already signed Parker he might have made some sense but not now.

John Metchie III is the wildcard. It seems like Texans gave up on him already. Next to no NFL production but how much is that due to sitting out his rookie year due to cancer? Still young and if he can be had for cheap and develop he could be plugged into the slot position and is still young. 

Metchie is on his 2nd season coming back from Leukaemia,so a lack of production last season understandable. Not sure how he'd be a trade for, but would kind of fit a Howie punt at the position.

Just now, Outlaw said:

 

I'm sure you both pull hotter chicks on the reg out of desperation.

I'm married so those days are over for me.  But we've all been with our fair share of hot chicks.   That's not unusual.  Her face doesn't do it for me.  No need to have a conniption.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Ehhhhh. They basically said they were wrong letting CJGJ go and Blankenship being a starter for the next few seasons means Brown, a high third-round pick, is a backup. 

Brown is coming off an ACL, probably will start the season on the PUP and eventually be the 3rd S in three S sets.

He'll push for a starting job in 2025.

When was Howie ever finished by the end of March? They'll add veteran depth to the secondary at some point.

Cleveland doesn’t want the Browns to build a dome in their suburbs because Modell moved the previous team to Baltimore. Seriously, thats their reasoning

 

 

9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

No way. Far too high for a project

But what a prospect!

17 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 

I'm sure you both pull hotter chicks on the reg out of desperation.

I said I’d still hit. Why are you picking on me? 😂

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

But what a prospect!

I get the appeal. But cant let that entice you into a big reach 

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

And what does Lane look like for dead cap?

feel like he reworked his deal a dozen times

I mentioned this a while back.  $39M in 2027.

3 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Lane is signed through 2026. In 2027 his dead cap charge will be $11.3mm to not be on the team. Just under $4mm of that can be pushed to 2028 if he is a post June 1 release/retirement. So long as he plays the next 2 years, his cap is manageable. If he retired after 2025 and we filed the paperwork after June 1, 2026, he'd be $8.7mm of 2026 dead cap (cap savings of $10.2mm) and 2027 dead cap of $11.3mm. But there's no room left to reduce his cap charges as his salary is already league minimum. 

Overthecap and Spotrac seem a little divergent on that.  I don't quite understand what overthecap's numbers are showing, but it seems more aligned to the massive number of extensions/reworks he has signed.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

The Chargers used 3 WRs 72.3% of the time last year.

The bigger question is if we’d utilize a third WR enough to justify taking one in the first round?

I agree it wouldn’t make sense if Moore doesn’t plan on throwing to the third WR. It would probably mean Smith, Brown and Goedert getting fewer looks.

But on the plus side, if you have a speedy 3rd WR who teams have to respect as a viable target every down, I think we could really stress defenses in a way we haven’t seen. It would open up a lot of RAC yardage for Brown and Barkley would see safeties a lot deeper.

Real question, what does target 3 look like in this offense after 2024? Goedert will be 30 and has an injury history. To me, he looked less explosive after the catch last season, but maybe he was dealing with some injury.

If Brian Thomas is somehow sitting there at 22, that would be tempting. Still think they'd go OL or CB, but wow.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Only 3 weeks until the draft. Draft hype at an all time low.

I'm with you there. I've never been this uninterested in a draft and I tend to agree with ESP here.