8 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Maybe one of the streaming services should offer a paid service for an announcer free view of the game. I'd pay for that.

 

Late to the party but MLB TV does this and it's amazing 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s a RB though. You can find 3rd options as UDFA’s. If they want to spend a Day 3 pick on one it’s not the end of the world but it would be a waste of resources to get one sooner. 

You can, but I hate to always rely on UDFA for positions they don't seem to value. If he's there in the 4th or 5th, I'm OK with that investment. I really hope Howie can turn their late round picks in to mid-round picks.

35 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Safeties with elite athleticism, and ball production are extremely rare. When that comes around, it goes top 20. I dont think he will be a safety though. I think he will be a CB. I think he will have value because he can play outside. But I think a smart team will play him in nickel to take advantage of his skillset. 

You dont really see nickel CBs with outside CB size and athleticism come around. As well as his production. Its again, a rare package. 

I dont value any nickel CB in round 1. But I value DeJean as a top 20 player. And I dont know if he is the best pure CB in this class, but hes he CB I want most because he is the biggest game changer.

Hes a transformational piece for a defense. 

Sydney Brown was literally more athletic and more productive than DeJean.

DeJean’s value is in his versatility, but that’s a blessing and a curse when it comes to his draft projection. If he was a pure boundary corner, then no doubt he would go top 20. But he’s not.

So then a team has to decide what his role is. Slot corner seems about right. You get him in coverage and get him around the ball more. And yes, his size and ability to matchup with bigger receivers and play the run are a big advantage over a run of the mill slot receiver.

But I don’t think he’s a lock for the top 20 at all. I see him going in the 20-30 range, because realistically teams are most likely to view him as a safety-nickel hybrid. In 5 DB personnel, you get a guy who can matchup in a lot of situations, which is useful.

I like him a lot as a player, so this isn’t a slight on him, just a realistic projection of his draft position.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Safeties with elite athleticism, and ball production are extremely rare. When that comes around, it goes top 20. I dont think he will be a safety though. I think he will be a CB. I think he will have value because he can play outside. But I think a smart team will play him in nickel to take advantage of his skillset. 

You dont really see nickel CBs with outside CB size and athleticism come around. As well as his production. Its again, a rare package. 

I dont value any nickel CB in round 1. But I value DeJean as a top 20 player. And I dont know if he is the best pure CB in this class, but hes he CB I want most because he is the biggest game changer.

Hes a transformational piece for a defense. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

Didnt realize crumble cookies made it out to east coast.

They started in Utah.

Good cookies!

Just eat a stick of butter

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ive really been enjoying these videos on each position over the last 2 days. Planning to watch them all. I love this guys rankings. Even if they arent exactly the same as mine, he and I seem to see the players exactly the same on evaluations. For example, he has Cooper as LB1 which I dont agree with. But his analysis is that he is asked to do next to nothing in coverage, and is basically just a spy player. Spot on.

This one is for you @just relax. The OL episode. Tons of prospects covered.

Id highly recommend these videos for anyone. Especially if you have had little time to study players yourself. This guy will run you through almost the entire class pretty quickly.

 

He likes Latham as much as I do.  From what I’ve watched he’s the second best OL in the draft behind Joe Alt.  Can’t imagine him still being on the board at #13 but if he is, Howie would have to give serious consideration to giving the Raiders a call.

8 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Just my personal opinion more than anything. Saquon doesn't have the best bill of health, isn't young and his contract is more or less a 2-year deal. Gainwell is a JAG backup. Would be nice to have a 3rd reliable option. 

Agreed. They need another RB. They grabbed the guy from San Fran but he could use some competition. Likely Gainwell's last year here as well.

8 hours ago, TEW said:

Sydney Brown was literally more athletic and more productive than DeJean.

DeJean’s value is in his versatility, but that’s a blessing and a curse when it comes to his draft projection. If he was a pure boundary corner, then no doubt he would go top 20. But he’s not.

So then a team has to decide what his role is. Slot corner seems about right. You get him in coverage and get him around the ball more. And yes, his size and ability to matchup with bigger receivers and play the run are a big advantage over a run of the mill slot receiver.

But I don’t think he’s a lock for the top 20 at all. I see him going in the 20-30 range, because realistically teams are most likely to view him as a safety-nickel hybrid. In 5 DB personnel, you get a guy who can matchup in a lot of situations, which is useful.

I like him a lot as a player, so this isn’t a slight on him, just a realistic projection of his draft position.

He can definitely be a boundary corner. That's what he played in college. 

Hey we aren't the only ones thinking of scenarios. At least we are trying to be realistic about what we think would happen.

 

31 minutes ago, judunno said:

Agreed. They need another RB. They grabbed the guy from San Fran but he could use some competition. Likely Gainwell's last year here as well.

I like Wright from Tenn

but i really dont feel like we know what Moore wants in an RB. Will barkley be his zeke here? If so maybe a complimemtary back similar to what he had in Dallas? Just not sure

8 hours ago, bpac55 said:

You can, but I hate to always rely on UDFA for positions they don't seem to value. If he's there in the 4th or 5th, I'm OK with that investment. I really hope Howie can turn their late round picks in to mid-round picks.

I have wanted Braelon Allen for a while. I can't figure out why he's not more highly thought of 

9 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Maybe it was the UM Spring Game that has my attention today but Mike Sainristil is another player I'd really be interested in. He was brought up a few days ago. I think he'd be a terrific Swiss Army Knife type of player in the secondary.  

It’s hard not to watch that team last year and fall in love with a lot of players…the issue is who is the McDougle of the group and can you avoid drafting them?

41 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

I have wanted Braelon Allen for a while. I can't figure out why he's not more highly thought of 

slow and not elusive.

10 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

3 mins isn’t enough to know for he series especially when it was i believe without Embiid on the floor. Everyone was awful with Embiid off the floor.

That’s fine but you’re gonna need someone to take on some of lowry’s mins. He’s not playing 38 mins consistently and being the same player he was in game 1. Cam Payne, hield or whomever you want is going to have too. 38 year old Lowry isn’t playing 38 mins a night and not seeing some sort of decline as the series moves along (and future series if they win). His 18 points is likely more of an outlier. If he could do that frequently then he wouldn’t have been on the buyout market. Frankly he gave you 3rd option type of production while Harris, batum, hield gave you a combined 10 points. 

Of those 3... Hield is the most disappointing.  Batum is what he is... he is steady and some nights will go off with a few threes like Wednesday night, but he's not here to score.  Harris can never be depended upon.  He's a waste of a max contract and has been since the moment he got here.  Awful decision to trade for him back in the day... worse decision to stick with him.  Hield needs to produce 10 points a game by himself.  11 minutes isn't enough from him, and 0 points is completely unacceptable... which is why he only got 11 minutes.  He has to eat up some minutes for Lowry over Payne, even though he's not a PG, when he's out there with Maxey, he doesn't need to be.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

slow and not elusive.

Yeah that's definitely not accurate

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Hey we aren't the only ones thinking of scenarios. At least we are trying to be realistic about what we think would happen.

 

Who is Brian Barnwell?  And what drugs is he on?  #5 overall for Aiyuk?     Wow.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Hey we aren't the only ones thinking of scenarios. At least we are trying to be realistic about what we think would happen.

 

Insane….this comment was very appropriate 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who is Brian Barnwell?  And what drugs is he on?  #5 overall for Aiyuk?     Wow.

 

2 minutes ago, McMVP said:

Insane….this comment was very appropriate 

I guess that answers my question.  

52 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

I have wanted Braelon Allen for a while. I can't figure out why he's not more highly thought of 

What's amazing about Allen is that I believe he just turned 20 in January. He was banged up a bit this year and while he put up tremendous numbers, he's not overly athletic. He reminds me of James Connor, which isn't a bad thing at all.

14 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Yeah that's definitely not accurate

lol

Some worrying things about mid round RBs

Allen has 9 career fumbles.

Lloyd has 8 career fumbles. 

I think both of them had 3 last year.

Blake Corum was not as good this year as he was last year. Seemed worse in the 2nd half of the year. Hes already 23 years old and is a smaller back with a physical style. He also struggled with ball security in the 2nd half of the season.

 

 

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

He's smaller but not a smaller style imo. To me smaller style is scat back,  quick, usually good pass catching back. 

Corum is a big style back in a shorter body. 

I didn’t have much interest in Corum prior to signing Barkley because I wanted a lead back. I’m in on Corum as a backup though. 

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

I like Wright from Tenn

but i really dont feel like we know what Moore wants in an RB. Will barkley be his zeke here? If so maybe a complimemtary back similar to what he had in Dallas? Just not sure

Wright is a tough one. He had the most advantageous runways in college football due to light boxes. I have no feel for how he can navigate against real defensive alignments. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I didn’t have much interest in Corum prior to signing Barkley because I wanted a lead back. I’m in on Corum as a backup though. 

yeah. He would be alright. Theres a big group of guys who would be alright.

Id prefer to have someone like Shipley, Wright or Lloyd.

And if we are just going for some power, I might prefer to wait even later than Corum and get McClellan, Milton, Dillon Johnson. Those guys would be alright too.

Seen some draft guys suggest him as a future nickel. He looks fun, the kind of guy the Niners draft and turns into a really good player.