3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

isnt there a way to convert a bunch of that salary in to bonuses? I thought thats how Howie always frees up cap space with re-structures.

He looks like a restructure candidate. 

Probably is. Has 2 years left. His 2025 cap number is $26.5 mil. His 2026 cap number is $41 mil. However I’m guessing at 28 in June next year, i think the time for him to strike on a new deal is likely then. Also i wouldn’t be so sure he doesn’t believe he can get an extension somewhere else if he’s traded and force that if the eagles are noncommittal about an extension 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Agreed.

But if the Eagles determine that keeping him isn’t financially possible or pragmatic, then they need to move on ASAP while we can extract maximum value and replace him in an extremely deep WR class.

ASAP? Yeah... NO.

Just now, TEW said:

Agreed.

But if the Eagles determine that keeping him isn’t financially possible or pragmatic, then they need to move on ASAP while we can extract maximum value and replace him in an extremely deep WR class.

Outside of Harrison I don't think any of the WRs in this class can replace Brown.  Be a good #2 to Smith?  Sure, but Brown is a bona-fide, no doubt alpha-dog #1 WR.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Probably is. Has 2 years left. His 2025 cap number is $26.5 mil. His 2026 cap number is $41 mil. However I’m guessing at 28 in June next year, i think the time for him to strike on a new deal is likely then. Also i wouldn’t be so sure he doesn’t believe he can get an extension somewhere else if he’s traded and force that if the eagles are noncommittal about an extension 

Id see if they can give him a 2 year extension (with the 2nd year being one that is easy to move on from). That signs him for the next 4 years. Convert a bunch of his salary these next 2 years in to guarantees, in the form of bonuses now, plus add a good chunk of added money in year 3. 

Thatll secure his services with good pay days through his year 30 season, and we can look to move on after these next 3 years. Trade or release before that 4th year kicks in.

I’m not advocating moving on from Brown now or in the near future, but I don’t think he’s going to be a No. 1 receiver as he closes in on 30. 

This offense has no excuse to not be top of the league the next couple of seasons barring injury. It's the most loaded on paper we've seen in a very long time, if not ever. They're giving Hurts every opportunity to succeed, so hopefully he can put it together. I thought the new deal they gave him would hamper their ability to add or keep pieces, and thankfully it hasn't. 

5 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Outside of Harrison I don't think any of the WRs in this class can replace Brown.  Be a good #2 to Smith?  Sure, but Brown is a bona-fide, no doubt alpha-dog #1 WR.

yeah we just arent getting high enough to get Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze. 

Burton can be a 1 very much like a slightly thicker Smith, but no one seems to know just how bad his character concerns are.

Youd be rolling the dice with a Legette which really bit the Titans when they thought Burks was that guy.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not advocating moving on from Brown now or in the near future, but I don’t think he’s going to be a No. 1 receiver as he closes in on 30. 

I think you are correct. I want him as long as we can keep him without committing long term.

 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

This offense has no excuse to not be top of the league the next couple of seasons barring injury. It's the most loaded on paper we've seen in a very long time, if not ever. They're giving Hurts every opportunity to succeed, so hopefully he can put it together. I thought the new deal they gave him would hamper their ability to add or keep pieces, and thankfully it hasn't. 

thank Howie. He is elite.

The excuse not to be good is Hurts. And apparently Nick is the scapegoat. 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

 

sounds rather unexciting this year.

It feels very good having 2 great WRs after such a long time of lame performance at the position. Let's enjoy it, we don't know how long it'll last. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id see if they can give him a 2 year extension (with the 2nd year being one that is easy to move on from). That signs him for the next 4 years. Convert a bunch of his salary these next 2 years in to guarantees, in the form of bonuses now, plus add a good chunk of added money in year 3. 

Thatll secure his services with good pay days through his year 30 season, and we can look to move on after these next 3 years. Trade or release before that 4th year kicks in.

Yeah, that’s what I would try to do. I just think this is coming to a head at the end of this season and next off-season. Eagles gonna have to make a decision to do an extension like you laid out or he could be traded. I prefer the extension 

13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thank Howie. He is elite.

The excuse not to be good is Hurts. And apparently Nick is the scapegoat. 

It seems that way for quite a few.

Nick was never hired to be an innovative architect in offensive play design; he was hired as a motivator, teacher, and to manage the locker room.  People seem to think the Reids, Shanahans and McVays grow on trees.  

Just now, Alphagrand said:

It seems that way for quite a few.

Nick was never hired to be an innovative architect in offensive play design; he was hired as a motivator, teacher, and to manage the locker room.  People seem to think the Reids, Shanahans and McVays grow on trees.  

I think the offense will be good with Moore. Hopefully itll be noticeable enough where, if Hurts is evading ghost pressure, and not seeing the open WRs fans will notice the offense is schemed well. 

Hoprfully Hurts just plays really well and we dont have to worry about it either way. But hard to be confident in him after last year.

26 minutes ago, judunno said:

ASAP? Yeah... NO.

2025 is our out. So we should draft a replacement this year and trade him next year.

No reason to go down the road of a holdout when our leverage is gone for 1 or 2 extra years.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It seems that way for quite a few.

Nick was never hired to be an innovative architect in offensive play design; he was hired as a motivator, teacher, and to manage the locker room.  People seem to think the Reids, Shanahans and McVays grow on trees.  

It's also fair to point he did none of those things well last year.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

It's also fair to point he did none of those things well last year.

The players seem to differ.

Not a single thing has come out from anyone on the team. Kelce or Cox who retired, or free agents who went elsewhere. Those are guys who would most likely open up honestly..

Anyone who has spoken on it says they really dont know what went wrong. Some have directly supported him.

27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thank Howie. He is elite.

The excuse not to be good is Hurts. And apparently Nick is the scapegoat. 

I read this and got a stroke.  

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

It's also fair to point he did none of those things well last year.

He did a great job with the locker room, with the possible exception of AJ Brown who should have been told to grow up a bit.

13 minutes ago, TEW said:

2025 is our out. So we should draft a replacement this year and trade him next year.

No reason to go down the road of a holdout when our leverage is gone for 1 or 2 extra years.

Can we get to the season before we talk about dumping one of the best WRs in the league? Can't have nice things in Philly lol.

What's exciting about DeVonta Smith is I don't think we've come close to seeing him reach his potential. He's been the victim of terrible play calling for his skill set. Put him in motion and use him like Puka in LA and he's going to light up the league. Give him room to work. He's dynamic. This is just a small example of what he can do (not that we don't know this). He's got a few more TDs on better placed passes too. 

 

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It seems that way for quite a few.

Nick was never hired to be an innovative architect in offensive play design; he was hired as a motivator, teacher, and to manage the locker room.  People seem to think the Reids, Shanahans and McVays grow on trees.  

Lol Nick isn't the scapegoat but he's the only piece that hadn't been replaced besides Howie

So if they suck again then...

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Lol Nick isn't the scapegoat but he's the only piece that hadn't been replaced besides Howie

So if they suck again then...

So, the Eagles win 26 games in a 31-game stretch and reach the Super Bowl = all the players

And, the Eagles lose 6 of 7 to end last season = all the head coach

 

Sounds a bit "scapegoat-ish" to me.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What's exciting about DeVonta Smith is I don't think we've come close to seeing him reach his potential. He's been the victim of terrible play calling for his skill set. Put him in motion and use him like Puka in LA and he's going to light up the league. Give him room to work. He's dynamic. This is just a small example of what he can do (not that we don't know this). He's got a few more TDs on better placed passes too. 

 

lol. 2 good balls. bunch of hospital balls and underthrows. 

Smith is really good. I honestly dont think many eagles fans realize how good he is. There is so much more he is capable of that we just dont get to see.