8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

How many low upside, productive non-athletic guys are in this 1st round that we need to be worried about? I dont really feel like they can end up with a Barnett, Smith, or Watkins at pick 22. 

Keon Coleman? Slow, non-dominant college receiver who just caught an abnormal amount of TDs that everyone thinks is a fringe late first guy because he’s tall.

 

Goalline Jalen Reagor

13 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Caleb’s going to show up to the draft in a Prom dress 

I'm gonna say right now, I can see Caleb Williams being a GIGANTIC bust.  You have the physical side of being an NFL QB, and then you have the mental side.  He clearly has the physical makeup, but he does not have the mental toughness.  He was in the stands crying after a loss last season - as an NFL QB for the Bears, he's gonna lose quite a few games.  He's probably going to have his share of bad games.  Does he have the mental toughness to handle the adversity of the NFL?  

34 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Charlie mock on walterfootball

1 Wiggins

2 Adisa Isaac

2 Peyton Wilson

4 Brendan Rice. 

I’d take that - then Wiggins gets attacked non-stop by bubbles/outside zone, AI gets the rookie treatment w/ no PT, Wilson hurts himself immediately and Jerry’s son becomes an inconsistent contested ball WR… and I’m like what happened here?

But yeah, that’s a solid draw.

16 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Keon Coleman? Slow, non-dominant college receiver who just caught an abnormal amount of TDs that everyone thinks is a fringe late first guy because he’s tall.

 

Goalline Jalen Reagor

Sounds like JJAW.

26 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

How many low upside, productive non-athletic guys are in this 1st round that we need to be worried about? I dont really feel like they can end up with a Barnett, Smith, or Watkins at pick 22. 

Rakestraw and the Big Robinson apparently, could go with the flip side with a high upside non-productive athletic guy in the Little Robinson.

7 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Rakestraw and the Big Robinson apparently, could go with the flip side with a high upside non-productive athletic guy in the Little Robinson.

True rakestraw I guess is a possibility. 

Maybe they reach for the less athletic Lassiter in round 1.

Latham is really high on my want list now. He puts our o-line back to, best in the league potential, as he can slide into RG day 1 and solidify things. Comes with elite size and strength and very good movement skills for that position. Going to have to go up pretty high to nab him I'm guessing, around 12,13ish

14 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Hope Darius Robinson has a hot GF, he might need company.

It'll be his mama.

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

True rakestraw I guess is a possibility. 

Maybe they reach for the less athletic Lassiter in round 1.

Gross… you stay put at 22 and they shouldn’t need to reach in this draft.

47 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I'm gonna say right now, I can see Caleb Williams being a GIGANTIC bust.  You have the physical side of being an NFL QB, and then you have the mental side.  He clearly has the physical makeup, but he does not have the mental toughness.  He was in the stands crying after a loss last season - as an NFL QB for the Bears, he's gonna lose quite a few games.  He's probably going to have his share of bad games.  Does he have the mental toughness to handle the adversity of the NFL?  

I think those are different situations though.  I don't remember him crying at Oklahoma or even the season before last at USC after a loss. 

He was probably emotional after those losses because USC wouldn't have a chance to compete for a title and his time in college was coming to an end.

With the Bears he's not expected to win right away.  I don't think he'll be crying after losing games with Chicago, especially his rookie year.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I think those are different situations though.  I don't remember him crying at Oklahoma or even the season before last at USC after a loss. 

He was probably emotional after those losses because USC wouldn't have a chance to compete for a title and his time in college was coming to an end.

With the Bears he's not expected to win right away.  I don't think he'll be crying after losing games with Chicago, especially his rookie year.

Nah, he's...

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

With the Bears he's not expected to win right away.  I don't think he'll be crying after losing games with Chicago, especially his rookie year.

Of course the Bears are not expected to win, and he won't have the pressure.  But, Caleb Williams likely has never been used to losing football games, having a losing season, or not being especially competitive at ANY level.  Some guys can battle through that and be great.  Some guys can't.  His strange antics, to me, suggest that he probably has some maladaptive coping strategies, or perhaps has no coping strategies at all.  We'll see. 

If I'm the Bears, if the Commanders really did offer what they did for that pick, I'd take it in a heartbeat. 

26 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Latham is really high on my want list now. He puts our o-line back to, best in the league potential, as he can slide into RG day 1 and solidify things. Comes with elite size and strength and very good movement skills for that position. Going to have to go up pretty high to nab him I'm guessing, around 12,13ish

Same been pushing him for past few weeks now.  Gives me some Brandon Brooks vibes at RG

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Likely true.   BUT... there is the possibility that they will convince themselves that a certain player is the difference maker, because of their need and not because of the talent in the player.  It has happened before.  

Of course. To every team

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I keep thinking about that comment and it screams... Derek Barnett, Marcus Smith II, and Danny Watkins to me.

Marcus Smith was never that.

31 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Gross… you stay put at 22 and they shouldn’t need to reach in this draft.

I agree.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

Marcus Smith was never that.

He was never a forced pick for need?  I disagree.    He was a forced pick, when they tried to trade out and they whiffed tremendously, meanwhile the guy I was much higher on was sitting right there, and while he was never a full on stud, he was far from a bust too... Trent Murphy.    Of course, Demarcus Lawrence was likely the 'best' pick they could have made there for an edge player.

17 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Of course. To every team

Sure.   But, I don't care about them fooling themselves.  I care about the Eagles PROCESS and when they go 'off-script', they run into trouble.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He was never a forced pick for need?  I disagree.    He was a forced pick, when they tried to trade out and they whiffed tremendously, meanwhile the guy I was much higher on was sitting right there, and while he was never a full on stud, he was far from a bust too... Trent Murphy.    Of course, Demarcus Lawrence was likely the 'best' pick they could have made there for an edge player.

Marcus Smith was a developmental EDGE when he was drafted. Clearly the wrong pick (thanks Chip!), but he was behind Graham/Barwin immediately on the depth chart.

Watkins was drafted to be the immediate RG, but he sucked.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He was never a forced pick for need?  I disagree.    He was a forced pick, when they tried to trade out and they whiffed tremendously, meanwhile the guy I was much higher on was sitting right there, and while he was never a full on stud, he was far from a bust too... Trent Murphy.    Of course, Demarcus Lawrence was likely the 'best' pick they could have made there for an edge player.

That was a bad spot - I figured they had to move one way or the other. Kyle Van Noy in a tradeback was my preferred play.

 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

How many low upside, productive non-athletic guys are in this 1st round that we need to be worried about? I dont really feel like they can end up with a Barnett, Smith, or Watkins at pick 22. 

When was the last time we actually took a low upside, productive non-athletic guy in the first round?

37 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Same been pushing him for past few weeks now.  Gives me some Brandon Brooks vibes at RG

You want to trade up to take a tackle at 12-13 so you can play him at Guard?

3 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

You want to trade up to take a tackle at 12-13 so you can play him at Guard?

Until Lane retires it makes sense.

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

HELL YES! ordering my jersey.