Trade AJ Bown in the draft. What could we get? 

15 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Better than Bowers?

Bowers doesn’t excite me…i think he is a good prospect, but not generational.  He’s was part of a stacked O in Georgia for a few years and was never the focus of the O.  He’s got decent size and athleticism, but he’s got a limited catch radius, is soft on traditional TE middle of the field routes, and is not the best at sustaining blocks.  His upside is Zach Ertz IMO…which is not a bad thing, but his profile isn’t this Uber athlete.  He looks like a dad.

4 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

Trade AJ Bown in the draft. What could we get? 

2 1s from BUF based on their WR need and possibly all-in approach this season (this is ballpark to what we paid, assuming the Bills are decent this year).

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

2 1s from BUF based on their WR need and possibly all-in approach this season (this is ballpark to what we paid, assuming the Bills are decent this year).

Do you believe we could trade him for a pick high enough to get Odunze?  Jets at 10 maybe, or Bears at 9

12 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Do you believe we could trade him for a pick high enough to get Odunze?  Jets at 10 maybe, or Bears at 9

Jets maybe as they are making a push with Rodg, which might get us our choice of OL outside of Alt (I think Odunze goes top-9). This would cost us at least a 2, and you’re looking at Brian Thomas very seriously at 22 (if he makes it there).

17 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Bowers doesn’t excite me…i think he is a good prospect, but not generational.  He’s was part of a stacked O in Georgia for a few years and was never the focus of the O.  He’s got decent size and athleticism, but he’s got a limited catch radius, is soft on traditional TE middle of the field routes, and is not the best at sustaining blocks.  His upside is Zach Ertz IMO…which is not a bad thing, but his profile isn’t this Uber athlete.  He looks like a dad.

He looks special to me.

49 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

You can run the same tradeup idea with Kingsley/Kool-aid. I’m confident that we won’t get shutout of good OL/CB prospect at 22.

This is sort of how I see it.  A good OT or CB should be available if they stayed put at 22.  They should only move up if they feel their top pick has fallen in the draft a bit

16 minutes ago, McMVP said:

This is sort of how I see it.  A good OT or CB should be available if they stayed put at 22.  They should only move up if they feel their top pick has fallen in the draft a bit

Hmmm… Mims, Dejean.
 

 

I never wanted to trade AJ whatsoever but thinking about getting the Pats #3 then flipping that to the highest bidder for the 3rd QB, I think you would have to pull that trigger. But I'm not trading him to the Bills for a 1st or some other type of similar deal. But getting to #3 and then trying to cut a deal, specifically with the Broncos that would include Surtain and a 1st next year plus other picks, that would be some next level thinking/trading. 

18 minutes ago, McMVP said:

This is sort of how I see it.  A good OT or CB should be available if they stayed put at 22.  They should only move up if they feel their top pick has fallen in the draft a bit

Personally, I'm not taking Kingsley at 22. That seems a bit rich to me.He should be there when round 2 kicks off. I also don't view Kool-Aid and DeJean in the same vein. I love DeJEan as the smart, instinctive, sound safety Vic will covet for his defense. Kool-Aid is a strict outside CB. If we land DeJean I still want a CB prospect or one via trade. I'd take both though that's probably not possible. 

15 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Personally, I'm not taking Kingsley at 22. That seems a bit rich to me.He should be there when round 2 kicks off. I also don't view Kool-Aid and DeJean in the same vein. I love DeJEan as the smart, instinctive, sound safety Vic will covet for his defense. Kool-Aid is a strict outside CB. If we land DeJean I still want a CB prospect or one via trade. I'd take both though that's probably not possible. 

I don't think DeJean will be a safety.  He will at least begin his career at CB. Likely nickel CB, and will be a star there. 

46 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He looks special to me.

lol what kind of special?  I think he’s a very good prospect…but not generational is my thing.  I think he’ll be productive and stick around the league for a long time.  IDK that I’d take a TE in the 1st in this draft.  I need to dig into some of the others deeper.  I haven’t been super into watching a lot of the players into this draft overall this year due to retirement and starting the business.

16 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Personally, I'm not taking Kingsley at 22. That seems a bit rich to me.He should be there when round 2 kicks off. I also don't view Kool-Aid and DeJean in the same vein. I love DeJEan as the smart, instinctive, sound safety Vic will covet for his defense. Kool-Aid is a strict outside CB. If we land DeJean I still want a CB prospect or one via trade. I'd take both though that's probably not possible. 

I’ve been out of the day-to-day draft news, but I heard Kool-aid has a "Jones” fracture of his pinky toe. I read it is due to overtraining, but is this a chronic condition?

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

 

I just did my first draft simulator and turned down every trade that I thought was a ridiculous overpay (you can get so many 2025 second round picks with small trade downs in the PFN simulator. Anyway, we picked a lot of the same guys. 

4 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

lol what kind of special?  I think he’s a very good prospect…but not generational is my thing.  I think he’ll be productive and stick around the league for a long time.  IDK that I’d take a TE in the 1st in this draft.  I need to dig into some of the others deeper.  I haven’t been super into watching a lot of the players into this draft overall this year due to retirement and starting the business.

I figure after the success that Sam LaPorta had last year teams will be back in on TEs that can bring that comparison. I wouldn’t take Bowers top-10 as I’d rather have a WR, 10-15 sure. I really don’t think he is a factor for us as he’ll be gone (other than pushing down OL/CBs).

 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I just did my first draft simulator and turned down every trade that I thought was a ridiculous overpay (you can get so many 2025 second round picks with small trade downs in the PFN simulator. Anyway, we picked a lot of the same guys. 

I totally expect Howie to do a trade up in the 1st (to 15, 16?) as they’ll have a favorite amongst the OL prospects and tradeback with the remaining 2 to get more capital (which will probably be frustrating at the time).

 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

 

He doesn’t seem to understand how the draft works.

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He doesn’t seem to understand how the draft works.

He wouldn’t be the first player to do it. 

19 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I figure after the success that Sam LaPorta had last year teams will be back in on TEs that can bring that comparison. I wouldn’t take Bowers top-10 as I’d rather have a WR, 10-15 sure. I really don’t think he is a factor for us as he’ll be gone (other than pushing down OL/CBs).

 

Sinnott is LaPorta

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Sinnott is LaPorta

Then he is in the mix for us in the 2nd.

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

He wouldn’t be the first player to do it. 

Sure - he also might be QB4 in this draft.

10 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Then he is in the mix for us in the 2nd.

Yes might be. Based on websites he's more of a 3rd but I wouldn't be shocked if he is the 2nd TE drafted. 

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yes might be. Based on websites he's more of a 3rd but I wouldn't be shocked if he is the 2nd TE drafted. 

It’s worth acknowledging that given Goedert’s age, injury history and Howie’s willingness to get a guy in the building ahead of time that TE might be as much of perceived need as WR.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

2 1s from BUF based on their WR need and possibly all-in approach this season (this is ballpark to what we paid, assuming the Bills are decent this year).

 

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Do you believe we could trade him for a pick high enough to get Odunze?  Jets at 10 maybe, or Bears at 9

I truly hope you two are joking. Be lucky if we could get a 2nd round pick/late first. That is if we are lucky. Plus a hefty cap hit. Brown is not going anywhere so not worth a discussion of his value in a trade which isnt even close to what you are suggesting.