1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I always wanted the future to be Dillard at LT with Mailata at RT.  But Lane kept it going longer and better than I expected and Dillard ended up sucking.

Many may dismiss your suggestion, but it’s worth a thought experiment.

Mailata is not an all world pass protector.  He’s more of a prototypical RT.  

That's kind of a dated differentiation between LT and RT. The way Ds go after the QB these days, the positions are more similar than in the past. RT needs to be an all world pass protector as much as LT. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The problem with RAS is that ...

it is used as a measure of a person's FOOTBALL ability by some, rather than merely an athletic score, developed by people in an effort to compare players with a single value, rather than focusing on the wider array of information the score is based on, and it has inherent flaws that should under no circumstances by used as a mic drop answer to a question regarding positional suitability for player X, especially when said individual(s) is(are) projecting a player to a different position from the one they have primarily played recently (with few exceptions).

1 hour ago, devpool said:

TJ Edwards was solid but unspectacular, I agree he got more hate than he should have but he wasn't a special talent. But easily would have made the defense better last year, sometimes solid is all you need to keep from being a disaster 

Yeah, I didn't mind not keeping TJ just for the fact that he looked average behind a historically good pass rushing DL. The run defense was terrible until they added Suh/Joseph which was in part of TJ not being able to create plays on his own and would get completely swallowed up.

The problem was that we let him and Kyzir go and then replaced them with nothing.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They consider that Chips pick for the exercise since he was the 2015 draft class. 

This is a significantly more reasonable defense than "Hicks wasn't good". 

Everything good is Howie and everything bad is because of someone else

 

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Everything good is Howie and everything bad is because of someone else

That sums it up about right.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

 

Cooper DeJean is a rock solid 1st round pick. No complaints if we draft him in RD1.

Just now, RLC said:

Cooper DeJean is a rock solid 1st round pick. No complaints if we draft him in RD1.

I don't think anyone would. It would be Howies' first first round DB selection ever lol.

If they take him he better be a lockdown corner. If they passed on one for a hybrid guy who they move around, that isn't first round worthy to me.

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they take him he better be a lockdown corner. If they passed on one for a hybrid guy who they move around, that isn't first round worthy to me.

Slot corner.

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

it is used as a measure of a person's FOOTBALL ability by some, rather than merely an athletic score, developed by people in an effort to compare players with a single value, rather than focusing on the wider array of information the score is based on, and it has inherent flaws that should under no circumstances by used as a mic drop answer to a question regarding positional suitability for player X, especially when said individual(s) is(are) projecting a player to a different position from the one they have primarily played recently (with few exceptions).

I don't think there's a whole lot of reliability to the data as well.  My question is why should a 10 be based on something that's not relative to the position.  It would be a better system if players were measured in terms of how close their measurements are to a hybrid of the top 5 players in the position. 

12 minutes ago, just relax said:

Slot corner.

Modern slot CBs have to play the run, be able to blitz and cover man to man. DeJean can do all 3. You want him near the LOS anyway. DeJean would be an immediate starter in the slot. 

14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they take him he better be a lockdown corner. If they passed on one for a hybrid guy who they move around, that isn't first round worthy to me.

I doubt he is a lockdown corner , part of the reason I'm leaning against drafting him. He'd be a good safety I think with the versatility to play other spots. He is very smart and a hard worker who I don't think would give Vic a hard time, so that may come into play too. 

46 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Everything good is Howie and everything bad is because of someone else

Howie is simply a proxy of Lurie.  

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they take him he better be a lockdown corner. If they passed on one for a hybrid guy who they move around, that isn't first round worthy to me.

Have to agree with this.  DeJean looks like a nickel to me, and those typically aren't worth a first rounder.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Modern slot CBs have to play the run, be able to blitz and cover man to man. DeJean can go all 3. You want him near the LOS anyway. DeJean would be an immediate starter in the slot. 

Exactly.

Im coming around to DeJean playing nickel, or a nickel/safety hybrid role. And I hate to say it because it wrongly will feed in to the narrative that he cant or shouldnt play outside.

Im saying nickel, not because he cant play outside- I think he can play there and do it well. But because of all of the other things he does well. Tackle. Run support. Blitz. Skills that can be better utilized in the slot, or safety. When you look at highlights, so many of them are off of his ability to blitz.

If you put him there and let him play closer to the action, it will boost his production for you. Yes, he can start outside, and cover the best WRs. But inside, he can do that and more. 

Our biggest rival's best offensive playmaker plays 80% of his snaps in the slot.

13 minutes ago, just relax said:

Slot corner.

In that case would rather take Sainristil later.

We’ve spent a lot of first round picks on defense in the last few years and have the worst defense in the nfl to show for it.

 

I thought Khristian Boyd was working out today too.

I also see Jonah Elliss is working out today for scouts.

Anyone see any results for those guys yet?

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

In that case would rather take Sainristil later.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im coming around to DeJean playing nickel, or a nickel/safety hybrid role. And I hate to say it because it wrongly will feed in to the narrative that he cant or shouldnt play outside.

Im saying nickel, not because he cant play outside- I think he can play there and do it well. But because of all of the other things he does well. Tackle. Run support. Blitz. Skills that can be better utilized in the slot, or safety. When you look at highlights, so many of them are off of his ability to blitz.

If you put him there and let him play closer to the action, it will boost his production for you. Yes, he can start outside, and cover the best WRs. But inside, he can do that and more. 

Exactly!

Why remove a player’s ability to impact the game because you miscast him in a position or role?

DeJean’s value is his versatility. So put him in a position to be versatile.