43 minutes ago, TEW said:

He's on a 1 year deal, right?

I have to think we draft a guy to develop for a year. What do you think of Coleman, the OT/OG (probably OG in the NFL) out of TCU?

Seems to have good size and athleticism and we brought him in for a visit.

I like him a lot. In the college semi=final between Michigan and TCU I thought he was the best OL on the field. Hated him at the time. There was a brief exchange earlier regarding Beebe. I like Coleman a lot more. Much more explosive.

@just relaxThoughts on Latham as a RG for 2 years before kicking out to RT when Lane retires? 

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Seems like he isn’t that slow. And do we have guards? 

He isn't that slow.

And NO,  we don't have guards.

But we do have a starting Left Guard,  and a Right Guard is needed.

Beebe is not a Right Guard,  but was a Left Tackle last year,  and a Left Guard the year before.

I would think that someone who played a lot of Right Guard might be a plug and play fit.

I don't like the idea of spending a big pick on a Tackle to replace Lane Johnson in 2027 (in 2024). 

Steen can't be starting Right Guard and Swing Tackle at the same time.  
 

 

20 minutes ago, just relax said:

I like him a lot. In the college semi=final between Michigan and TCU I thought he was the best OL on the field. Hated him at the time. There was a brief exchange earlier regarding Beebe. I like Coleman a lot more. Much more explosive.

I've been putting Coleman in a lot of my mocks also.  Not sure why the mock draft data base doesn't seem to like him.  He's usually had in 3rd-6th round.  He was a top 100 recruit, played well and tested extremely well.

Bo and Zach talked some draft stuff today. I agreed with a lot of Bo's stances.

Bo is against taking Brock Bowers. His take was that for Bowers to be worth a trade up he needs to be one of the 3 best TEs in the NFL on day one or it's a bad pick. He's on the money on that. Because the positional value isn't there.

He said if you're taking an OL in round 1, ideally they are a starting OT for the next 6-10 years. He'd rather take an OT who doesn't have guard versatility than an OT who does have guard versatility if they're an inferior OT prospect. I said as much basically yesterday so I agree 100% there.

He also made a good point in that the words "nasty" scare him when it comes to OL. He said usually scouts use that word when guys aren't as athletic, so they harp on nasty. He said give me a guy with the athleticism and talent, he doesn't care if they drive defenders into the ground after a block. Agree with that as well. Never sacrifice physical ability for nastiness.

He listed Terrion Arnold as his most likely trade up candidate.

They both went through guys they think the Eagles would consider moving up for. Some guys named: Dallas Turner, Brock Bowers(Zach), Olumuyiwa Fashanu(Zach thinks he's the best OT in this class), Terrion Arnold.

46 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Good video. Really cool info on a punter prospect. @just relax youll like hearing him talk about value of nickel CB.

 

Thank you. DeJean or Mikey would make me happy. DeJean's a lot bigger and would be better in run support but Mikey is a player.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Two of the better ones from that network.  Siciliano goes as host, but Brandt and Schrager stay??

James Palmer does a better job that the majority of their other reporters.

I like Kyle Brandt.  He's a TV personality not a reporter.  They are letting Melissa Stark go too. 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Bringing Maddox back seemed inevitable 

League minimum, with incentives for staying healthy.  Anything more than that is an overpay... again.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

actually, not.

the Eagles lost starting RG Cam Jurgens to Center,  and Opeta left in free agency.

At RT,  Lane Johnson is making $18 Million a year through 2026.

Losing 2 RGs seems to indicate a need at RG.

Is the RG being drafted better at RG than Steen?  Steen could be RG, but he can also be Swing Tackle.  RG is the only position on the OL which isn't wrapped up with a good starter for years.

 

Steen and Hennessy will compete at RG along with a day 3 rookie.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I just learned from Brett Kollman that Christian Boyd will do his testing at Cooper DeJean's pro day. Those are two prospects the eagles have their eye on. Big day for eagles coming up on the 8th.

Hopefully their view isn't eclipsed.

43 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

One thing Maddox was great at while he was at Pitt was blitzing from the slot. Never understood why the Eagles didn't take advantage of that.

Because he struggled to tackle in the open field at the NFL level. 

21 minutes ago, RLC said:

@just relaxThoughts on Latham as a RG for 2 years before kicking out to RT when Lane retires? 

Would be an AWESOME pick, but no way he's anywhere close to where they can get him. Probably a top-10 guy. Top-5 if you exclude QBs. Would be a tremendous guard.

22 minutes ago, RLC said:

@just relaxThoughts on Latham as a RG for 2 years before kicking out to RT when Lane retires? 

If he's a RG for 2 years,  people will say "oh, no,  Latham is too good at RG,  the Eagles will need to get a RT"

Like Landon,  who was drafted to be Center of the future.

Just now, just relax said:

Would be an AWESOME pick, but no way he's anywhere close to where they can get him. Probably a top-10 guy. Top-5 if you exclude QBs. Would be a tremendous guard.

I can see a scenario in which he falls to the mid-teens, assuming he's not a Charger/Raider. There's a real path to him falling to 17....

4 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

Give me your most realistic best case scenario if we don't trade and pick at 22, 50, and 53

22- Bo Nix

50- Michael Penix Jr

53- Spencer Rattler

 

QB factory 

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Steen and Hennessy will compete at RG along with a day 3 rookie.

Wildcard here is Kinnard from Chiefs, who didn't look great at tackle, but was gaining ground at guard according to their coaches.

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Bo and Zach talked some draft stuff today. 

Olumuyiwa Fashanu (Zach thinks he's the best OT in this class)

For a guy who professes to love football, Zach desperately needs to take a film class. Fashanu might be great! But there's no way he's OT1 in this class.

Just now, just relax said:

Would be an AWESOME pick, but no way he's anywhere close to where they can get him. Probably a top-10 guy. Top-5 if you exclude QBs. Would be a tremendous guard.

Maybe someone has a video of him in a gas mask that they can publish about 3 hours before the draft starts...   

1 hour ago, TEW said:

Jason Witten is exactly why I WOULDN’T take Bowers OR Smith or any other TE in a similar mold in the first two rounds.

Witten was a FANTASTIC blocker. He was 6’6” 265 pounds. An absolute mismatch against DBs in the run game and was bigger than almost any LB as well. Night and day difference between him and Bowers physically.

Look, the value of a TE is that it’s a difficult matchup in theory. If you bring an extra DB on the field to cover then, you can run the defense into the ground. If you put a LB on him, he’s going to run wild in the passing game.

These smaller TE’s give up a lot of that mismatch advantage in the run game. They're just not going to overwhelm defenders in the run game.

I’m fine with a slot WR/TE hybrid like Bowers, just not in the first round. Those 6’3” 240 lbs receiving specialists are too easy to find on day 3, and TEs rarely have the receiving production to justify their selection in the first round based purely on their passing game contributions.

I think your tunnel vision on measurables has become comical. 

i can teach him to be an average blocker. Dude is a baller and wont shy away. Far easier than teaching a late project to release, read and catch

what he CAN do is be the F that can trap the D in a bad personnel set. Split him out to slot against three backers. Motion him in against nickel. Allows moore to run almost the entire offense from on personnel package, which is hell on a defense

5 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

If he's a RG for 2 years,  people will say "oh, no,  Latham is too good at RG,  the Eagles will need to get a RT"

Like Landon,  who was drafted to be Center of the future.

Ok.  Let's say they decided to move Landon to center.   That leaves a gaping hole at LG.  So, they would need to have found a LG.    Just like they need to figure out RG now that Jurgens is moving to C.   And if they left Jurgens at RG... then they'd need to find a C.   

If you land a stud at one position, having to make a tough choice about whether or not to change that player's position is good problem to have.    

 

Once upon a time, Lane Johnson was drafted to take over at LT for Peters.   Instead, he lined up at RT and has been a stalwart there from Day 1.  They did flip him over to LT for a few games, but very few.   Turns out having the best RT in the NFL is a big time bonus for the team.   Oh well... best laid plans and all that.

I'm not really a Bowers guy.  He's got really good contact balance, but looks a bit smaller than his 243 Combine weight.  Not much of a blocking TE

That should convince all Eagles fans that he's the guy to go get .... 

 

22 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

He also made a good point in that the words "nasty" scare him when it comes to OL. He said usually scouts use that word when guys aren't as athletic, so they harp on nasty. He said give me a guy with the athleticism and talent, he doesn't care if they drive defenders into the ground after a block. Agree with that as well. Never sacrifice physical ability for nastiness.

 

Ehhhhh you lost me there. Plenty of OL have been good with suboptimal athleticism. None have been good with the temperament of Andre Dillard.

40 minutes ago, RLC said:

@just relaxThoughts on Latham as a RG for 2 years before kicking out to RT when Lane retires? 

I'd be fine if he just solidifies RG at a pro bowl type level and then we just draft or sign a RT when the time actually comes. We could possibly have the best pair of guards in the league 

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Ehhhhh you lost me there. Plenty of OL have been good with suboptimal athleticism. None have been good with the temperament of Andre Dillard.

He didn't say they can't be good. He said if he had a preference, he'll choose guys with great physical traits over guys who don't have them.